Why did European settlers have to chimp out and genocide Native Americans?

Why did European settlers have to chimp out and genocide Native Americans?

I've been reading books and studying Native American culture the past few months and they were really a beautiful group of people. It makes me sad because they'll never return to their old ways. I usually don't have sympathy for minorities like niggers complaing about "muh culture" when they do nothing to help themselves,but native Americans simply can't rebuild because of how devastated they were by white rule. Fuck wh*Tes

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>I usually don't have sympathy for minorities like niggers
somehow natives manage to be even worse than them mick

Pathetic whiteboys. Go watch your countries burn

I don't know, ask the irish niggers who came in massive waves and took their land.

Lol,no. It was Germans,French and British who butchered these innocents. We didn't come for another 100 years.

Fun fact: Injuns and Irish were and are the two most common groups to racemix with each other in America. You won't find a partial Native American without heavy Irish ancestry

Ever heard of disease?

flu got them the worst, I think

Yeah we Germans learned early how to get rid of people we don't like and have perfected this method ever since.

Mexicancopypastaincoming

>Tell me, honestly; would your life be better if the Europeans hadn't discovered America,
fuck yes

>It has also been suggested that the Spanish conquest of Mesoamerica influenced the history of the botanical garden[14] as gardens in Tenochtitlan established by king Nezahualcoyotl,[18] also gardens in Chalco (altépetl) and elsewhere, greatly impressed the Spanish invaders, not only with their appearance, but also because the indigenous Aztecs employed many more medicinal plants than did the classical world of Europe.[19][20] Hernando Cortés reportedly told the Spanish monarch that the Aztec physicians were superior to those in Spain, so superior, in fact, that the king need not bother sending Spanish physicians to the New World. Statement later confirmed in a early letter by the personal physian of the Spanish monarch who spent 7 years studying the Aztec medicine in a research trip that was expected to last 6 months: ‘"I marveled, in this and in innumerable other herbs, which are nameless among us, how in the Indies, where people are so uncultured and barbaric, there are so many herbs, some with known uses and some without, but there is almost none, which is not known to them and given a particular name".
>Mayan estimate of the length of the synodic month being more accurate than Ptolemy's,[2] and their calculation as to the length of the tropical solar year was more accurate than that of the Spanish when the latter first arrived
>The Aztec Triple Alliance, which ruled from 1428 to 1521 in what is now central Mexico, is considered to be the first state to implement a system of universal compulsory education.[4][5]
>According to the Guinness Book of Records, Cholula is in fact the largest pyramid as well as the largest monument ever constructed anywhere in the world, with a total volume estimated at over 4.45 million cubic metres, even larger than that of the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, which is about 2.5 million cubic metres.

>Spanish conquistador Hernán Cortés arrived in Tenochtitlan on November 8, 1519. With an estimated population between 200,000 and 300,000, many scholars believe Tenochtitlan to have been among the largest cities in the world at that time.[14] Compared to Europe, only Paris, Venice and Constantinople might have rivaled it. It was five times the size of the London of Henry VIII.[6]

>"Our astonishment was indeed raised to the highest pitch, and we could not help remarking to each other, that all these buildings resembled the fairy castles we read of in Amadis de Gaul; so high, majestic, and splendid did the temples, towers, and houses of the town, all built of massive stone and lime, rise up out of the midst of the lake. Indeed, many of our men asked if what they saw was a mere dream. And the reader must not feel surprised at the manner in which I have expressed myself, for it is impossible to speak coolly of things which we had never seen nor heard of, nor even could have dreamt of, beforehand."
Bernal díaz del Castillo, True History of the Conquest of New Spain Chapter LXXXVII

>"Moctezuma He possessed out of the city as well as within, numerous villas, each of which had its peculiar sources of amusement, and all were constructed in the best possible manner for the use of a great prince and lord. Within the city his palaces were so wonderful that it is hardly possible to describe their beauty and extent; I can only say that in Spain there is nothing equal to them."
- Hernan Cortes, Second Letter of Relation to Charles V

>It has been speculated that the Maya solved this urban transportation problem by constructing a 100-meter long suspension bridge across the wild river in the late 7th century. The bridge which featured three spans extended from a platform on the grand plaza of Yaxchilan crossing the river to the northern shore. The 63 meter center span remained the longest in the world until the construction of the Italian Trezzo sull'Adda Bridge in 1377

>They agreed to work at it viribus et posse, and began at once to divide the task between them, and I must say that they worked so hard, and with such good will, that in less than four days they constructed a fine bridge, over which the whole of the men and horses passed. So solidly built it was, that I have no doubt it will stand for upwards of ten years without breaking —unless it is burnt down — being formed by upwards of one thousand beams, the smallest of which was as thick round as a man's body, and measured nine or ten fathoms (16.8-18m) in length, without counting a great quantity of lighter timber that was used as planks. And I can assure your Majesty that I do not believe there is a man in existence capable of explaining in a satisfactory manner the dexterity which these lords of Tenochtitlan, and the Indians under them, displayed in constructing the said bridge: I can only sav that it is the most wonderful thing that ever was seen.
- Fifth Letter of Relation by Cortes to Charles V

When will Europeans apologize to former colonies for damaging them?
while former colonies of the glorious Japan are advanced

North Korea isn't

> former colonies of glorious Japan are advanced
> Genocided all over China

Yeah, a couple million less chinese sounds like and advancement. /s

Not all European settlers did this, it was mostly a yank and Spanish thing. The French and Canadian Anglos were much nicer with them.

When will Japan recognize Nanking masacre?

t. Indian living in leprechaun land

>feather niggers
>beautiful people

I live near an Ute reservation and the savages do nothing but drink and huff paint varnish all day while beating their wives and raping their children. Wish we'd just listened to Phil Sheridan and exterminated all of them.

In Canada, they account for something like 80% of the prison population.

Shut up idiot

Thats weird, because I remember some IQ charts posted around here to prove some white > blacks/spics superiority complex that showed native americans having better IQ than white americans. Why is that they are apparently so smart but live in shit?

Yeah, OP should visit Winnipeg some time if he wants to see how great a culture they are.

Ute mountain utes aren't that bad, though they aren't great either and yes, in Canada a first nations man is 3 times more likely to commit a crime than a black person in the USA.
Still, OP said the history of, not current condition of Indians. The ones we see now are essentially mad max style apocalypse survivors and are incredibly dissimilar from pre-contact natives.

>and are incredibly dissimilar from pre-contact natives.
Given that those pre-contact natives went to war and committed genocides on each other... for example, the Erie tribe were completely wiped out in a war with the Iroquois confederation. The Aztec Empire fell because other tribes were willing to assist Cortez in their downfall since they kidnapped people for human sacrifice.

Ignoring the Disney version of Pocahontas, the English arrived in Virginia right after Chief Powhatan had subdued neighboring tribes in a horribly bloody war.

You'd think with all the war they had, like Europe, they'd have developed past bow and arrows and rock-axes..

No draft animals. You're limited in what you can do with no horses and no cattle to plow a field with.

I never suggested that they didn't wage wars or that they weren't brutal savages. Canada probably couldn't have won the war of 1812 and prevented American expansionism if it weren't for native savagery. I just said that what we think of as Indian culture now is dissimilar to pre-contact Indian culture.

>like Europe, they'd have developed past bow and arrows and rock-axes..
Well it sucks for the Native Americans that they didn't have anybody similar to the Chinese to give them gunpowder.

They literally are Chinese, they came to North America over a land-bridge from Asia.

No, they're Siberian

We're all Siberian.

Maybe you are. I am pure Greek.

It was rightful white clay

Greece vs. Siberia, I think Siberia wins.

Ceci, je suis grec pure laine

I don't understand why that post is Sarcasm. The Chinese could use a few hundred million less

Yet Indians suck here too.

No wheel, either.

It's pretty much useless if you don't have domesticated animals to pull your wagons.

but the wheel of time.

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Not to mention the Mayans invented the wheel but only used it for making children's toys.

also ask the brits when they forced the Irish out of their homes into a harsh strange land and at one point enslaved them

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this, the french mainly just wanted to trade with them and they're welcomed to the settlers if they're willing to integrate. the brits on the other hand.....

these

generally old world diseases killed like 80%+ of precontact populations

They didn't

>Epidemics of smallpox (1518, 1521, 1525, 1558, 1589), typhus (1546), influenza (1558), diphtheria (1614) and measles (1618) swept the Americas subsequent to European contact,[30][31] killing between 10 million and 100 million[32] people, up to 95% of the indigenous population of the Americas

>Epidemics killing up to 95% of the indigenous population of the Americas

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_colonization_of_the_Americas

More like perfected welcoming refugees

>I've been reading books and studying Native American culture the past few months and they were really a beautiful group of people.
You've been reading revisionist folk-lore of certain bands of Natives. The whole "only take what you need was really only practiced in a few different groups. Not to mention that when you say "Native American" you have to realize that you're talking about a wide range of linguistic and cultural origins. Mostly they were just a less developed group of people that were in competition with a more technologically advanced one. The attitudes of some were to assimilate as much as possible and others were to fight the whites. Depending on region and the colonial power they ran into, there was varying levels of success up to around the time of the Indian Wars.

>Why did European settlers have to chimp out and genocide Native Americans?
In the Spanish parts of the Americas, it was for pillage and even then it was more common to bed down with the best looking women in the village than to start violence. In the French and British colonial areas it was because the moment they started to settle permanently there was a sudden competition for land and resources. As a result, it was effectively a race war they lost.

You japs invaded all the country's in the far east to rob their resources, you killed and tortured more people for fun than the Germans !

irish came afterwards lad when they had cities up.

scots were alright, alot of natives and scottish traders/fur merchants usually married.

That was the rich orange order kicked the Catholics out of their homes, hence the IRA

The original settlers of the south were northern irish (scots-irish) and they're still the dominant ethnic group in the south to this day. Andrew Jackson, the most famous teepee-remover in American history, was a Southern man descended from Irish colonists.

Why do foreignshits always act like they're so knowledgeable on American history and culture when the vast majority of the time they're laughably ill informed?

I used to think the same way. But the truth of the matter is, there are a lot of civilizations in the past that had potentials to bloom, but were sniffed out before they had the chance.

Given the current state of Native American reservations, I don't think native Americans will ever recover their culture like they used to, but the least you and I can do is commemorate their culture so that it can still have an impact on lives, on a more individual level.

This is true OP. Despite the mostreatments the colonists did to the natives, the majority of natives died from diseases.

Because they were just fighting for their survival like everyone else at the time and defenseless people were just weasy target to increase their own chances. Societal empathy is a modern construct.

You realize that 'indians' in old timey movies and pornos are just white girls in native american getup right.

Fuck off m8 they killed each other all the time before Europeans came. Also disease killed most of them.

Stop reading romanticized stuff, read actual academic works potato nigger.SA

>and they were really a beautiful group of people
Are people even aware of how patronising that sounds?
I remember way back in highschool when we had this really oddball substitute teacher for history for a period of time and she was like that as well.
We were learning something about the Australian aboriginals though all I can remember of those lessons was being handed my first proper afterschool detention for arguing with the teacher. She was going on about how the aboriginals were beautiful people with beautiful culture, etc. etc. it was really fucking patronising and when I brought up the point that they shat, fucked, fought and ate just like everyone else and it might be useful to actually learn a bit about instead of looking at pictures of children holding weapons they'd likely never used or wearing paints they'd likely never seen before the photoshot.

I remember it because she had the same attitude as the strawman in the OP, but it was in earnest and the idea that these "noble savages" were just people like everyone else for some reason really fucking set off her rocker. She flipped like a religious person going from holier than thou to calling me a racist, a bigot, etc. at that age it was really fucking weird and uncomfortable to have that thrown in my face.

I imagine that this is how those muh heritage autists in America and the like operate.

North Korea was taken by the Soviets, to be honest.

Inferior culture. That how the world works since ever.

Native Americans killed each other before Europeans too

Aztecs had slaves from weak tribes for example

Also natives are worse than muh slavery blacks

>killed each other all the time
>disease killed most of them

Much like Europe then.

nice digits

the thing that bothers me most is the lost knowledge.
the Mayans maintained libraries full of codices for hundreds of years , of which now only a handful were retained.
think of all the stories that will never be told , the insight never to be unveiled...this makes me sad

Because they were the fags who chimped out of Europe, user