This is not good. Not good at all

This is not good. Not good at all.

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>hollywoodreporter.com

I didn't know there were 2 sites more emberassing than 4chin

> netherlands education
hollywood reporter and variety are the 2 biggest entertainment news trades, it's like the AP and reuters for that business

if they're reporting it, it's legit. wall street is worried, and part of the NFL's problem (isn't shit like kaepernick, what some dumb fags will say), it's the same problem facing the TV industry

cord-cutting, and younger people want on-demand shit, and don't want to devote time to something. simple as that

>P-p-please watch our sport, b-big strong Americ-cans

Yes, as legit as Hells Kitchen.

>It's raw you fucking donkey

>60 minute game
>lasts 4-5 hours
Can anyone defend this bullshit

BRAVO GOODELL

And to think, it would have taken just one of the 32 owners to prevent this.

No.

This.

I probably am an odd football fan. I came from southern California so I have no allegiance to a specific football team. I just want to watch good football, no matter who is playing. I also don't have cable, DirectTV or a dish; I rely on the Big Three networks and what they broadcast. And I've had a good time as a football fan— until this year.

The games have been terrible this year. I don't know whether it’s early in the season or whether it’s spectacularly bad luck in picking what games to broadcast. But there are occasional glimmers followed by large swaths of nothing. The broadcasters have rarely provided any compensation for a bad game. They honestly seem as bored as I am. To me, it's easy to compare the NFL corporate brand to the decline and fall of the Roman empire.

And, finally, every time the game stops with an injured player, I question whether I should even be watching from a moral perspective. Since there’s no compelling game to accompany the injuries, I’m finding that I’m turning off the TV to ease my conscience.

Last weekend, I painted the kitchen and applied shelf paper in the newly painted cupboards and drawers. Not because I had to, but because it truly sounded more interesting than the games. And that is really saying something.

I cut the cord in 2014. And am anticipating the death of television by 2020 or at least by 2025. The NFL a decade from now is dying a slow painful death, just like its players.

Confirmed for completely ignorant, or just unable to grasp the inconvenient truths of his statement.

Read the news, get educated, they have stories that tell you all, directly from them, you don't get to make up journalism unless you're qualified in itself.

Any piece of journalism comes via a concern from the public and is meant to satiate what comes directly from that, since the NFL is inevitably dying a slow painful death, and now banker Jews are in panic mode, there is an absolute dismantling of the system, and perhaps for the better.

Millennials are the future, boomers are dying out, and soon journalism won't be vehemently denied by antiquated minds such as yourself.

Kaepernick isn't the problem.

And if anything, yes, those offended by the greed that has prevented a man for exercising his First Amendment rights is an American way of tuning out overcorporatized garbage.

late game start times should be moved up

best part of a good game is the ending, but a lot of people can't stay up to 11:30 to watch that

california doesn't watch much football anyway

Actually the problem is more or less, having us Californians to wake up for the early time games.

And, in some weeks, whenever there is a game in London, most of us (whom represent the majority of this nation's media audience) are still asleep, last year I remember having to wake up too early to catch the Rams vs. Giants game.

Either get rid of the London games or reschedule them so everyone can see them.

Of course you don't microwave a salad you fucking doughnut

Did you even bother reading?

Are you sure you're as dumb as the neophytes who will come into this thread later, defending this late-stage soon to be moribund product?

I sure hope not.

Get rid of the fucking commercials.

There are a lot of ways to fix their ratings downfall:

- Eliminate TNF, or at least limit it to week 1 and Thanksgiving
- Make the rules that define a catch easier, takes less time for officials to determine it and the flow of the game improves
- Make MNF flex, with 3-4 weeks of anticipation so there aren't any week 14 barnburners
- The whole Kaepernick fiasco won't be fixed by forcing a team to sign him, plus that situation was handled poorly to the point of beyond repair. NFL players should have the right of not standing up if they want to, even if it's on protest or not, Marshawn Lynch handled the situation better and told the media to fuck off when they asked him why was he sitting during an anthem and never was addressed again
- Let the players have fun, the excessive celebration should be limited to any celebration that can be seen as an act of malice
- Reduce the number of international games, give NFL Europe a second try as a development league

Multiball?

>TNF
I work during most of the games and could not agree with you more here.
>Flex MNF
That might be hard, but SNF already gets the highest ratings per week and usually that is flexed as early as Week 7 now.
The media is too toxic to really be held accountable for their anti-NFL narrative though in light of Kaepernick though. And celebrations are what made the NFL fun before Goodell made it the No Fun League. Sometimes I remember as a kid really having fun with watching the players like Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson let it all out after TDs.
>Reduce the number of international games
Disagreed, I'd actually want more, but not just in London. Have it go to a different country every year like the American Bowl in the 80s and 90s for preseason. That will really grow the league internationally. Goodell is fixated on London though, and for a bad reason.

i heard from a british source that there are a surprising amount of NFL fans and ameriboos there. It's not that absurd of an idea of a London NFL team, considering the people there.

I don't believe you because most Brits here hate the NFL and America but I'd be surprised if this is true.

People have multiple entertaining options. The NFL can't pretend the TV public will watch 3 hours of commercials/garbage time and 60 minutes of actual game time. They should reduce the average time of an NFL game.

it's not going to be the national sport anytime soon but there are people there that do like it.

>And celebrations are what made the NFL fun before Goodell made it the No Fun League. Sometimes I remember as a kid really having fun with watching the players like Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson let it all out after TDs.

I have a theory as to why he did that, he saw how the NBA was getting too """dark""" with players' antics and wanted to make the NFL more like MLB. Personally I hate what he's done, but I think he was trying to prevent viewership loss because people didn't want the league to become Niggerball 2 (also note how the NBA changed its image from 15 years ago and it's way more popular now).

If it wasn't fpr live sports I don't think I'd ever watch TV

Of course I watch TV shows and movies but why would I pay when they are all free to download

Actually NBA did a crackdown on nigger culture shortly after Iverson (and his crossovers) became too inconvenient

I might have the timing wrong, but it was obvious that increasing niggerdom correlated with lower viewership of the NBA. The low point was the Pacers-Pistons brawl.

What are they talking about? I stream NFL games all the t...

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>First Amendment Rights
>While on the job
sure thing pedro
try protesting while you are mowing lawns and see if you dont get fired

I figured out how to fix football:
At any one time there are two balls on the field. Each ball basically has it's own football game as it is now. Difference is players can leave their line of scrimage and help out with whatever is going on the with the other ball during a play. If one team has possesion of both balls they have two offenses moving in the same direction with their own line of scrimmage and first down. If each team has a ball than each team has offense and defense on the field at once. Both balls have their own play clock.

I don't really see what difference it makes desu. Would a football game be much better if it only lasted an actual hour?

Hahaha die nigger felon league

>antiquated minds such as yourself.
>antiquated minds such as yourself.
>antiquated minds such as yourself.

wow

>imagine being indoctrinated to like adverts this much

"No"

The immense time delays are being built into the game to feed you adverts. That shit trickles down to all levels and the sport is just lazier for it.

this video explains problems with modern football really well. Too often you have the feeling of "did this play count?" and it puts a lid on your emotional attachment

youtube.com/watch?v=olKvtHM4TXo

Im tired of all the fucking penalties. Nothing destroys the momentum of a game like pass interference penalties. I guess I understand the necessity but it's annoying how, after every big play, you expect a flag, and all the players on the sideline are asking for a flag. It feels like the defense can't really DEFEND because they'll just get called. I'm tired of seeing drives sustained longer by penalties; given them a fresh set of downs is crazy

You guys should all jump on a real sport now so that when the rest of America does the same in 10 years when NFL is dead, you can call them all newfags.

It's a meme. The only people who watch are American expats. Except maybe some hipsters watch the super bowl but only for hipster credit. Literally just yanks and posers pretty much.

for a league that tries so hard to prevent injuries, sure seems like there are more injuries than ever. come playoff time all the teams are garbage because they're all injured and without their best players

Crash it bby

RIP all those innocent popcorns, ice cubes, milk duds and cups that were martyred that night.

Remember them when you look at the night sky!

More and more people are realizing that sports are for the most part a complete waste of time and emotion. I for one am enjoying football's decline. The product is shit and the team owners are shit.

More backlash against conservatism. Meanwhile the NBA and MLS continue to grow.

I think you'd get a few turning up to NFL games for the novelty. Once they realised how little gameplay there actually is, and much delay there is for advertisers to sell them shit, they'd stop going. The only reason Americans accept the current format is because they've been raised on it since birth; it's part of their sporting culture. But objectively, the way in which NFL games are formatted is obscene and potential new viewers wouldn't put up with it.

Low shots create more physical injuries that keep players off the field

the high shots may have been turning brains into mush but in the short term weren't as obviously damaging

Yeah. There's no way people would stand spending 4 hours for 3 hours of shitty adverts, 45 minutes of people stood around and 15 minutes of actual gameplay every week for months.
Even the people who watch test cricket see a more action packed event.

You get a few in the cities, but still not many at all. Rarer than cricket fans even.

We don't accept it as a whole anymore either.

At 1PM EST and 4:30PM EST on Sunday there are multiple games on and die hard NFL fans will either watch their team, or Redzone where there are no commercials as they jump between games.

This is why Sunday Night, Monday Night, and Thursday Night Primetime games where nothing else is going on are taking the biggest hit.

The NBA MLB and NHL all have a schedule that makes watching a Redzone equivalent, or even flipping through League Pass channels yourself a nightly thing. NFL can only subside the boredom on Sunday.

So do those Redzone figures contribute to the overall viewing figures? The NFL can't be happy for more and more people to be watching a commercial-free version of their product.

The game and its culture lend to conservatives, who were/are the primary demographic of viewers. I think it's just the decline of conservatives in general, along with the retarded kaeprnick thing.

Yeah I hate nigger bullshit.

I've seen this kind of comment before. What makes NFL conservative? Serious question, do conservatives like adverts more?

Redzone is sort of a premium channel that cost cable distributors a lot of money to offer and often part of some extra sports package you have pay extra for. So distributors and NFL don't care.

The local broadcast networks that pay the TV contracts and have to sell the advertising time might start to care but they are years away from any re-negotiation.

If anything Redzone is saving Sunday afternoon viewership. Too bad it can't help on Monday and Thursday.

NFL needs to cancel the Thursday game and start staggering the start times of the Sunday games while putting them on more channels.

College football is one crazy ride all day Saturday from 12PM to 1AM at night and there is more than likely multiple good games on at anytime.

Thanks

Projection from millennials

Football is biggest in the south where there are the most republicans. There are some states where high school football if the third biggest sport after the NFL and college football

Football in general is a conservative institution with many small towns in America built around their high school or college team. Before our football games in high school a different local business would treat all of us players to a meal, come watch Thursday walk throughs, and have a big prayer session watching over the safety of the players. Then on Friday night nearly the whole town would shutdown and come tailgate in the parking lot. Watch how NFL incorporates the military and the huge flag and NATIONAL PRIDE into the ceremony of each game. People will say that conservatives stop watching because of the kneeling during the anthem and shit but the NFL's problem is younger more liberal people flocking towards basketball and soccer.

I love football but it is easily 80% advertising and propaganda. Tying your self to your country's national pride is a negative when people don't take pride in their country anymore. I'm sure more people feel ashamed to be American now as opposed to the post 9/11 national pride that the NFL fed so hard off of the last decade plus.

The NFL must love Kaepernick at the moment because he works as a great scapegoat and distraction from their product going down the drain.

Last year they blamed it on the election

Brit in the US here, I like the NFL and I know a decent number of people back home that do. I'd love to see a London team happen one day.

Goodell pls.

Give us some time, the MLS is rapidly growing

NFL is undeniably conservative. It has a lot of militaristic undertones, plus it still has very hot, feminine women cheering on the sideline (in other words, it makes obvious the male/female split). Even the network theme songs have hard drums and blaring trumperts

This isn't bad, I like it, but you can see why liberals are turned off; the NFL is rather right-wing in its presentation.

Theres literally only ONE FUCKING REASON

i want you autists to COUNT
COUNT HOW MANY COMMERCIALS YOU SEE.

THERE IS ON AVERAGE, AS PER MY COUNT, A 5 MINUTE COMMERCIAL BREAK EVERY TWO (LITERALLY FUCJING T W O ) SNAPS.

fuck this semen slurping sport. Im glad its gonna die.

American sports are to BLACKED to be anything other than liberal

too many fucking penalties, it totally ruins the game. this is undeniable.

GET RID OF FUCKING COMMERCIALS

>NFL's problem is younger more liberal people flocking towards basketball and soccer.

I don't get this meme. The NBA's growth (in the US) since the Jordan era has actually been negative. The NBA peaked at 13% of Americans calling it their favorite league/sport in 1998. It's down to about 5% currently.

businessinsider.com/most-popular-sports-in-the-us-2016-3

The NBA just "seems" hugely popular because talking head hot take shows devote blocks of time discussing LaVar Ball or Lebron's latest tweet, but in reality, the stars are bigger than the sport. Most people tune in to watch Lebron, Curry, etc, not necessarily the sport.

And lol soccer. MLS little growth since its inception, EPL draws about 400-500K viewers (Women's golf ratings), Men's national team games drawing about as well as Women's softball. It's not at all on track to become a major sport here.

>I question whether I should even be watching from a moral perspective

Jesus Christ you're a faggot

Constitutional rights are only in question if one party is a state actor

The NFL is private

Players can fuck off to another country where they aren't oppressed and see how many millions they rake in there

>execises his constitutional right to not stand for flag
>2 months later says he isn't going to vote
can't make this shit up

isn't voting a right and not a duty in your country?

But is there more commercials now than there used to be?

I watched a season of that, totally garbage stuff but it was admittedly entertaining in some parts

>you useless fucking cow

Let's be honest: the game would be more enjoyable without pass interference penalties. Viewers want to see receivers and defenders going all-out trying to get the ball. They don't want to see a fucking penalty anytime there is a sliver of contact.

My theory is that there are about as much as commercials now as before.
But, Americans are more and more accostumed with a *certain* sport more popular now, which suffers no commercials.
And seeing NFL's commercials they just can't take it anymore.

>don't mind me, just downloading this movie

You ready for Social Activism Month lads?

>A group of four players sent the NFL a memo in August requesting league support and asking for a month to be dedicated to social activism, not long after commissioner Roger Goodell reportedly had talked to several players regarding their game-day activism efforts.

>According to Yahoo! Sports, defensive end Michael Bennett of the Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins and receiver Torrey Smith, and former Arizona Cardinals wideout Anquan Boldin co-authored the 2,740-word document intended to push the NFL into efforts "similarly to what the league already implements for breast cancer awareness, honoring military, etc."

espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20772327/nfl-players-want-month-dedicated-activism

this... can't be real, right?
Do they know majority of NFL viewers are old angry republican white dudes?
If NFL does that it's straight up suicide

Elite post my fat friend

Kinda

can you remind me what are NFL commercials?
to know who watches a TV program, watch its ads.
viagra, truck, life insurance, beer

>The NBA's growth (in the US) since the Jordan era has actually been negative. The NBA peaked at 13% of Americans calling it their favorite league/sport in 1998. It's down to about 5% currently.

That's a meaningless metric really. You need to look at ratings, attendances, views on social media etc.

>people watching commercials in 2017
this is just as expected with that joke of a "sport"

He's right you know. It's a good article.

>that pic
Good god imagine being conditioned to like commercials to that degree.

More people need to read this and realize the modern male is fucked