Considered one of the few times a remake is better than the original along with Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) and The Thing (1982), David Cronenberg's interpretation of The Fly is remembered as a modern classic but is that reputation deserved?
Firstly, the main character Seth Brundle is only able to use his teleportation device on inanimate objects until he gets the idea to make his computer "crave the flesh" What does that even mean? It's never explained how he programs a computer with something as abstract as to "crave the flesh". It's a pretty lazy way to hand wave the plot moving forward.
Secondly, once Brundle uses the device himself his DNA is fused with a fly which accidentally entered the teleportation chamber with him combining their DNA. However, we are constantly covered in tiny mites on our skin & microbes in our stomachs etc so shouldn't that test baboon have also come out as some hybrid ape/amoeba monstrosity?
stop nickpicking on shit, the story, the characters, the themes and the execution are good thats whats important if you start nickpicking any little detail every sci-fi movie has plot holes and shit
Cameron Bennett
You probably shouldn't be watching cheesy bodyhorror b-movies if you have autism. It tends to trigger it a lot.
Luis Jones
>stop nitpicking where do you think you are?
Tyler Sullivan
Is this YMS?
Colton Cruz
and speaking of bodies and autism are we really supposed to believe that a buff & tanned Jeff Golblum is this autistic scientist who's been holed up alone in his warehouse loft for 6 years?
Daniel Martin
I rewatched it recently and it was as great as I remember. The teaching the computer to crave the flesh was just how he felt it need to be explained to a woman. A little cheesy but it didn't spoil anything for me.
yo' dude why does the monkey never makes any noise around the lab? monkeys are loud as fuck.
PLOT HOLE THIS MOVIE FUCKING SUCKS
Easton Young
he was a TRAINED monkey.
Ian Brown
I liked Fly 2, one of the best monsters of the 80s.
Carter Lee
how is it different than Brundlefly? It's been awhile since I've seen it.
Colton Allen
Why don't they remake more 50's b movies?
Nolan Price
honestly that's something Hollywood doesn't get. They shouldn't be trying to remake great films from the past they should be trying to remake films that had interesting ideas but were deeply flawed and try to improve upon them. That's how we got Body Snatchers, The Thing and The Fly, not like now how we're getting Ghostbusters: Answer the Call etc.
Noah Williams
KEK
Cooper Walker
> they should be trying to remake films that had interesting ideas but were deeply flawed and try to improve upon them
This, pretty much. Say, what movies from the 50's would make up for some sweet remakes?
Gabriel Howard
I don't personally know many movies from the 50s which fit that description because I wouldn't be born for another 30 years so have only seen the films which stood the test of time like Forbidden Planet but what do you think would happen if Hollywood tried to make a good version of Plan 9 From Outer Space?
Justin Ramirez
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Leo Davis
this really takes me back holy shit thanks user
Ian Cooper
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Xavier Edwards
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Noah Sullivan
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Aiden Turner
>Teleporting only inanimate matter Your first criticism can be answered as follows: In a modern remake Seth would explain with something like: "The algorithm has problems dealing with organic carbon bonds. The complexity of the bonds has simply overwhelmed its processing ability. But I discovered a mathematical shortcut to simplify it. Now it craves the flesh as it were!" >microbe monstrosity Second criticism, Seth's modern lamentation: "You see the machine's algorithm discards distinct DNA patterns below 10 micrometers. In my haste to perfect the algorithm I did not anticipate another distinct living multi cellular creature in the pod with me greater than 10 micrometers. Oh the hubris!" ... Remember OP, it was a simpler time back then and audiences didn't need the technical explanations that we demand today.
Sebastian Turner
But what if he teleported flubber?
Evan Ramirez
Because that's how it happened, user. We don't know if it would have happened differently.
Owen Moore
So it would recreate him on the otherside without his intestinal microbes? that wouldn't be good either. He would need a poop transplant.
Jaxon Baker
No it would not fuse the DNA. It would only transport carbon molecules smaller than 10 micrometer. ... Also remember this: I wrote: " But I discovered a mathematical shortcut to simplify it." In 2054 the criticism will be: Impossible! Any high school kid knows that Heisenfrauer showed in 2032 that predicting carbon DNA sequences above the 4th order is impossible. Total hogwash. ... People are getting smarter.
Tyler Smith
>people are getting smarter Autistic people aren't regular people and the average person only knows tons of dumb pointless shit while they can't do basic tasks like cook a meal
Kevin Bell
then why are autistic people always so fat?
Sebastian Lee
>people are getting smarter Scientists have known about this for decades. See: The flynn effect
Ayden Martin
either it's transporting his symbiotic good n plenty which is established to fuse into a single entity by the rules of the in-film universe or it doesn't REEEEEEE
Jordan Wilson
Because they also can't cook meals, but it isn't because they are dumb, just retarded
Easton Foster
Let me try to explain again: In the modern retelling distinct patterns smaller than 10 micrometer are only transported not fused. Here are the following simple programming rules: 1. Can you identify a distinct repetitive DNA pattern within cellular boundary limits? 2. Is the total mass of the distinct carbon pattern smaller repetition than 10 micrometers? If both are 'yes' transport. Incident: 1. Can you identify a distinct repetitive DNA pattern? YES 2. Is the total mass of the distinct carbon pattern smaller repetition than 10 micrometers? NO This means its the main carbon entity mass. Transport entire mass. Wait second distinct DNA entity detected bigger than 10 micrometers. What do? 'else if' ERROR HANDLING Revert to AI algorithm. May be part of original organism. Fuse at genetic level. ... I'm done now.
Michael Kelly
MartinFly was a fully functioning giant humanoid Fly, Brundlefly was more like a walking piece of turd in comparison.
Cameron Price
In the first movie, the AI is really fucking confused about the situation and decides that the current body (Brundle) is only an intermediate step towards the final product (Brundlefly), so it has this human body undergo a clumsy metamorphosis by making shit literally drop off of Brundle while other things change.
However, the AI does look at the gametes (semen and the precursor germline) and decides that if it were going to gestate in a human host, you'd want to be genetically compatible with it (MartinFly is 3/4 human, 1/4 fly). You'd also have the opportunity to go through cocooning and such as this tiny fertilized egg grows up, so it says "Yeah, I can really spit and polish THIS one."
So, MartinFly looks much more evolved than the crude BrundleFly partially because it is more human, but partially because the AI has more "room" to plan over the MartinFly's growth period from being the size of a pinhead to a full human(oid).
Andrew Green
My personal remake fodder?
1) Carnival of Souls. 2) The Seventh Victim.
Both too-short, flawed movies with a lot of potential if they were given a little room to breathe. Note that they're both under eighty minutes.