Why is Palpatine considered one of, if not THE most powerful sith ever...

Why is Palpatine considered one of, if not THE most powerful sith ever? The only reason he succeeded was because he was a dick ass thief, playing mind games and manipulating people. He rarely fought anyone and the times that he did actually duel someone, he didn't show to have that much power.

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literally no one thinks that.

He had shitloads of power, but he learned how to hide it at a young age so that people couldn't tell he was force sensitive.

Because he can see the future and shit and manipulate everything with the force.

Windu would have beat him if he wasn't backstabbed by Anakin. And he couldn't kill Yoda.

That is 2 jedis we know of he couldn't beat.

Not to mention in RotJ, a handless Anakin/Vader simply picks him up and throws him into a pit. KEK

He cast Force Confusion on the entire Jedi council for more than a decade, also he could spin which is a pretty good trick.

>ass thief

He let windu beat him because he knew anakin would come along and save him

>Not to mention in RotJ
wasn't he like 100 years old at that point?

He has UNLIMITED POWER!!!
Do you even KNOW what UNLIMITED POWER means?? There's NO limit to his power. ABSOLUTELY NO LIMIT WHATSOEVER. He has more power than ALL OTHER FORCE USERS COMBINED. Sheev alone can destroy entire galaxies if he wants to. He just had the death star made because he was bored. The death star has limited power. That means there's a limit to its power and destruction capabilities. But SHEEV does not have this limitation. His power has NO CEILING. It just keeps rising on and on like there's no tomorrow. UNLIMITED POWER!!!

He was shown walking with a cane when he arrived on the DSII.

>Why is Palpatine considered one of, if not THE most powerful sith ever?

Because he commanded more political influence and more power with the force than any Sith Lord who ever lived.

He had sole rule over 97% of the known galaxy, which none of his predecessors accomplished. And he lived in a time where there was so much pain, suffering and death throughout the galaxy directly because of his machinations that he had the largest well of the Dark Side to draw power from.

> the times that he did actually duel someone, he didn't show to have that much power.

Arrogance and bravado induced by the Dark Side. With his fights against the likes of Darth Maul and or against the Jedi council, he could've just killed them without even moving. But instead he gave into his fits of Dark Side autism. It worked out for him against Maul and most of the Council, but backfired when Mace Windu proved to actually be a better swordsman.

Because he put all of his energy into predicting the future and preparing the galaxy for invasion by uniting everyone against a common enemy. He really was a good friend.

>he didn't show to have that much power.
He was the most powerful individual that the galaxy had ever seen.

> but backfired when Mace Windu proved to actually be a better swordsman.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Mace was nothing but a little, harmless maggot to Sheev. Have you forgotten how easily he took out the other Jedi, who were some of the best in the order? Sheev kept Windu alive to turn Anakin to the dark side.

He was 86.

Sheev lost to Windu on purpose

Yoda also uses a cane, which makes it more retarded that he flips around with a lightsaber. The force is supposed to be beyond the physical. Neither Yoda nor Sheev should have ever used a lightsaber

>I-I was merely pretending

That's a trope, like "Elderly Wuxia swordsman hobbling around, but cranks it to 11 when he draws his sword."

Don't measure the Emperor by how good a swordfighter he is...

It wasn't in the originals though. Both Yoda and Sheev got to display how powerful they were with the force without resorting to physical combat. The prequels just shat all over that. imagine how much better a pure magic duel between Sheev and Yoda would have been

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educate yourself

I fucking hate Star Wars

>dark side autism

My fucking sides

>Did you ever hear the tragedy of darth off-by-one the wise?

>He could save others from dubs... but not himself.

>Mace was nothing but a little, harmless maggot to Sheev
In terms of power with the Force? Yeah.
>Have you forgotten how easily he took out the other Jedi
Nope.
>who were some of the best in the order
In the top 20, but were not near Windu's level, who was the best in the order of the time.
>Sheev kept Windu alive to turn Anakin to the dark side.
Not really. Sheev lost and got extremely lucky that Anakin arrived.

Being intelligent and cunning enough to become the guy in charge of EVERYTHING isn't powerful enough for you?

it was like 85% pure luck, 10% Jedi incompetence and 5% manipulation

And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

The dark side is called the easier path but playing political mindgames for decades doesn't seem like an easy thing to do.

Yoda is such a dismissive NEET prick living in a hut on Dagobah, what does he know about success?

>Why is Palpatine considered one of, if not THE most powerful sith ever?

He's not by the standards of the ancient Sith.

But he could do some cool shit in the old EU. Like force Mara Jade to want to kill Luke, and she'd still have that need decades later.

Also the Sith had been in hiding, and just focusing on studying the Force for all that time. He knew things Yoda could never dream of.

>The only reason he succeeded was because he was a dick ass thief, playing mind games and manipulating people.

It worked.

>He rarely fought anyone and the times that he did actually duel someone, he didn't show to have that much power.

He beat three three Jedi masters. At the same time. It's still a debate as if he let Windu win on purpose to manipulate Anakin. He clearly beat Yoda as well.

Why didn't the Republic outlaw using the Force if it makes you a psychopath 100% of the time unless you're a celibate monk for your entire life (and even that's not a guarantee)?

He literally was dumbass. He needed Anakin to make a choice. As soon as Anakin attacks he immediately does a massive lightning attack and kills Windu.

who's going to stop you?

Clones, apparently. Order 66 their asses.

Shit, maybe Sheev was a good guy all along. Or necessary evil, the least.

Go watch ROTS again, the moment Anakin cuts off Windu's arm Sheev smiles and unleashes his true powah. He was keeping it at bay because he needed Anakin to make a choice, and if Windu looked like the baddie when Anakin arrived Sheev could get him on side.

Because the jedi council had a huge lobby in the republic.

>maybe Sheev was a good guy all along
he was
there were hundreds, if not thousands of Jedi
there were only a handful of Sith

The only way to bring balance to the force was to slaughter the Jedi

Was burning his own face off part of the plan?

He literally tricked the smartest people in the galaxy into giving him more power and letting him maintain control for years, all while conducting a war from both sides while not getting caught until the final step of his plan was ready to be executed.

Thats just the dark side taking its toll on the body.

Yellow/red eyes and shit skin due to prolonged exposure. The lighting just revealed his true face.

He was super old in ROTJ and had no idea Vader would have the courage to stand up to him after years of being his slave.
Like Luke said, overconfidence was his weakness despite being incredibly intelligent and successful over the years.

>tfw could have gotten something like Dumbledore vs Voldemort in Order of the Phoenix but got the same shitty lightsaber duels we got used to
That part with Sheev destroying the senate hall was pretty neat though.

Was it worth becoming Emperor of the galaxy if he couldn't get laid anymore due to the dark side frying his face and balls?

Twi'lek slaves don't care

>being the despot of an entire galaxy with infinite wealth, power and also being able to do mind control
>not getting pussy

He has a fleshlight with a tiny toy green lightsaber attached to it

Oola Farta
That's what I read as the image name. Sup Forums fucks with your soul.

Did he mistake Yoda for his fleshlight when he called him his "little green friend"?

>tfw will never have even a nano-fraction of a fraction of Sheev's power
Feels bad man

> Muh balance

I never got this prophecy at all. What did the jedi think 'balance' meant for the force? Theres thousands on one side and two on the other. Either the prophecy meant a massive reduction or a huge influx of sith.

And another thing. Why does every force user go genocidal or monk? Surely there are some dark jedi who don't give a shit about conquering the known universe and just use their powers to cheat at pazaak or commit daring bank robberies.

I understand its meant to be addictive dark power. but i refuse to believe its so personality eroding it turns everyone insane in the exact same way. Some people just don't value political power over say... financial power (board room meetings = way easier with mind control).

Or maybe there are. Maybe every time the sith and the jedi go to war over the galaxy the third group - lets call them the Sensible Side - double face palm that theyre making things harder for the SS to hide from the muggles.

Maybe the Jedi AND the Sith are just regarded as flashy, irritating, over-the-top retards that ruin things for everyone who just wants to use their mind powers to live in quiet drunken decadence on LasVegas-Planet.

I like this idea. That the Jedi are seen in the same way as people who like guns view those people who insist on walking around in everyday life with their rifles open-carried.

The EU had a bunch of dark jedi who just used their powers for personal gain

I'm glad to hear this. Because that sounds hilarious.

I should get into the EU sometime. Being declared 'non-canon' by the actual owners of star wars can only mean it's way better written than most of star wars.

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Balance to the jedi was just absense of darkness. The dark side and bu extension its users corrupt and twist the force making it unbalanced. Or something.

Some of it's pretty good although there's a lot of autistic shit like Luuke and Bigger Luuke among other things.
EU comics are pretty cool.

The EU is inconsistent in the way it treats the force and pretty much all lore.

There should be a list out there of the 10 good books in the pile of teash that is the EU

What if the dark side is imbalance?

Dindu was shit compared to Sheev's true powers

>two guys compared to thousands of jedi
Nah

The darkside itself is the imbalace. The number is irrelevant.

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>Go watch ROTS again
Rewatched the scene. Still 100% luck that Anakin showed up.
>He was keeping it at bay because he needed Anakin to make a choice
He was keeping it at bay because he got full of himself and decided to fight with one hand behind his back against someone who could rightfully kick his ass because of said handicap.

>Why didn't the Republic outlaw using the Force if it makes you a psychopath 100% of the time

Because it doesn't. Using the Dark Side does. And even then, they're not always large in number. Just before and during the Clone War era, the most numerous force sensitive group aligned with the Dark Side was the Nightsisters. And they mostly kept to themselves.

>unless you're a celibate monk for your entire life (and even that's not a guarantee

The Jedi were not celibate. Their code forbade attachment. Recreational fucking wasn't a no-no.

>fanfiction

>What did the jedi think 'balance' meant for the force?

It's natural, non-tampered with state, which the Clone War and the Empire threw it out of.

>What if the dark side is imbalance?

It isn't. The Dark Side is created by pain, suffering and death. These things are natural parts of life. But when you have those things in excessive amounts all over the galaxy, it throws the Force out of balance because it creates a fuck-huge amount of the Dark Side.

Nothing in that post is fanfiction.

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Not according to the jedi.

Which movie had the Nightsisters in it? Must have missed it.

Thats mostly post rotj stuff
Clone wars and old republic eu,plus thrawn and the boba fett books were fucking goat

Jar Jar is the most powerful sith of all time

Jar Jar does not have UNLIMITED POWER

They were old eu that literally crawled back out of lucas's asshole to become real canon
Get over it fagmo
If u accept the ot and the prequels,tv clone wars is canon

>one of, if not THE most powerful sith ever

am i the only one who was expecting the evian bottle pasta here?

disappoint.

Heh. Whatever nerd, go back to your comic book store in the Simpsons.

The only purpose of the EU is damage control for all the plotholes and inconsistencies in the movies.

I know we're all having fun here, but the most powerful sith is actually the Bendu. The Bendu mastered both good and evil. The Bendu was an immensely powerful being who had the power to appear and disappear at will.[6] He control nature including the krykna spiders of Atollon.

>I'm the one in the middle. The Bendu.
-the Bendu

>reddit humour is underrated

Go back, dickhead

Based bendu!

They tell you he is powerful but never really show you.

>loses the Dindu
>loses to Yoda
>loses to Vader

Any duel he ever wins are due to guile and deceit. Han Solo basically does the same thing.

Kek

>loses to Yoda
He didn't though. He beat Yoda.
>loses to Vader
I wouldn't exactly call that a fight. Unless you call something comparable to a literal backstabbing a fight.

Ewoks: The Battle for Endor

Never heard of it. Did they also tried to ruin Life Day?

Good, good...

Why didn't he spin himself away from the pit that Vader threw him into?

Yes, it gave him sympathy from the senate

Why was that pit even there? It's not like the Oval Office in the White House or whatever the room is called in the Kremlin has a bottomless pit.

helps to amplify evilness

You can't be an evil space sorceror without a bottomless pit

>overconfidence was his weakness
Such a played out trope. Name me a single time in modern history someone lost because "muh overconfidence". Yet it happens all the time in media, so predictable.

>most powerful force user at the time can't even levitate himself so he doesn't die from getting tossed down a shaft like a slab of meat

this tbqhf

every time you ask a star wars question now it seems to just be full of EU bullshit

I thought so too

>The level of reasoning of a star wars fan

>you
Me?

WWII.
>Battle of England
>Operation Barbarossa
>Market Garden
And probably a shitton more.

Stormtroopers.