Why aren't you a libertarian? It's the political philosophy for rational and responsible adults

Why aren't you a libertarian? It's the political philosophy for rational and responsible adults.

Other urls found in this thread:

liveactionnews.org/life-begins-at-conception-science-teaches/
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Open borders.

i don't suffer from autism

It's potentially bad for me if my neighbor has a fully auto and an empty wallet

Don't like Sup Forums OP? Don't post here.

Libertarianism is just a meme that got taken to seriously

While I agree with a lot of the ideas associated with libertarians, I don't waste my time with labels. Too much extra baggage comes with wearing a label.

I'm not a libertarian, but I identify with them more than any other political party at this point. I'm a small government conservative who would've voted Rand if he got the nom.

I'm also socially liberal so it's a mixed bag.

>I can't take being meme'd on by nu Sup Forums teenagers

Because I understand that not everyone's a rational and responsible adult.

>Don't like slavery? Don't own slaves.

But I already am.

GOVERNMENT SHOULDNT REGULATE ANY OF THAT YOU FUCKING FLAMING FAGGOT

FUCK OFF

NO ONE CARES

STOP SHOVING FAGGOTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN OUR FACE

People don't look past stereotypes. I save the time by refusing to be grouped with them.

I agree with all of that except abortion.

I will not stand by and allow other people's rights to life get snuffed out by selfish retards. The government's sole responsibility is to protect the rights of it's people, that includes the right to life.

The right to life cannot (unless the mother's life is threatened as well) be negotiated with. Whether someone was just stupid and had unprotected sex, or if someone was raped, neither justifies the theft of someone else's rights.

Libertarianism only works if your community is already made up of civilized people. Liberty without self- restraint drives itself to extinction.

We can't have libertarian principles and have a community with muslims or blacks or Mexicans in it because these people are quite literally incapable of living without big brother's guiding hand.

Fair enough.

>Don't like abortions? Don't have one.

Don't like murder? Don't get killed.

>It's the political philosophy for rational and responsible adults.

Because reality

Or don't kill, but I agree, that reasoning on abortion is flawed; none of the other issues presented in the photo actually kill someone.

>You just took that person's rights away.

Hmm really makes you think...

I am Libertarian but it feels lonely when you live in a Socialist hellhole called Latin America.

>these people are quite literally incapable of living without big brother's guiding hand
Doesn't that make libertarianism preferable because it doesn't enable their behavior?

Islam is a libertarian ideology, user

>no central authority

> Don't like black people?
> Legally discriminate against them!

LOLBERTIANS ARE ABOUT AS SHITTY AS COMMUNISTS, NO RESPECT FOR LOLBERTIANS

>Don't like murder? Don't murder people.

Just because you call something a right doesn't mean it is.

And Chile actually is one of the least hellish socialist hellholes in Latin America, isn't it?

Everything listed are actual rights. You and every other retard in here posting like you are just strawmanning.

>>person
Slaves aren't people they are property.

Because I like having roads, a police, closed boarders, and the ability to have a job that doesn't treat me like a piece of shit.

Because I am not an edgy teenager anymore.

>Don't like pedophilia? Don't have sex with kids.
>Don't like incest? Don't have sex with your mom.
>Don't like bestiality? Move out of Canada.

The Libertarian party has been compromised, bought, and paid for. Bill Weld was the seal on the mortgage when they sold their soul.

It’s sad, as the Libertarian party used to sorta be a place of last resort for people disgusted with both parties. Now, it’s just a compromised puppet shilling for:

>Open borders
>Gun control
>Bad trade deals, like TPP

I never thought I’d see that day, but it happened.

>Everything listed are actual rights

What guiding principle are you using when you say that?

>Think abortion is literal murder? Deal with it!

Don't like being murdered? Don't live in a libertarian society.

Reality, that thing outside your parent's basement.

What if I don't like sandniggers flooding my country?

The NAP breaks down against organized aggression.

If a man is trying to rob you then you can shoot him.

If 20 men are trying to rob you, you get robbed.

If100,000 men are storming into your country as an organized force, an unorganized force of 100,000 men will fail to stop them.

Chile's current president openly praises the DDR and is a hardcore socialist that boosted taxes, strengthened worker unions and boosted the fiscal deficit.

Chile is becoming a shithole and in few years will be the next Argentina.

Every single one of those fucking things, people like because they are forced into it either by peer pressure, parenting or education. You'd have to be retarded to think individual responsibility exists.
If the fruit is bad, throw it away; if every fruit is bad, cut down the tree. When one community statistically has more suicides, that's not an "individual choice". we're altruistic and collectivist animals; one thing affects another thing. Besides, libertarianism is LITERALLY classical leftist ideology.

> Don't like liberty? Don't follow the laws.

Slaves have to be enslaved at some point by another human being. Effectively, you are taking away another person's rights.

Even if someone is born by a slave, making them a slave, rights would have been taken away at some point.

Funny how quickly one devolves into ad hominem arguments while claiming the intellectual high ground.

Libertarians are children who don't understand that their actions effect others besides themselves

I was. No longer because Libertarianism doesn't survive when strict border control and cultural chauvinism/racism isn't enforced - both of which are, of course, deeply unlibertarian.

>effect

>m-m-muh dead bebies! muh dead bebies!

Get a grip, you fucking spastics.

Loose gun laws can get me killed, gay marriage cannot.

I have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happyness. You do not have the right to own an AR-15 and 20,000 rounds of HP ammo.

I wouldn't be surprised if the libertarians were the oldest people on this board and that most of the Alt-right neo-reactionary types are teenagers and burn out neckbeards.

Libertarian is an older man ideology, Sup Forums's current hivemind is immature as fuck compared to when this board was primarily libertarians.

>You do not have the right to own an AR-15 and 20,000 rounds of HP ammo.

I do, actually, as explained in the constitution itself.

Don't like child rape ? Don't do it.

Such a compelling argument you have made.

Here's an article which argues that a fetus is a person deemed worthy of rights guaranteed by the constitution.

I have investigated the sources as well and it comes out clean. Unless you can establish another line besides conception that would be logically and scientifically consistent for the beginning of life, you can kindly fuck off.

liveactionnews.org/life-begins-at-conception-science-teaches/

>it's an ignorant Sup Forumssmokers equate libertarianism with anarchism episode

Oh I'm sorry, since when do I have to justify why I want to own material goods? Last time I checked, I'm not going to go and try to kill you with my AR-15. So kindly fuck off.

>rights

There are finite resources.
In capitalism you can own resources privately.
This is a human convention.
We can imagine a different convention.
You must prove that one way of managing property is superior to the other.

It is one of the worlds greatest mysteries why all adolescent males go through a phase of thinking libertarianism is derived straight from pure logic.

Unless free-market systems benefit the ruling class and are constantly pushed by media and society... Impossible right? Capitalism is dissident!!

By supporting abortion arent you infringing that lil nigga's right to life?

Hey, whatever makes you feel better about your autism senpai

>when this board was primarily libertarians.
Le ebin this board never had large amounts of fascists, nazis, etc maymay. Lol okie-dokie, i believe you oldfag

>libertarianism

Fuck outta here

Oh please Great Pinochet do your thing again!

Libertarianism is just another word for anarchy. Only a punkass american could fall for that kind of meme.

It's the rule of law or the rule of fist, there are no inbetweens.

Already explained that I'm not a libertarian, but fantastic attempt.

There were Nazi admiring libertarians, but most of this board were not actual fascists for the first year and a half or so of Sup Forums's existence

I have no tolerance toward degenerates

Jesus Christ! It's like you retards forget about /new/

> most of this board were not actual fascists
Source? Oh that's right you're le ebin oldfag who completely forgets /new/ existed. I should know better than to not take your word for it, silly me

Rule of law is rule of fist. The question is how much influence you have on the people throwing the punches.

Yes, but left to their own devices these people will create a tyrant to rule them, and that tyrant will also try and assert authority over us.

and that tyrant shall be the dictatorship of the proletariat!

Sup Forums isn't /new/. When I talk about Sup Forums, I'm not talking about /new/. Sup Forums for it's first year and a half was mostly libertarians, then gamergate attracted tons of fascist teenagers from Sup Forums

>Don't like rape? Don't rape.
>Don't like terrorism? Don't participate in it.

Great logic. Libertarianism is only for edgelord who have problems with their parents, causing them to have problems with authority.

If you don't like second hand smoke, don't breath.

>then gamergate attracted tons of fascist
>then
Holy kek! Just stop talking, you fool

Don't like your privacy being invaded? Don't have it!

I used to be a libertarian, now I'm a national socialist. I hate this mindset of "lol it doesn't affect you so fuck off".

If you don't like capitalism, starve to death!
If you don't like nukes, don't get nuked!
If you don't like theft, don't get mugged!


I don't like your libertarianism, OP

The American characterization of rights is unique, and this attempt to make everything a right is really a sneak attack, turning inalenable rights into privileges.

This really baffles me. This argument is used all the time by liberals against conservative and the Natsocialists were literally socialists, yet all the people like you have even patriotic liberalism and socialism.

>and the Natsocialists were literally socialists

wut

>don't like homosexuals, don't bake a cake for th-
oh wait

What is stopping the barbarians at the gates from taking over your cute little libertarian society and your women? Nothing. That is why, for all of human history, humans have stuck together in tribes/countries. Any groups of people that try to change that will simply die out or be defeated.

xz boring. Death is Justice

Yeah, open borders, but also no welfare state. Also, nobody businesses would be free not to hire anyone without certain guarantees of integration, such as language requierments. So if migrants can't get free shit from the state and can't work for an income - how are they gone survive? Why would they come?

mfw youre me and now i dont have any friends who will talk to me about it but i dont care

Why don't you libertarians like idea of private government (i.e. absolute monarchy)?

I'm a pro-life Libertarian who is voting for Trump. We either have a country or we don't.

The only reason open borders is an issue is because of people coming to feed off the welfare state

Yes user, National Socialists were a form of white nationalist socialists. The 25 points plan was socialism through and through. Hitler didn't get full employment through capitalism buddy.

Lol you know murder is still illegal right?

Don't like babymurder? Don't murder babies or be a baby
Don't like rape? Don't rape or be raped
Don't like theft? Don't steal, lock your shit

>pro-life
>libertarian

kek, see this pic related

no, he got it through central state planning maintained by fanatical racism and an almost religious nationalism.

AKA fascism

Central state planning is state socialism. Fascism and socialism are not mutually exclusive.

Libertarianism is about the rule of the law. This just demonstrates that you don't have a clue about what you're talking about. But I understand, since sadly opinions everywhere today are based on memes.

Yes, you are correct going by the definitions of each term. But I still think it is prudent to seperate the two due to the huge differences between Nazism and the more popular strains of socialism, for example, egalitarianism and an emphasis on worker control. State socialism is mainly a failure of the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is doomed to fail every time.

Really the only difference is that National Socialism was based on Germanic nationalism. Hitler constantly talked about the worker and their rights.

worker control, not rights. The state controlling the workplace in a military dictatorship does not give the worker's any direct management over the means of production.

Keep in mind they were at war, Hitler was running his own version of "war communism"

They weren't at war for the first half of their rule. user, the 25 points plan is socialism. There is no getting around this, the National Socialists were socialists.

I know this, see

I'm glad to see you agree with me now when you were incredulous before. It's a form of socialism.

>A sizable contingent would assert that life begins at 25 weeks. The rationale for this starting point is based on our definition of death. The definition of death is not disputed, and is considered the time when electroencephalography (EEG) activity ceases. EEG measures brain activity and must demonstrate regular wave patterns to be considered valid. Therefore, by this rule the onset of life would be the time when fetal brain activity begins to exhibit regular wave patterns, which occurs fairly consistently around week 25. Previous to that time, the EEG only shows small bursts of activity without sustained firing of neurons.
brainblogger()com/2009/05/10/medical-controversy-when-does-life-begin/

Go away.

Then get a fully auto and the playing field will be level.

Fuck, you liberals are such pussies.