Globalism is a good idea in the long term right...

Globalism is a good idea in the long term right? I think reason we don't like it now is because our countries are better than everyone elses and they drag us down. But in like 300 years we will be one big global happy family.

Am I missing something?

I don't want to be part of one big global happy family

When you have the rich and educated only having a couple of kids while the poor and uneducated are breeding like rabbits, you'll eventually see unbalance and unrest to the point of revolution/collapse. It's all nice in theory, but it takes too long to implement and requires too much decency from human beings: especially poor and stupid human beings.

Also the globalist owners are corrupt as fuck and thinking only in the short term for themselves and not giving a shit about what happens to 99.9% of us.

>Am I missing something?
Birth rates of whites compared to others.

I don't think you are wrong OP.

As it is now though, filthy jew bureaucrats hold the strings. They have their own interests in mind.

Here's the thing globalism looks great on paper but the thing that no one wants to acknowledge is that globalism can only work with fully developed nations. And what people are doing is importing less developed people's en masse to their countries which drags them down. These peoples are fundamentally incompatible to what developed nations wish to achieve.

In equally simplistic language, if we spend 100 years pulling everyone up to our level, we will all be long dead before anything worthwhile is accomplished.

It would probably be fine if everyone was white or japanese.

Considering the current shape of the human gene pool, globalization would destroy civilization.

No, I don't want to be forced be some member of some global government. I want everyone to have a choice about where they want to live and how it is governed. States should be split even more.

>thinks we're gonna make it 300 years
we're in peak oil bud

Do leftist politics inevitably amount to wishful thinking?

Yeah you're missing the part where there's one government that every person on the planet is beholden to.

I already have spics in my family
I will move to the god damn middle east before a nigger joins it

is it already over for us

Globalism as we're trying to force it really isn't going to work. Forced integration is awful. What can work is a global system of hierarchy and subservience. Powerful nations aid and protect weaker ones, the nations with higher manpower work their land for resources to give to the more powerful and advanced nations. As long as nations get to keep their culture and live in prosperity and the individuals of those nations are judged based on their merit and are allowed to leave if they will be better suited in another nation they will be happy with the situation. The word "nation" is used intentionally here, this is not trying to mash everyone together into a single entity, this is multiple entities working together.

>we will be one big global happy family.

Only an Idealistic 13yr old would think this is possible

This. A fuckload of niche countries beats one giant "one-size-fits-some" country by miles any day. Give me some fucking variety.

all will be well, and all will be well, and all manner of things will be well.

Aryan globalism may be doable, but not trans racial/continental.

The happy part. You will have no power, or voice, or rights.You'll have lost any sovereignty, any connection to your past, and with that no future.

The new world government will be a smart contract in Ethereum.

Vitalik Buterin will be commie god of earth.

Nation-states are competition. Competition is necessary for prosperity.

whites + Japanese i guarantee you we would colonize our solar system by next few centuries

Globalism is putting every student in the advanced class and thinking the naturally smart and studious kids are going to bring them up to their level. What ends up happening is the niggers constantly disrupt the class and keep us from colonizing space and shit.

think about nations as experiments, if one goes wrong, there is another one that can continue, if there is only 1 and it goes wrong we are fucked.

No it is an awful thing. It means you can't rise above the shittiest place in the whole world, and if it is shitty where you live you need to leave Earth to escape.

Globalism and socialism are the next logical progressions in human advancement. Sup Forums is unironically on the wrong side of history.

this is the end goal of globalism

Is it possible to buy this in a companion set with 1984?

I've heard they're like heads and tails of the same coin.

No, as long as oligarchies are able to seize power via the iron laws of political economics then globalism cannot be allowed to succeed.

>1984
>Everything is brutal and totalitarian
>double think was coined from this book
>Government obscures the date and hides all maner of history so everyone lives in a "present"
>Artificial wars between other states implied to be all controlled by the same people to force a reason for industry
>Essentially everything scary and manipulative

>Brave New World
>Society spoiled with technology, drugs and sex with reproduction being looked down upon
>Caste systems
>Everything we love is being used to suppress us.

Right now it's sort of a mix, everyone is complacent with their life style, even the poorer folk.

Plenty of food, entertainment, and all manner of distractions including junk media. All of which keeps people complacent and unwilling to focus on or grow alerted by lose of privacey and freedom.

The 1984 part is the spooky NWU shit, liberal uses of double think and nonsensical ideologies based on emotion and moral highground, emphasis on globalism and destruction of national sovereignty.

Globalism will never work because most of the world genetically sucks.

Yes but the way it is now we wont have based vitalik running our govt.

Enlighten me on this meme.

Jews won't be so nice to the rest of the world when they are the dominant race.

Whites are the superior master as Africa is discovering.

It's not a meme brother. Its the perfect future that we may never know. The most technologically sound way to achieve true freedom and self governance. Join us brother, we will go down with the ship if we must.

When will you learn that globalism is impossible over large territory. Even if you had one race and one government you cant effectivelly rule the whole fucking planet let alone more planets in space in the future. People will naturally band together with different ideas and would form resistance or independence from the globalists. It will all crumble down in time. The only way to achieve globalism is having mindless slaves or some transhumanistic revolution where we override our DNA somehow.

globalism is great
however what creatures count as human should be redefined by objective conditions

This.

You could have had globalisation, albeit it would have been British, French, Dutch, Portuguese (when they were still white) and Spanish (see Portugal). Instead though it was "evil" and the benevolent warmongering Jews took over and, like always, put greed before anything. Other than the fact they breathe air and look human, the Jew isn't. He has no other characteristics that would determine him to be human. They're literally a personified disease. Prove me wrong.

Protip: You can't.

GLOBAL trade, communication and sharing of knowledge and culture yes

allowing other people to displace you however is all you ever going to get

> we'll all be one happy global family

That's not the way it works.

In the long term it actually gets worse.
What system do you know of that only gets less corrupt with more people and time?
It's already corrupt, it's going to get way worse.

also who's going to govern us?
just look at people still going
'hurrr, well technically the new prime minister of the UK after Cameron isnt obligated to respect the referendum'

Globalism is a rebranding of imperialism, with the parasitic ruling elite made more difficult to identify and attack.

Decentralized globalism brothers. Ruled by none yet ruled by all.

The whole world cannot be governed under global laws like that. It will open up a way for coalitions to dominate the entire world, giving themselves more power and centralizing.
Independent nations with a world power above all others works best as long as you can keep the country from losing its values.

>Decentralized globalism brothers.

1. AKA Anarchy... Is not going to work because the rich will create some kind of governance to protect their assets

2. Whites are an absolute minority, "ruled by all" means whites will be ruled by blacks and Asians just because of their number

This jewish libertarianism meme has been debunked long time ago, welcome newfag

>But in like 300 years we will be one big global happy family.

How does a corporation colonizing a nation's workforce and then throwing them away after 10 years only to move onto a more poorer nation to restart the process create 'one big global happy family'?

everyone cant live by the same laws
some people like living in China, some in USA, some in Russia
globalism just means spreading liberal cancer everywhere

Break our laws and lose your ETH, not just currency but your voice and power in this perfect world. Vitalik wills it.

Be it they accumulate more ETH Vitalik wills the blacks shall rule. I don't forsee it.

Globalism ensures consumers can get goods at their best prices, and people who most need work can get it. It's simple supply and demand. Ideally, you prevent child labor and the like, but first world countries are benefiting from it. The working man, the NEET, and everyone else.

We're just failing to unionize the new service jobs, and demanding our fair share of the wealth. We have this myth that no-skill manufacturing jobs are especially desirably, when they mainly only are when laws and unions stand to protect the people working them.

If you want a healthy middle-class, insist on being middle-class. Stand together with your fellows. Make your demands against those with the wealth in solidarity.

That kind of world is a shit dystopia.
You have shit for vision.

>Independent nations with a world power above all others

Who elects this world power?
How often will you have elections?
Who will pay for the elections?
Who makes sure that the people who finance the elections don't want anything in return?

>300 years
I will be dead 4 times over by then

Better than the world we live in today brother. It may be cliche but power does reside in the top 1%. Freedom is not a guarantee in any world system we have today. In Vitalik's paradise there would be no option to take away freedom; it simply wouldn't be possible.

>ethnic egalitarianism

we need borders. that doesnt mean the world cant work together. globalism in the terms you are hearing it now is referring to the global elite controlling all the wealth on this planet

No, the only countries mixing are the white ones. The rest of the world aren't globalizing. They will be culturally and racially homogenous while the west has to commit demographic suicide for a retarded ideology.

Maybe in 1000 years or so we might have a functioning Global Nation but you're right, there's no way we could have one now, the nations of the world are too unequal.

Globalism will only function properly when space and upper atmospheric travel are affordable and quick.

There is no fixing people with laws. Laws only serve to deter bad things from happening.
The problem with the world is a lack of morals.
Only the people themselves can pick themselves up from that failure.
An artificial fix simply kills humanity.
It's a pointless victory.

>Make your demands against those with the wealth in solidarity.

Welcome on Sup Forums berniebro.
I have news for you: consumers don't get the best price, they get the price that companies can demand without hurting turnover.
This markup is the reason why there are people that are more wealthy in the first place.
Your ideology is the prime example for enslaving the goyim: outsourcing labor so people can afford less, that results in being dependent on cheap imports, and for the people who still have work you demand to join a (((union))), to somehow get back the money that the (((merchants))) made by outsourcing.

Then the world should kill itself. There will be a Third World War that will destroy the west. I hope it comes within the decade and all the nations of the west are glassed.

>Globalism is a good idea in the long term right?

it objectively is.

just look at history we started with having just 10 people families wandering around the world, then we transformed into villages.. cities.. tribes... countries... its somehow invadable but we can't rush it either. first we need to make sure that humans around the world have a similar wealth status. with our technology it shouldn't take more then 200 years.

Give me a reason why we should drag other countries to our level so they can become a threat to us and damage the environment even more.

Defeatist filth.
Be sure to fight on the frontlines. There will be no need for you once we win.

Because my feelings, racism, white guilt, religion, communism, and human rights.

If we're not colonizing the outer solar system (at a bare minimum) in 300 years, we're completely fucked.

>let's all live, build, travel, survive, colonize the space together
>ok
>five years later
>fuk u you don't believe in my special God
>we holy war now

>Am I missing something?
Logic to back up your conclusion.

We don't need the entire world for that.
What are you going to colonize it with?
3rd worlders?
They'll destroy everything and probably die.

>our countries are better than everyone elses and they drag us down

what country do you have left? the USA is Israels workhorse.

Yeah, but holy war in space.

Dune is kickass.

Obviously not.

The first (and second, and likely third) wave of colonists will be the healthiest, most intelligent specimens of humankind.

When you start a family, the family does not replace the self. You are still morally obligated to provide and look after yourself.

When the family joins a community, it is still morally obligated to look after itself. The family unit most strive to be productive and functioning even in the community.

When the community joins a nation, the community must still look to its own members first. If the community fails through negligence of its constituents, it is an immoral act.

When a state joins a confederation, each state must still first, and foremost, assure its communities that they will be taken care of, and that their well beings are of utmost importance.

Now we are hitting the globalism level. It is the next step of social structure. We have achieved a society where every level of structure is accounted for, and we can form a bigger tribe. Coalitions of confederations. Globalism.

And the first things that you fuckers do is upend every level of societal structure to try to fit other nations that have not reached that same level yet into this new level.

The individual is on welfare. The family is decimated. Communities lack social cohesion, the nation is in debt and lacks production, and the federations of states is corrupt and looks only to its top members.

This is not how humanity will reach the coalition of confederations level, this "globalism." It has to be from the ground up, not top down acceptance. We're close, we really are, with a lot of nations. But not all nations are ready for this level, and forcing it has destroyed it and set us back decades, if not hundreds of years.

Globalism would be awesome if people were all the same.

We are not though. Locations, climates, and means of survival have shaped us through evolution to be different.

Image south Africa getting the go ahead to flood into Europe tomorrow. Those two entirely different cultures would eventually clash its inevitable. History has taught us this happens every time.

cultures and ideologies are too different to work in as overarching and nebulous a governance like that.

>first we need to make sure that humans around the world have a similar wealth status

How high will this wealth status be compared to the current US GDP?

Where will you get the energy and resources to get this gdp for everyone on the planet?

Protip: Instead of repeating jewish utopia bullshit actually look at worldwide population numbers

this

what's the reason to live, duh? of course we might as well just suicide but those who don't feel like that, have (usually) the altruistic desire the make the world a better place, for the future generations.

also the wonders of capitalism make it so that, helping others can be mutually beneficial.

You know that increasing global wealth massively increases global pollution, energy consumption and resource destruction, right?

Only the stupid become altruistic, and the people who use it for marketing. Even Gates & co are targeting population descrease with their actions.

Smart people know that earth has not enough resources, pollution capacity to increase global wealth to even 20% of US gdp

Globalism kills individualism
To globalize is to paint everyone with the broadest brush of regulation/law possible and there are too many cultures that are incompatible with others for it to work, lest you kill individuality... People know this and are trying to promote interracial dating so eventually there will only be one type of person which will pave the way for global unity. I don't want to be in a worldwide family. I want us to be cooperatively segregated instead.

We must work toward securing our individual values, cultures, and identities

But we don't get to pick our own country as it is? Not without sacrifice atleast.

Globalism will only work when everyone follows the same religion, culture and values (of the West). Until then~

Globalism would steamroll every world culture and destroy all human diversity. It would rob humanity of all its ambition and emotion, replacing these with feebly materialistic and nihilistic drives implanted by the new global consumer culture. At the top would rule a party of elites who have no goals other than their own enrichment and megalomaniacal fulfillment.

It is the worst possible outcome for the future of humanity and must be resisted, no matter how many shiny worthless trinkets and trendy street shops the globalists wave at us in an attempt to distract us from their destructive influence.

You guys seem to be missing a really important point, competition.
Globalism is a paveway for massive monopolies. The problem with the EU is that it has WAAAY too many regulations that cater to these massive corporations, thus effectively removing smaller competitors.
Less competition=higher prices
More competition=lower prices
You rednecks NEED to stop using the "MUH CULTURE" argument as it isn't the only problem here. Globalism=Worldwide Monopolies. We shouldn't fight for the rich asshole's money, the rich should fight themselves for ours.

>300 years
in 300 years we're all dead, earth it's probably dead too
fuck off

we warhammer now?

You must choose
>Unequal sharing of fortune
>Equal sharing of misery

Globalists and socialists choose the latter.

How about the fact that the happy utopia you are talking about is completely impossible unless every culture and race ceases to exist. There would be no war or strife, but then there would also be no freedom, no diversity, and no specialties among ourselves that makes life interesting.

Plus economically, globalism is only set up to ensure the current top performing international businesses maintain a steady monopoly around the world. So philosophically it is nihilistic, but in reality it's a complete scam.

No no.

We Dune now, which is far superior. Beware the Bene Gesserit, but be nice to the Spacing Guild.

Ethereum allows the creation of DAOs (decentralized autonomous organizations), which are essentially financial contracts that are enforced with computer code. So imagine a company DAO. Shareholders vote on how company funds are to be spent, contractors can be hired, and goods produced.

Some people toy with the idea that a government can be a DAO. That's the basic idea.

Bitcoin is superior to Ethereum though. Bitcoin will always reign supreme.

Globalism is atm simply a way for elite 1st worlders to exploit 3rd worlders at the expense of middle and lower class 1st worlders. So if you're in the first world, and not elite, it's in your best interest to not support globalism.

Let me tell you a truth that our shitty boomer generation parents figured out, after they broke from their own brainwashed parents. The only life that matters is your stupid life and maybe your kids+grandkids. Are you such a fucking Buddha that you'd sacrifice your quality of life for "humanity"? You don't even know what humanity is; nobody does. You don't know if it's worth that sacrifice Everybody makes the selfish choice. The old don't want to die swarmed by immies. The young think they'll see to live this brighter, idealistic tomorrow.

Basically I don't give a fuck about my great great grandchild whatsoever. He might be a complete dick. I give a fuck about my son. So you make decisions that impact that short term... that's humanity.

I agree with you, but I think someone should also be concerned with their community. The problem is this only works if their community is full of people like them with similar values and traditions. This is precisely why diversity and liberal democracies don't work, and Macintyre is right in that we need a return to smaller, cohesive communities founded on a shared 'practice' and 'tradition.'