I think Gronald Klumpf is just about finished at this point

I think Gronald Klumpf is just about finished at this point.

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Have the people making these cartoons ever read a single history book in their life?

Doubt it

>huuur duuur le alt right is le nazi and le allies are alt left

Jesus

I'm not a Nazi but the allies commited a hell of a lot of war crimes, especially the Soviets, but the U.S. and U.K. as well.

If it was literally any other war, or any other enemy they were fighting, history would demonize the allies.

Back in the 1930s, the American left thought Hitler and Stalin were creating a better world instead of this inferior, decadent bourgeois order that led to the Great Depression.

it's not the year 2025 yet

violence against nazis is always justified

Fixed

Dresden

Frumpt is not my president

War isn't supposed to be nice.

>anarcho communists are american g.i.s

why on earth is the other soldier american when the whole point should be the communist/anti-communist dichotomy? and yes, the red army did commit war crimes as well as the nazis did.

>left thought Hitler was creating a better world

You're not a smart man, are you?

As if the alt-left were disciplined warriors trained to fight. The alt-right isn't either; none of these people are willing to improve themselves in order to better their country, they just want to shitpost.

The United States had a eugenics program and wasn't entirely opposed to everything about the Nazis.

They really mostly only got involved because the allies were attacked

>being this dumb

As bad as it is, do you seriously not get the cartoon?

>americans think they "kickd nazi asses"

exactly, I even live near an old mental home that used to torture mentally ill people, back in the 70's and shit.

Dresden is just one of many, it's honestly surprising that it is even remembered.

But what about the civilians that were killed?
What about the japs?

I'm not saying it is.
But look at Vietnam, America at least tried to follow the Geneva convention during that war, but because we broke it a few times we're considered ruthless barbarians because of that war. When America was much more strict about what it fought, and who it killed during that war.

The cartoon makes zero sense. Our troops in WWII were all Marxists? What.

Canadian libfag strikes again.

Is Canada the Sweden of America?

We have only asians and whites. No shitskins or blacks allowed.

The Dresden bombing was a justifiable strategic move. What happened was that in the 1960s, the DDR government and the Soviet Union started circulating the myth that innocent civilians had been intentionally bombed as a means of discrediting the US and Britain.

the "art"piece obviously tries to portray alt right as literally hitler and """alt left""" as GI which makes zero sense since US at the time was mainly isolationist and right leaning centrist.

I always thought Americans are conservative people for the most part.

But somehow they have the most insane left in the whole world.

Just because it was justifiable, doesn't mean it wasn't a war crime.

Bombing London was both of those as well.

Total war is a bitch like that

Like I said, war isn't supposed to be nice. In the Civil War, the Union army burned the Shenandoah Valley so the Confederates couldn't use it for food. A lot of pro-Unionists and even pacifist Mennonites and Quakers lost their farms, it was very sad but necessary to win the war.

hmm, really slices my salami

It's a jab at Trump using the term alt-left to refer to (in MSM's eyes) anyone opposing nazis
google.se/search?q=trump alt left

It is not insinuating US troops were somehow "alt-left"

>But somehow they have the most insane left in the whole world.
It wasn't quite this bad pre-Obama.

Sherman was a monster

I don't understand why people say trump's hands are small, they look larger than average to me

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Get out of my country you freedom-hating traitor.

>anyone opposing nazis
but the alt left claims anyone opposing them is a nazi

wow... this is powerful...

*kills a 100k civilians*
heh, i'm just trying to reunite the country, ya know?

is the american soldier is about to kiss hitler?

also who the f would call burgers from the ww2 "alt-left", they were very much right

Better yet is antifa imagining themselves as big soldiers fighting for freedom lol

Joan of Arc is a symbol of the alt-right.

you havent been near the quebec border recently have you?

>le war rules

there are no rules. maybe individual rules as in "no civilian rape" and so on but that's it.

NatSocs were the alt left of their day, they advocated abolishing the old, decadent capitalist liberalism which was run by Jews. Hitler advocated environmentalism and a welfare state, and free love and children out of wedlock were encouraged so as to breed as many Aryan babies as possible.

Joan of arc was anti-english terrorist that was rightfully burnt at the stake

there is set rules to war like perfidy that are mutually beneficial to all parties.

this

if it wasn't for the Geneva convention we would've genocided Germans after WW2. mate.

We should go to Canada and destroy all of your monuments because they're unamerican

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Psst, nothing personal kid.

>Sherman was a monster

THIS, he was too merciful and his mistakes echo to this day

During the first half of the Civil War, we had too many "nice" generals like McClellan who wanted to fight a gentleman's war and pay back Southerners for destroyed property and all that. Only after total war was implemented in 1864 was victory possible. That included not just trying to fight the Confederate armies, but destroying the South's ability to wage war.

But even then, Lincoln believed vengeance should end with the war and peaceful reconciliation with the South was necessary. On the other hand, extremists like Ben Butler and Thaddaeus Stevens wanted to raze the South to the ground like Carthage and hang Confederate leaders for treason.

and the Brits and Americans

Pretty sure phosphorus-bombing civilians counts as a war crime

>american politics

Payback is a bitch, that doesn't make it a war crime

This man is right, though. How the destruction of some ugly statues could change anything to the fundamental problem ?

Given everything Germany and Japan did in the war to (especially) civilian populations, we were awfully merciful, especially to Japan.

And replace them with what? A statue of Stokely Carmichael or Malcolm X?

Statue of 50 cent hopefully. His early shit was unbeatable.

>killing 300k civilians with atomic bombs is merciful

Americans have a sick idea of mercy.

If we'd invaded Japan, over a million people would die in months or over a year of brutal hand-to-hand combat and street fighting, so yes it was quite merciful given the alternative.

>300k
It was only 160k

>Dresden is just one of many, it's honestly surprising that it is even remembered.

Your cultureless barbarians obliterated the great Dresden opera house where Wagner and Richard Strauss premiered their masterpieces.

German on proxy? or stormfag?

160k immediate deaths + died within first 4 months to radiation poisoning. people kept dying for years after to the frail state they were reduced by the bombs.

Perhaps the Germans should have thought of that before razing Poland to the ground and destroying buildings and cultural treasures.

Or more probably Japan would have slipped out of Truman's greedy hands into Stalin's ones.

>153 years later and beyond the grave you STILL mad

*kills 600,000 of his countrymen just so he can legally own other humans to do his work for him*
What a heroic and glorious tale of bravery against overwhelming odds ;D


But in all seriousness, considering the historical penalties for treason you all got off basically with a slap on the wrist. If this gallant motherfucker hadn't bent you over a barrel when he did the Radical Republicans would have had their say and buttfucked you (figuratively and economically) back to the Stone Age.

Oh, and for the record Sherman was haunted for the rest of his life about what he had to do for his country. "War is hell" originates from him. He witnessed untold human carnage and misery, but did it to keep this country whole. Compare this to the South, who glorified their failure to achieve treason with rose-tinted goggles and without a single hint of remorse for the people they enslaved or a trace of guilt for the hundreds of thousands of families they devastated.

TL;DR don't slander Sherman or I'll go to your house and buttfuck your mom until I become your stepdad

He makes a good point

>Oh, and for the record Sherman was haunted for the rest of his life about what he had to do for his country. "War is hell" originates from him

The full quote was "Those who howl for more war and more desolation and more vengeance are almost always those who have never seen it themselves. War is hell."

God punish C*nada.

>if you dare criticize america you must be a ... NAZI, an islamic terrorist, or a communist! AMERICA FUCK YEA B2B WORLD WAR CHAMPS

Everytime a discussion involves American wrongdoing.

When the Vietnam War started, polls showed that Americans under 35 were much more enthusiastic about the war than their elders who'd fought in WWII and Korea and actually seen what war is like.

most of the bombers were British m8

and it's the fact that he is calling us cultureless barbarians because we bombed something that is relevant to German culture.

No, I like Wagner

pathetic excuse to fire-bomb a town

allies started bombing civilians first

>allies started bombing civilians first
>started bombing civilians first
>bombing civilians first
>bombing first
>first

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain

why average alt righter is so cringeworthy

I'll give you a little tip: Romanticization of the South and the Lost Cause myth originated mostly in the early 20th century by writers like Thomas Dixon who were part of the generation that came up after the Civil War and didn't remember it themselves (Dixon was an infant when Lee surrendered at Appomattox).

During the 30 years after the war, when it was still fresh in memory, there was no such romanticization of the Southern cause, most Americans just saw them as slaveowners and traitors to the government. By the time Thomas Dixon was writing, the war generation were getting old and starting to die off and their kids, who didn't actually live through it, had this candy-coated idea of the Southern cause.

Honestly I don't give a damn about the politics of the war, nor do I feel sympathy for the Southerners, or Northerners. But it was a damn sad war, brothers fighting brothers, innocent people getting killed for no real reason. It's easily the most fucked up war in American history.

why is the average antifa jiggling in the wind?

me on the left :^)

Watch your mouth tough guy

>During the 30 years after the war, when it was still fresh in memory, there was no such romanticization of the Southern cause, most Americans just saw them as slaveowners and traitors to the government
Every presidential election cycle until McKinley's election pretty much involved shit flinging about what the candidate did or didn't do in the Civil War, kind of like every presidential election since 1992 has involved shit flinging about one or both candidates' actions during the Vietnam War.

>But what about the civilians that were killed?
What about the japs?
It was a total war.
It's over now.
It is important that we don't forget but the allies aren't to blame for what they did in order to defeat the axis

Yeah and he did reunite a country

They weren't civilians btw they were traitors and Sherman didn't go far enough

I know.

>every person in the south believed that secession was the correct thing to do

You realize a large portion of his victims were former slaves?

nice meme m9, here's what actually happened.

Author is a Brit, J.M. Spaight. He is a mouth-frothingly rabid anti-German author I picked him so you can't accuse me of being a stormfag.


>The British bombers were designed to bomb cities, he said, while the “Teutonic mind” never even considered such a policy, and instead viewed an air force merely as a tool to “blast open” a path for attacking armies.

>It was, Spaight said, left to the British to “realise the full potential” of saturation civilian bombing, and goes on to reveal that the decision to bomb civilians on a repeated, extensive and massive scale, completely independently of any ground-based military operations, was taken by Winston Churchill soon after he became Prime Minister in May 1940.

>Hitler, Spaight fully admitted, opposed this tactic and actually refused to retaliate for over three months while the German cities were bombed, hoping, as the German leader said in a speech on September 4, 1940, that “Churchill would stop this nonsense.”

>This belief that Churchill would stop the bombing is dismissed as “stupid” by Spaight, who went on to describe as “pacifists” and “socialists” those Britons who objected to the bombing of civilians.

>Hitler then finally retaliated, and hence the “blitz.” But, as Spaight points out, in comparison to what had already been thrown at German cities by the Royal Air Force, and to what occurred in 1943 and 1944 (the bombing of Hamburg, Cologne and Munich—where, Spaight boasted, the fires could be seen 150 miles away), this “blitz” was actually minor.

Grungle mofft is not my premier

Do not care, the entire south deserved to be razed

Why does this happen to antifascists when they are unable to hide behind police and throw rocks?

>They weren't civilians btw they were traitors and Sherman didn't go far enough
In the end, the only Confederate leader to be hanged was the commandant of Andersonville Prison, Henry Wirz, even though the nightmarish conditions in the camp weren't really his fault, but someone had to be blamed for it and Wirz wasn't a particularly lovable guy, plus he was an immigrant with a bad accent and poor English skills.

Jefferson Davis ended up never being put on trial for treason mostly because it was obvious that no court in Virginia would convict him. He did however lose his US citizenship and died a man without a country. In his later years, he was a revered figure in the South, people managing to forget how unpopular he actually was during the war.

>We did the exact same thing but harder because that's what good guys do

Really putting the word hero in war-hero

A lot of Lincoln's hopes for peace died with him, radical Republicans in Congress set out to exact vengeance on the South by denying white Southerners the right to vote or be represented in Congress. That may have not been wholly unjustified, but at the same time they tried to go too far and too fast with slave emancipation. Slaves who couldn't even sign their own name were lined up and registered to vote. Most of it was for cynical reasons of partisan politics to buy votes for the Republican Party, in fact the votes of ex-slaves were the main reason Grant got elected as president in 1868, with just the white vote, Horatio Seymour probably would have won.

just go on fox news twitter and see if he is "done"

he still has rabid group of fanatics following him. once i am done with my schooling, i am getting the fuck out of this red state

No you must stay on the frontline and fight the drumpkins toe to toe.

nice source m8

Also

All 3 of those bombings combined killed only around 46,000 people, while yes this is more than the Battle of Britain there is one key difference.

The majority of the casualties were in Hamburg, with around 42,000, however it also wiped out a massive amount of the capability for Hamburg to produce for the war, making this bombing a complete success and completely justified by a strategic viewpoint.

However, the battle of Britain caused 40,000 fatal casualties, and 50,000 injuries, yet it didn't affect London, or any major British cities, industrial capability in the long run. Thus making those 40,000 deaths completely useless.

I bet they don't teach you this at school in the U.S. do they?

Kids these days grow up believing shitty movie narratives.