Wonder Woman is a disjointed disaster says DC insider

Wonder Woman is a disjointed disaster says DC insider

Sasha Perl-Raver, host of the Schmoes Know podcast, dropped the following tidbit about the upcoming 'Wonder Woman' movie

"So, I don't want to throw anyone under the bus. We have somebody within our community who has gotten insider information that broke my effing heart this week, because I have tremendous belief that Wonder Woman is gonna be awesome and I heard it stinks from the same person who told me that they heard that BvS stinks...The person who I spoke to...their response was 'I'm very disappointed in what I saw, and it seems like all the problems are the same problems. It's discombobulated, it doesn't have narrative flow. It's just very disjointed."

Keeping the universe consistent

why DC doesn't like success?? is so easy for them, they have the heroes, the villians, the stories, the fans, ugh, I hope this is not true because I want to like these movies.

i wanna hotglue this chinese wondy

i don't think they have a plan like marvel does, they're just seeing it as it goes

consistently shit

they don't establish their characters enough beforehand, or the reasons behind their actions and they try to copy Nolan's Batman style and Snyder's cult Watchmen aesthetic to achieve their success, but it doesn't work. It worked for Nolan, but not every DC movie has to be that way.

Its fear and nervousness from the execs.
Instead of just making a fucking movie and saying "Here it is, this is our vision, deal with it." they go through test audiences and board room meetings and reshoots to add 'fun' and 'entertainment' to closer resemble Marvel.
They're afraid of being thier own brand, and they're suffering for it.

they're just coasting on iconic characters instead of putting effort into making good movies

>Schmoes Knows
You mean the literal Disney shills who called Rogue One and Episode VII great movies? They are worse than Cuckmann.

are we really shocked though? the trailer was pretty bad already.

disappointed but not surprised

>2017
>reading reviews paid off by Disney

I lost all faith in this project and character ever since that Jewish skeleton was cast.

What were they thinking?

The movie isnt out until like june though right, is post production done already? How can someone know its a mess if the movie isnt finished yet?

>They called great movies great

Jesus, how low can they go

IT IS LITERAL FACT THAT MARVEL PAYS FOR BAD REVIEWS

Most movies are done months ahead of time, it was probably already done before even christmas

it already looks mediocre just going by the trailers

the posters looked questionable if not bad, the DCEU has already proven that it can't put together a coherent movie if it's life depended on it, and WB is just flat out greedy. i've called it since the beginning: they just want the money, they're not invested in anything else but that. they've blatantly put out movies to directly compete with marvel from the jump -- which wouldn't be bad if it weren't for the fact that they didn't even have that much of a hit with MoS.

they simply do not care at the end of the day. they can have it so easy but they just refuse.

I'm so happy. I hate Gal Gadot, I hate what Snyder has done with the universe and I hate SJWs. This will be sweet.

I'm not surprised. I think they should have just done what Sony did and scrap everything and just reboot everything with a new team behind the scenes. Trying to drag what has already failed is just prolonging the inevitable.

It's a studio problem. A DC Cinematic Universe cannot thrive under Warner Bros, I've been thinking this even before Man of Steel. The management over there are misguided, misinformed, and just overall out of touch.

All businesses want to make money, and the film industry is no exception. However there are some businesses that understand there's a formula to success if you focus on quality before what is cheap and efficient. The people behind the MCU understand that they have been massively successful, because they took the time and effort, to carefully craft their universe, by producing quality films, while simultanously understanding and respecting the source material.

It should be noted that WB is actual on record saying they had no interest in copying Marvel. Their attitude however changed after The Avengers, and when that move made $1.5 billion dollars, all of a sudden Warner Bros wanted a little taste of that fucking pie that Disney/Marvel had been snacking on, and they didn't give a fuck how they got there.

Thus you have the DCEU. A rushed, misguided, mismanaged, fucking disaster. Make no mistake, it is a failing franchise, and it will crash and burn. So many people have said they are looking forward to WW way more than Justice League. Think about that. This movie has people more excited than the fucking Justice League.

What happens when (and it will) Wonder Woman is a critical flop too? People's patience and trust is about to run out.

their struggle is embarrassing to watch

Gal Gadot couldn't vocally act for shit. Sure, she looks pretty and can do an action scene, but her accent was awful, all over the place, and had no tone or sense of real emotion.

And this is ignoring the fact that DC has the worst editors and scripts. Plus, this was in development at the same time as DC's other two shitty movies so far.

I'm shocked. No, wait, the opposite of that.

This would make sense if you've never actually scene the movies yourself and had no concept of basic film work, like editing scenes together.

In b4 people somehow make this about how boring/repetitive/bad marvel movies are?

B-but Marvel movies are just dumb formulaic explosionfests for the tractor-driving, popcorn-swilling masses!

It should also be noted that not too long ago, someone on twitter asked John Boyega if he would consider playing a role (I think it was Green Lantern) in the DCEU. And John's response was:

"Nooooooo thank you....."

Either John is smarter than the rest, or word of mouth in Hollywood is starting to spread that the DCEU is poison, and actors who can't afford to, don't want to hurt their careers by taking on a DC role.

Can't believe the studio that brought us Suicide Squad, something that contained some of the worst editing I've ever seen in a mainstream film, would make a bad movie.

mousketeers already shaping up the narrative to give the shill critics a heads up isee

jay gtfo

they need a story from start to finish with a climax and all that basic 3rd grade shit. Back to basics and build it from there. Also get rid of test audience and all that shit.

>What happens when (and it will) Wonder Woman is a critical flop too?
Wait until an Aquaman movie, which is floating around down there near a Boba Fett movie and Aliens vs. Predator.

And Assassin's Creed.

Seriously. I usually never notice editing on my first watch because I'm sucked into the storytelling, but SS was so terrible from the minute the WB logo showed up I could tell something was wrong.

BvS is kind of a terrible masterpiece of bad so I'm okay with this.

People give this many fucks over a character with a lasso of truth and an invisible jet who blocks bullets with her bracelets? Why

thats the thing though. shes not gonna have those because they are silly.

>I heard it stinks from the same person who told me that they heard that BvS stinks
Confirmed for K I N O

silly you say?

reminder

>comic book movies need to be dark and edgy

this is why dc is shit

>he thinks SS was dark & edgy
now you're just meme shouting.

here's a leaked scene from the film

>John Boyega
The guy is literally on Disney payroll, what did you expect?

>tfw this movie will get trashed for the same reason critics liked about the new Ghostbusters.

I've done the math, and studied the patterns. This DC movie will be the positively received just for casting a fem lead alone. This will get a lukewarm 70% but no lower than 65% RT. Factor that it's a DC movie and deduct points based on it not being marvel, but not give it a few extra points for just the token female lead alone along with director being a female and it'll have a lukewarm reception despite probably going to be the shittiest of the bunch. Now if WW's actress were trans...That would be an Oscar!

Just give me three hours of Black Manta fucking up Aquaman's friends and family. NC-17. Come on. Gimme.

some of the best Wonder Woman runs have taken her pretty seriously. DCU's problem is execution

She has already used two of those three things.

Assassin's Creed came out though?

WRONG. This is their attempt at making a brand, it's their signature "clusterfuck cut". The entire DC universe literally ruined by one man cutting those movies after they're done to give them a signature DC "clusterfuck cut".

>that Suicide Squad theatrical cut
What they were thinking? Had someone really watched the cut and thought: "yeah, that's perfect"?

>people are taking DUDE RUMORS LMAO seriously

They were right about the last two.

No she hasnt.

...

>We could have gotten a Joker, Harley and Batman movie
>nah Wonder Woman, Cyborg instead
It is WB's fault this movie will flop

>I heard it stinks from the same person who told me that they heard that BvS stinks...

The same person that was wrong.

All of Affleck's scenes are brilliant. If you cut out the Superman scenes and just make it a 90 minute Batman flick then BvS would be legendary

That's the TV show

>why DC doesn't like success??

None of the DCEU movies have lost money.

The theatrical cut of Suicide Squad is a disgrace to editing.

Why they even included it on the blu ray along with the Extended Cut which was only an extra 13 minutes

>None of the DCEU movies have lost money.
BvS should have made $1 billion and instead it lost $3 million.

Suicide Squad should have opened in China but their decision to include a witch (instead of making Joker the main villain) cost them a lot

>why DC doesn't like success??

BvS and SS were still profitable for them.

No shit Sherlock.

SS did surprisingly well by not opening in China

>Suicide Squad should have opened in China but their decision to include a witch (instead of making Joker the main villain) cost them a lot

Are you saying that not pandering to Chinese censorship is a bad thing? Suicide Squad broke records even without China which if anything makes it a bigger success. Not saying it's a good movie btw.

So will Affleck's Batman movie be made? I hate ti thing what will happen if it doesn't and Affleck leaves the DC, being angry with WB for not letting him take full control.

>Not saying it's a good movie btw.
I'd watch Suicide Squad any day over Michael Bay robots fighting.

>makes it a bigger success
Wait, you're saying it's a bigger success because it didn't make the money it could've made?

He already said he would.

not a high bar my man

Compare its numbers to other capeshit movies discounting China, it was a massive success. I mean BvS really won an uphill battle in the box office but SS pulled a true Thermopyles on critics. Which is a damn shame because I liked BvS and MoS and now all their movies are going to be like SS

You are going to watch Gotham City Sirens and you care going to love it!

>Which is a damn shame because I liked BvS and MoS and now all their movies are going to be like SS

This. The age of Capekino was over before it began.

I will but ONLY IF Poison Ivy is Christina Hendricks and Catwoman is Eva Green.

Unless Ivy is played by a true godess and the movie features basically softcore lez porn they can fuck themselves

Poison Ivy will be a sassy black woman. Probably the one from Ghost Busters

Believe it or not user, brekaing records isnt about the quality of the films, its about releasing the same genre after another, if Marvel releases a Marvel Movie, it will absolutely HYPE the DC movie coming after it.

thats how normies work, they dont care about studios, if they liked Doctor Strange, theyll try to watch Suicide Squad because both are super hero movies

So when we were introduced to Harley, she is said to be 'accomplice to the murder of Robin' which basically and literally means that she was already Harley Quinn when the murder happened.

But Joker already had his grills when Joker turned Harleen into 'Harley', David Ayer literally confirms that Joker had the grills BECAUSE batman beat the *beep* out of him so bad that he needed the grills;

>“This is sort of my personal thing and maybe less about a larger connection. But Joker killed Robin and Batman basically smashes his teeth out and locks him up in Arkham Asylum,” Ayer explained. “It’s in the asylum where Joker would have done the ‘damaged’ tattoo as a message to Batman saying, ‘You’ve damaged me. I was so beautiful before and now you’ve destroyed my face.’ That’s where the grill comes from.”

So Joker was sent to Arkham Asylum AFTER he killed Robin and only met Harley AFTER Robin was killed, so Harley couldnt have been an accomplice to Robin's murder

It will get made but will be a massive disappointment. Look at how long it took Affleck to make Live by Night, which he wrote, directed, starred in and produced - and the rather poor result.

His Batman movie will be the same.

>Believing Marvel's propaganda

DC has being going out of their way to hire hot women though, they have that slut who cucked Johnny Depp already and I think the idea behing hiring Cara Delememe was the same (although she's ugly af)

Are you retarded? They're setting up a simple-as-fuck time-paradox AFTER we saw The Flash appearing from the future in the previous movie and you don't even get it?
Is this what all Marvelfags are like?
>Hurr I can't into non-linear passage of time, hurr-durr
Fuck off, this is a kino thread for mature, intelligent people who enjoy Zack Snyder's nihilist setting and have Leto-Joker's wicked sense of humor.

>Look at how long it took Affleck to make Live by Night
I thought that was just a quick one off thing. Didn't know he put so much work in it

Affleck's already sick of this shit, I can't imagine how much worse he's gonna feel a year from now, how much more sad and angry he's gonna get.

What's his problem? Doesn't he know how fans are when someone is directing and acting as their favorite super hero? Of course he is gonna get asked 24/7 about it

>being put through the quip grinder as he has to carry Justice League on his shoulders
>not to mention Justice League part 2
>still has to make The Batman while keeping the studio in check and fighting them every step of the way to keep his vision
>still needing to keep working on something else in the hopes he'll maintain some semblance of credibility in the business
I feel so bad for him. He deserves more than this.

Batman is the only thing he has going on after his last conventional movie bombed. But yeah he has the RDJ "doing heroin and sleeping in an alley wasn't so bad compared to this" eyes already

>how much more sad and angry he's gonna get.
The better Batman he will become.

His hair is going to get so grey from the stress :(

>mfw he actually becomes his Batman creation

His problem is his personal life and career are in the shitter.

The Accountant is one of the best films made in the last 10 years though

He's turning into Batman from BvS, problem is Batman won't be like that from now on.

>problem is Batman won't be like that from now on.
mfw he re-writes Batman so he can relate to him

And thus he really DOES become Miller's grumpy old Batman who keeps doing what he's always done despite the world rejecting it.

>his mob boss movie failed where he tried to make a mob guy have morals
>he decides to make a violent psychopathic movie due to his frustration of his career
10/10 would watch and it would be hailed as an ultimate KINO

His personal life is probably what is fucking him up. Live By Night is a dud(although I hear it's not that bad but for Ben standards it should be better.)which is weird considering Ben's track record of directing and writing. He needs to get his personal live in check.

What exactly is his major malfunction?