So the point was that they arrive and she figures out some time bullshit and she tells the Chinaman to not attack them...

So the point was that they arrive and she figures out some time bullshit and she tells the Chinaman to not attack them then so they leave anyway? Am I missing something?

The aliens said they need help from humans in 3000 years time. So they're visiting now to lay the foundation of their relationship, so that when the time comes, human race will be willing to help them.

The point of the movie is Amy Adams character relationship with life/death, the plot is just the device for that narrative.

Your analysis is shit. It's a great film. Best sci-fi film in recent memory.

The Arrival makes Interstellar look like Lost in Space.

how did that other ayylmao die?

The explosion, I think
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense because they can see the future so it was completely avoidable

>it was completely avoidable
They can perceive time different but can't change things.

>It doesn't make a whole lot of sense because they can see the future so it was completely avoidable
They can't change it though, if you have a non-linear perception of time, then functionally it's like consciously being at the end of your life and experiencing the events of it as flash backs while you're dying, it all already happened.

Determinism

wow such lore

>the phone call that saved the world.

REMINDER THIS IS A SCREENERFAG THREAD THEREFORE ALL OPINIONS ON THE MEDIUM ARE INVALID
REMINDER THIS IS A SCREENERFAG THREAD THEREFORE ALL OPINIONS ON THE MEDIUM ARE INVALID
REMINDER THIS IS A SCREENERFAG THREAD THEREFORE ALL OPINIONS ON THE MEDIUM ARE INVALID
REMINDER THIS IS A SCREENERFAG THREAD THEREFORE ALL OPINIONS ON THE MEDIUM ARE INVALID
REMINDER THIS IS A SCREENERFAG THREAD THEREFORE ALL OPINIONS ON THE MEDIUM ARE INVALID

oh yea? How does she know about the number of mr chang then?

Because it already happened.

then arent they trying to change whats going to happen 3000 yrs by telling humans they will need help in 300 years?

This isn't like Back to the Future where you can go back in time, erase something and overrite the furture, or create alternate timelines by changing something in the past.

Everything in time is already set. The aliens being saved by the humans in 3000 years is already set, they're just going through the motions that the set timeline demands, ie informing the humans of what they must do, which has already been done 3000 years later.

It's a very linear kind of "time travel", which is ironic considering when you take into account that their language has the power to perceive time in a non-linear manner. You just need to throw out your pre-conceived notion of what time travel means, or other theories as those are not how timelines work in the film's universe regardless if you think that way or not.

90% of the movies use this model of time-travel
10% of the movies use BttF/T1 model of time-travel

somehow #1 is confusing and #2 is not, why?

Because for some reason #2 is harder for people to perceive in their heads, they seem to think it's impossible for time to be a set path that's impossible to deviate from.

It has to do with free will. People can't accept it's just a concept.
>BUT WHAT IF I DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY?

This is true, actually.

Interstellar had a similar theme of time (dilation, death of a daughter, outliving and burying your own child in a sense) and love, but handled it in a very strangely goofy manner.

Arrival's plot device made much more sense and allowed for a much better allegory.

Interstellar and Arrival are very, very different movies though and one is not necessarily better than the other.

But Arrival is much better.

>The Arrival makes Interstellar look like Lost in Space.
Stop it. You know you don't believe this. There literally wasn't even a point to this movie. Had some decent visuals, and tried to coax tears out of me with ridiculously morose music. Other than that, it was pretty forgettable.

dude, you're an idiot

think about what you're typing

But she literally had a choice at the end of the movie.

that's the joke. It's a copypasta meme

Yeah, yeah you are missing a lot of things.

sesame street with aliens.
bullshit asspull ending.

>There literally wasn't even a point to this movie.

lmao great argument, I'm sure you are a highly intellectual argument

when?

a person can't be an argument

The montage (Jeremy Renner voice over) when they suddenly learned their language was kinda weird.
Forest Whitaker's Colonel was only there for exposition to the audience
also
>We need humanities help, let's be as cryptic as possible.

Right before the explosiong one of them swims away while the other pushes the humans out of the room. I guess that is what killed him.

Do they academy people still use DVDs to pick the winners?
Some movies actually don't work on dvd.

In the future.

>>We need humanities help, let's be as cryptic as possible.
Because the only way they could get that help was if the humans learn their language (how to perceive time non-linear).