> According to host Sasha Perl-Raver, someone with insider info has seen the movie, or at least a decent chunk of the movie, and claims that it is "discombobulated" and not the great movie the trailers have led fans to believe it might be.
> "So, I don't want to throw anyone under the bus. We have somebody within our community who has gotten insider information that broke my effing heart this week, because I have tremendous belief that Wonder Woman is gonna be awesome and I heard it stinks from the same person who told me that they heard that BvS stinks...The person who I spoke to...their response was 'I'm very disappointed in what I saw, and it seems like all the problems are the same problems. It's discombobulated, it doesn't have narrative flow. It's just very disjointed."
Elijah Ortiz
people said that about BvS but it was pretty straightforward and simple as fuck
are people just too stupid for DC movies?
Owen Turner
>someone with insider info My dad works at Nintendo too
Adrian Martin
what i don't get is with all the "body positivity" shit that's been plaguing american society lately the had the opportunity to cast T H I C C and instead they casted S T I C C
Mason Fisher
No NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Josiah Fisher
>$0.03 has been deposited into your account
Brandon Gray
Why these cowards can never make the claims themselves? Always a friend of a friend of a faggot
Aaron Morales
how many times have i seen this thread?
jfc marvel pajeets work hard for the money. no wonder they hire so many of you
James Sanchez
Superman vs Wonderwoman, fight to the death.
Who wins?
>Round 2: Faora
>Round 3: Linda Carter WW
>Round 4: Rey
Julian Howard
Yeah I kinda figured it would be shit after watching Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad.
JUSTice League will be awful too.
Camden Richardson
I kind of doubt the film itself has even been edited at this point . So how could it be a mess?
Oliver Taylor
I CAN'T
Logan Sanchez
The movie itself was easy to understand. All the symbolism and imagery was shoved in your face so hard that everyone was able to grasp it. What people don't understand was why the movie was so bad.
Bentley Cox
I don't think people criticised BvS for being hard to follow or understand, but rather for lacking a coherent flow, making many parts of the movie feel like random disjointed scenes edited together
Justin Sullivan
post your Wonder Waifus
Brandon Morales
Are people dumb?
Sebastian Gomez
>many parts of the movie feel like random disjointed scenes edited together
So, a comic book. Ok.
Jayden Young
>watch movie >it's like a comic book >somehow this is a good thing
Easton Young
>get me the harrow audience
David Rogers
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Owen Richardson
It's a comic book movie
Camden Edwards
If the part ,"No narrative flow" is true, they really have got themselves the trouble in their hand. It's the stand alone film. How much credibility do ya think this so-called "inside story" would have ???
David Anderson
Post your Evans.
Ethan Roberts
>There aren't any disney shills on Sup Forums they said
There are like 2-3 DC bashing threads on Sup Forums 24/7
Leo Reed
>It's worse than the abysmal trailers have let on
kek. Glorious. Another DC-aster incoming.
Grayson Rodriguez
Which 3rd world shit hole are you posting from?
Elijah Ramirez
If Sup Forums hates capeshit so much why do they always talk about Checkmate plebs
Juan Jenkins
Kek (笑´・艸・) Working the comic store makes the insider as well, ehhhh !?
Jeremiah Robinson
>I don't think people criticised BvS for being hard to follow or understand
They did.
Jack Nelson
>Man of Steel was shit >BvS was shit >Suicide Squad was shit >Wonder Woman will also be shit no surprises here
Noah Scott
Yes, in the sense that it is based on comic book stories characters and tries to translate them into film. Films have clear linear narrative structures and BvS struggles with the concept at times
don't try to tell me it's some elaborate ploy purposively used by 'based' snyder in order to pay homage to the comic book medium
Hunter Williams
It's a podcast Where the person said a friend told them About a film that probably hasn't been edited yet
The movie is probably bad (it's based on a comic book) but the sources credibility is zero
Levi Ortiz
They didn't understand how a movie with Superman and Batman could be so bad.
Isaac James
It's a movie. You watch it. And even it was made comic book style, the writing was bad. There's no excuse.
Eli Barnes
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Brayden Martinez
How can they be continuously fucking up so badly?
Can they seriously not identify the problems with their garbage films?
Time to scrap it and start over.
Carson Bailey
>films have
Stopped reading right there
Anthony Torres
No, they didn't understand character's motivations, what most the scenes were about, what was happening and so on.
Matthew Johnson
in short it doesnt fucking make sense, the editing is terrible, the characters are terrible and their motivations are weak as fuck only DCucks defend that movie
Adam Peterson
great argument
You showed him
Liam Price
yeah, it's not like there are repeating marvel hate threads on here daily
Logan Foster
It goes both ways. Sup Forums is 90% capeshitposting period.
Christopher Gonzalez
>How can they be continuously fucking up so badly?
>WB executive meddling >Not caring about the source material like Marvel does >Zack Snyder
Ayden Lopez
No, people are just stupid. There wasn't much action and not enough exposition.
Angel Wright
Boy, I sure miss the seventies...
James Evans
lol the fuck the motives were clear as day stop making shit up. the movie handfed you everything
Alexander Butler
>films have rules they must follow
I bet you like when YouTube reviewers point out plot holes
Wyatt Lopez
>there's literally no way for the filmmakers and studio who have millions of dollars invested to know how well the movie production is coming along. They have to wait for the first rough edited version before knowing there are any problems whatsoever.
Thomas White
more like >films need to be good plot holes aren't good. they're one of the most objective signs of bad writing.
Mason King
>How can they be continuously fucking up so badly? >Can they seriously not identify the problems with their garbage films? Zack Snyder is one of the problems, strong visuals but dumb as rock he is try hard manlet trying to be a chad artist
the other problem is Warner playing catch up with Marvel and doing shit backwards
Kayden Thompson
Yeah, but people are stupid.
How many threads asking about what Lex's motivations were have we had over the year? How many threads asking why Batman wanted to kill Superman have we had?
Jordan Ortiz
dcucks in denial as always everybody understood the 'motivations', it's just that they were shit and illogical, maybe aside from batman, but the execution was fucking terrible with the martha scene
Julian Edwards
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Parker Jackson
>story Pretty fucking stupid and pointless overall.
>plot A complete mess. Pacing?What's that? Jumping around every 5 minutes for the first half an hour. Editing is completely shot. We go from one area to the next with little to no transition at times. Theatrical is filled with plot holes.
>characters Superman's motives don't matter, Lex forces him to fight Batman. Batman's motives don't matter, Superman's mother shares his mother's name. No arcs for any characters.
>B-batman had an arc! Did he? He killed thugs right after the martha twist, so that wasn't it. You could say he had an arc at the very end of the movie, but offscreen doesn't count.
Lex is probably one of the worst acted characters in a blockbuster this entire year.
>cinematography Would be decent if Snyder didn't shove Jesus imagery down your throat every 5 seconds.
>score Decent. Nothing memorable or great. Wonder Woman's theme is cheesy.
>action Decent. Actual fight vs. the two heroes is pretty dull and short for the hour+ build up. Very underwhelming. Warehouse scene is the best fight without question. It was great. Everything with Doomsday was worse than. Attack of the Clones.
Overall this movie is pretty bad and I'd recommend just watching all the action scenes then moving on.
James Foster
>everybody understood the 'motivations'
Tell me what was Superman arc in the movie all about. Go on. I dare you.
Kayden Thompson
It's only one thread you are in a infinity loop
Logan Johnson
The characters motivations were easy to understand but terrible. >Batman will not kill ANYONE EVER even if it's someone beyond redemption like the fucking Joker but will try to kill Superman because there's a remote possibility he could maybe turn bad.
k
Liam Cook
Why? you are literally supporting the most jew corporation called Disney, you are the liberals of flicks. BvS is the best comic movie ever made, and if you look at the negative reviews, they are stupid as fuck, for the most part.
More people just wanted a stupid nu male quip-esque capeshit movie.
If DC doesnt give this kind of tries, people would just have...Marvel flicks.
Jace Bennett
You just proved that you didn't understood Batman's motivations.
Levi Nelson
How comes Lynda Carter at any point in time looks better than Gadot?
Mason Martin
The plot literally flew over your head.
Angel Phillips
Damn pajeet doing work on the smear campaign
Surely it worked on getting shillary into office xD
Oliver King
Gadot, huh So there's no women with curves and talent in america anymore?
Tyler Bailey
no, synder is a hack director who is just good at visuals
but it's not a comic book, it's a fucking movie.
no, there was half cooked motivations in the characters and stupid pacing.
Zachary Ross
>misuse of literally Sign of low intelligence.
The plot is batman fights superman then they team up to fight doomsday. not fucking hard
Samuel Lopez
>waah people don't like my shitty kids flick that Means mean they like the other shitty superhero movie
That's what you sound like, not everyone here is a 15 year old faggot
Easton Foster
Why did Lex hate Superman so badly? What did Superman do to him? And how did he know Batman's secret identity?
Jaxson White
You literally didn't understood the movie.
Brody Barnes
>misuses of literally Sign of low intelligence.
Yes, I did. But the movie sucked.
Luke Davis
Oh the irony
Caleb Thomas
Superman had power he'd never be able to acquire and was regarded by the media/people as a god. That was all it took.
It wasn't explained how Lex knew who Batman was. Maybe his Not-Google/Facebook technology helped him. Who knows.
Caleb Richardson
It's irrelevant if you think I understood it or not because that's not the character he's supposed to be and goes against everything we're told about Batman. Batman literally tried to kill someone. That's the exact opposite of his "code"
John Moore
I like following trends too, user. They make me feel like I'm a part of something. Like I have friends. They help me forget about the loneliness. One of my favourite things to do when someone insults me or says that they don't care about superhero movies is to hit caps lock and type 'DCSHILL' or 'YOU'RE MAD'. For that one, brief moment, I forget I'm me. I forget that I don't have any friends. That I don't have a girlfriend. That no one would really care if I died. That I'm wasting my youth hanging onto the coattails of a company that I have nothing to do with. I can pretend I've accomplished something, and cling to the success of an industry that would not be affected one iota if I set myself on fire and jumped off of a bridge. That's the power of Marvel. That's the magic of Disney. I'm cold.
Matthew Mitchell
that's essentially why I didn't like the movie. None of that is established and only the dcucks with the same autism lex had "get it." His whole black and white bullshit about god either being great or good was retarded and forced. Bruce wayne made a better lex.
also >batman is chasing bad guys through some port or whatever >they're shooting rockets at him and he's firing back >superman stops batman and tells him to stop >lets the humans with military weapons doing fishy things that batman was trying to stop get away yeah, that makes sense.
Matthew Williams
You literally didn't.
Matthew Reed
See DCucks don't even understand their own movie.
You completely missed the part where he's bitter against "false Gods" because his daddy used to hit him. Actually watch the movie you're defending. Lex's motivations were clear and strong enough, though heavily rushed, it's the other two that sucked.
Asher Gonzalez
This. They may be owned by the jews at Disney, but Marvel Studios are literally bring run by a bunch of fucking nerds like Feige. Sure, their film making lacks ambition but as far as comic book adaptations go they're decent, and the characters are portrayed faithfully.
I was really hoping that Geoff Johns would save DC films but Wonder Woman is shaping up to be shit. If they haven't given the BvS project to a hack like Snyder they'd be shitting money right now, literally all he needed to do was: >here's batman >here's superman >now they're gonna fight And there, Marvel gets BTFO and people get an enjoyable flick with the two most iconic comic book characters of all time. But no. Snyder had to try to go all '2deep4u' and he treated the movie like his own pseudointellectual playground.
Hudson Jones
>being this buttblasted
Nathan Ross
>Superman had power he'd never be able to acquire and was regarded by the media/people as a god. That was all it took. but it was never established that he was jealous of it or that he hated him for it. The most you can say the movie is concrete about is that he had daddy issues and took it out on superman.
Josiah White
>the great movie the trailers have led fans to believe it might be.
Jaxon Murphy
Then explain to me what I am missing.
>inb4 no I'll let you fumble in ignorance Emperor's new clothes.
Isaiah Hughes
See, you just outed yourself as someone who didn't understood one iota out of the movie.
Batman's arc is precisely about him not being how he used to be and going through a Greek tragedy where he's restored to the Batman we all now, but now perhaps a bit more hopeful overall.
James Davis
>this entire thread Why do you "people" people take capeshit so seriously and take part in petty company wars and whine about box office. You faggots have zero investment in the movies. You morons are obsessing over flicks that designed to sell toys and are marketed to kids, you're obsessing over men and women in spandex playing pretend. Is this entire board filled with dumb teenagers and 30+ year old manchild virgins
Hudson Flores
Except Batman never reverts back to traditional Batman in the movie.
Robert Lee
>Is this entire board filled with dumb teenagers and 30+ year old manchild virgins
Yes
Kevin Roberts
>There wasn't much action and not enough exposition there was too much of it and substance at all, is not even a movie is fucking trailer for 10 more movies
Brody Torres
What exactly is it that you think you've accomplished, user?
Anthony Rogers
I see the assblasted shitskin won't reply, too busy shitting in the street or playing with his happy meal toys
Samuel Evans
>scene with lex >batman didn't kill him >batman is back watch the fucking movie.
Cooper Walker
>You completely missed the part where he's bitter against "false Gods"
No, i didn't missed it. I just gave user the main reasons he hated Superman. Yeah, there's the fact that Lex see Superman as a faker, because his dad was a fake and himself is a faker, but that's less important. The main goals for going after Superman is to overpower him and expose him.
Adam Johnson
Nothing, I'm bored and pissing off some random autist.
Jordan Barnes
>tfw the only DC comics movie in recent years with ANY chance of being half decent is a fucking Lego Movie spinoff
Henry Reed
>but it was never established that he was jealous of it or that he hated him for it.
The gala scene.
Ryan Young
Lex was in jail. Even Batman in this movie doesn't kill people in jail doofus.
>the main reason lex hates false gods is less important Stop defending a movie you don't even understand. You just ruin actual discussion.
Landon Reed
Principal photography ended 6 months agos. Reshoots/pickups happened 2 months ago. At this point, they're probably workprints since the movie has to be ready late May to hit theaters for its June release. The final edit probably won't be until 1 week before sending the film out.
Justin Davis
What you want me to explain. Literally ask away.
Dylan Martinez
I'm not pissed off, I was just curious as to why you were acting like you'd won something. I couldn't care less about Wonder Woman. It doesn't look very good.
Bentley Perez
>Greek tragedy
See, that's why the movie was trash. You don't get to just change established characters and their motivations around because it fits your "vision" better. Batman acted like a fucking idiot and so did Lex. The comic did a much better job.
Tyler Flores
>Lex was in jail. Even Batman in this movie doesn't kill people in jail doofus. >movie goes out of his way to show how batman kills people in jail >your post >typical retarded DCuck