China Claims World’s Most Powerful Supercomputer 7th Year In A Row
China has been named the home of the fastest supercomputer for the 7th year in a row.
But for the first time, and what makes this year’s choice unique, is the fact that this year’s winning computer has won using only Chinese designed processors.
The computer based in the National Supercomputing Center in Wuxi, and named Sunway TaihuLight was designed and developed by the Chinese National Research Center of Parallel Computer Engineering & Technology.
With an ability to process 93 petaflops that also makes it just about three times faster than the previous record setter, the Tianhe-2, also Chinese, which was clocked at being able to process 33.85 petaflops.
The TaihuLight can perform approximately a quadrillion calculations a second, which is much faster than the Tianhe-2, built with US designed processors can achieve. In theory, the TaihuLight could achieve peak a peak performance of 124 petaflops.
That China has been trying to develop a 100 petaflop system (or close enough for it not to really matter) isn’t exactly new, well, news, but it was widely anticipated that the Chinese would use US based Intel company chips to reach the fabled 100 petaflop barrier.
However, the US banned Intel from shipping the Xeon chips to Chinese super computer manufacturers last year because they claimed that last year’s winner, the Tianhe-2 was being used for predictive simulations to do with nuclear explosive experiments.
The irony of the embargo is that China just went ahead and upped its own processor development.
As well as claiming the top spot for the world’s most powerful supercomputer for yet another year, 2016 also marks the first year that China has surpassed the US for the first time as being the country with highest number of the world’s most powerful supercomputers, albeit only just. The US has 165, China has 167.
Other countries to make the top 10 included Japan, Germany, Switzerland, and Saudi Arabia.
Henry Allen
How is it a race when America is talking about the distant future, while China is doing it RIGHT now?
The US ban has merely delayed China by a mere matter of months, and instead of one exascale with US tech, as China's upgrades would have ben this year, 2016 will use not just one domestically designed product, but likely a different one for each project, in addition to Chinese designed technology and advancements.
If anything, the US's schizophrenic, paranoid foreign policies have just helped speed up Chinese advanced tech development and adoption, and caused the US lose quite a contract and gain competitors.
Benjamin Brooks
Well the Chinese children go to school 7 days a week so.
Including homework, yes. Chinese always have endless homework to do.
Smarter than you are.
Joshua Smith
China owns the US.
The US is owned by China.
Angel Gonzalez
good for China... i hoping to see some great advances in medical and tech fields in the coming years...
Zachary James
so what the fuck does it compute
Dominic Lopez
This is great news. Should mean the market is more competitive now.
Isaiah Reed
Can it play Cyrsis 1?
Oliver Brooks
hello there mr. ping pong ching ching, how much are you being paid for this?
Ian Kelly
Hey you chink retard--we can all see that you are the same poster.
Justin Jones
50 cent per post
Grayson Scott
Based on technology stolen from US and European firms over and over again.
Joshua Bell
The reason technology leaks occur is so that competition and development fuel economic growth, otherwise the US would stagnate atop the #1 pedestal and foreign countries can not use their population and resources to drive the creation of wealth.
Jaxon Garcia
Can it support my minecraft server?
Caleb Gray
1) It's literally the design of the KNL 2) It's geared towards Linpack (useless shit). With HPCG this computer performs rather bad (it achieves 0.5% of that perf, against 3% for other ones). 3) It's interconnect seems rather bad 4) The USA is building Aurora, a supercomputer with superior Xeon Phi (72 cores) chips, it will have more node, and Omnipath Gen 2. 5) Such big SC are useless. We do not know how to use them well because the failure rate is high, the amount of parallelism required is giganormous, ... Even the top european and american codes wouldn't scale well to such cases so chinks codes are out of the question. 6) What is impressive though is it's enegry consumption. Same one as Tianhe2, which means 3 times more efficient. That's because the precessors are really simple to the max and a relatively low amount of performance, but this is the big achievement of this SC. The chip seem too simple to get actual nice performance with more memory bound code or with lots of branches etc...
We see you are the same poster in this entire thread, chink. Get yourself a proxy or throw a few sheckels to the JIDF to learn how to properly shill.
Jeremiah Lee
Ballistic missile reentry simulations. Object radar signature detection. Nuclear explosion simulations, ... That's what Tianhe 2 was for anyway, the chinese are mostly doing military research and have overall very weak research output in the field.
At least the K computer of Japan serves for dank blood flow and full heart simulation (RIKEN's work).
Anthony Gonzalez
Kek, buttpaine much
Kayden Long
Didn't the US nuked that computer like a year ago?
Chase Miller
>Still cannot run crysis 3 on ultra
Sebastian Peterson
Soon we'll actually be able to play Dwarf Fortress.
Jayden Garcia
clarification: "Leftist" technology stolen
They're and you're welcomed
Anthony Adams
given how much you guys rely on western companies to give you the edge, is it not worrying that the western world is growingly increasingly individualistic (to a harmful extent) and throwing aside the reasons as to why these companies stay in the western world?
Do you want to see Intel, amd and NIVIDIA move to china?
Dylan Smith
Dermezel, is that you?
Brayden Walker
Hello chink internet defense force
Thomas Diaz
can it run minesweeper?
Asher Collins
They always "claim" shit but its never real or its real but it doesn't work.
Cheap chink shit btfo
Ayden Jones
damn how meny gtx 1080s are in there
Christian Gutierrez
>crysis still looks like a slideshow on low specs
Lucas Martinez
None. If anything it'd be Pascal P40 or K80.
Jordan Stewart
lol, that was literally my only post in the thread. Strange how many people in this thread feel threatened by this when really it should be good all around.
Is Linpack somehow less useful than Lapack (my understanding is that they both implement the same shit)?
Do you know what they're doing with it?
Carson Torres
Lol what are they even going to use it for? Processing takeaway orders?
Austin Hernandez
"Aanndd theeennn?"
Carter Richardson
Linpack, in fact HPL or High Performance Linpack is a benchmark basically computing a LU factorization (partial pivoting) fully optimized with MPI etc bullshit statically (berk, static is so 80s) so that it's somewhat portable, but you need to tune everything to adapt things to your core when you port it. The aim of HPL is precisely to measure a computer's performance in somewhat the best conditions. The reason is that this algorithm generates a ton of very sweet matrix multiplications which are the most efficient thing you can do on current computers. Basically you load a matrix, of size n times n elements (n^2) and you do an order of (n^3) operations, so you have very few data movements compared to the amount of operations you do. Since data movement sucks, and keeps sucking more and more in comparison to modern core performance evolution this is very easy to get beast like performance out of it.
Lapack is something else entirely. It's an interface for complex blas operations which has many different implementations (vendors have their own lapack implementation, like Intel for example inside the MKL library). So, inside that you find some generic LU implementation in various forms, you find cholesky factorization and whatnot else. The goal of this library is to have a generic interface and suitable implementations to easily solve mathematical problems by combining all of those algorithms together to make more complex operations. Most probably internally Linpack uses some order of lapack calls btw.
Jose Ortiz
Note that both Lapack and Linpack come from Jack Dongarra, the american researcher which pioneered many of such things (efficient maths on top of modern computers, and eventually supercomputers).
Jose Jones
what is buttpaine
Adrian Taylor
The people in this thread claiming samefag, and that China is butthurt, are seemingly less intelligent/more annoying than anyone who is samefagging, etc.
Parker Walker
Who cares though? What do supercomputers even do besides beat people at chess 30 years ago?
Levi Cooper
China will be #1 in everything, in about ~30 years. This fact is a threat to US national security, so fun times ahead.
Owen Perez
They're used for almost anything in our world.
The cars you drive, the wheels of your cars, the tires of your car, the planes you fly, the medicine that saves you, the military that protects you, the banking economy, all of this (and a ton more) are optimized thanks to supercomputers of some sort and highly advanced simulation codes.
>lol, that was literally my only post in the thread >10 posts by this id
seriously, if china is paying you to shitpost then I want in
Colton Murphy
>China will be #1 in everything, in about ~30 years.
That's what they said about the Japanese in the 1980s too
Ryder Baker
this kek, i laughed at the end of american psycho when they are saying japan will own most of the US in 10 years (American psycho is set in 1988)
Noah Perez
They won't. Their economy is crumbling. They have been in a recession for many years and are successfully hiding it with lies. They are unable to keep their population down, there will be some sort of actual population they're just delaying it with all the reforms. Epicurianism on such a grand scale will only create a lot of desire for more freedom (and degeneracy).
Their collectivities have massive debts (which are hidden to the world because these aren't properly reported). They have several bubbles ready to explode in their face, most notable the construction and housing bubble. They have actual ghost towns and even in beijing they created grand standing apartment buildings which are mostly vacant and not properly reimbursed. They push those on the shoulders of gullible old people.
Well, the USA is in a similar states but it has more arguments than China for its stability.
Jack Ward
Im sure the results are faked. China cant achive anything without faking it or stealing designs from other countries.
Jonathan Kelly
>copying the equipment from other countries and replacing it to get your name on it Sound like China
Gabriel Murphy
>93 petaflops
To compare the human brain is thought to be able to process at 15 petaflops per second. At only 15 watts of power.
Jose Bell
The amount of flops isn't so important it's what you do with it. We waste our brain for our eyes and we do not have precise control over its use. You can do factually what you want with a computer.
I mean, it's dandy and all but the comparison is quite meaningless.
Josiah Allen
Jesus christ this is embarassing, did you get dropped as a baby or something
Adam Williams
>ids on Sup Forums This is the weirdest troll I've seen in a while. I see. I've only worked with machine learning stuff that requires some BLAS implementation and Lapack. I had thought that Linpack was just the predecessor for Lapack that ran faster on older architectures. Looked up the wiki page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway_TaihuLight >Purpose >Oil prospecting, life sciences, weather forecast, industrial design, drug research Neat.
lolwat?
Blake Cook
itt: fat americans mad because China is stripping away their superpower status
Levi Anderson
>You can do factually what you want with a computer.
Naturally.
Processing visual information takes up 1/8th of our brain while for a computer you just need a camera, some ram and an old beat up 386.
We cant use our whole brain completely and we have no access to optimize processes, with a computer we do and many low levele functions of the human brain have already been replicated and have seen their efficiency raised by a million percent.
The trouble is putting it all together in one functioning unit which can autonomously serve a purpose.
Michael White
Sure buddy
Henry Roberts
I attended ISC, the conference where the information on the chink machine was published. I work in this field, though not on huge machines.
Basically everyone at the conference says both the US and China and possibly larger European countries have bigger machines that they keep secret. Also, most banks have systems that would easily be top 100 but they don't bother running LINPACK and giving away details on their infrastructure. The only people thinking the top500 list is important for geo-politics are not working in high performance computing.
Adrian Watson
But can it even touch Uchiha Madara?
Dylan Perez
>ids on Sup Forums >This is the weirdest troll I've seen in a while.
Probably because you've never been here dumb-dumb
Connor White
I've been here since 2004. Though moot implemented ids on the board for some time they were taken away and we are currently on forced anonymous. Only containment boards have IDs right now.
Parker Gray
Hehe, China numba 1 soon and not just DESIGNATED like India.
Enjoy your H.Clinton Murricans aka Merkel Turbo v.2.0
Noah Gomez
Please stop this. I don't know if you really are a pathetic excuse for a paid China-shill or someone who's merely pretending to be one but come on.
>I've been here since 2004
Yeah sure buddy, you really act like it. You must be telling the truth, especially since Sup Forums has only been around for a couple of years.
Fuck of faggot.
Adrian Williams
>lol, that was literally my only post in the thread. Strange how many people in this thread feel threatened by this when really it should be good all around.
hey buddy, you just blow in from stupid town?
Benjamin Harris
all this talking is making me thirsty, and hungry.
Angel Sanchez
>Sup Forums has only been around for a couple of years. kek
Jason Smith
I started lurking at the end of 05. I don't even know when it started before that. So stfu summer fag and gtfo.
Julian Lopez
>HAHA JUST KIDDING IM ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED SO CLEVER XD
how lame
>durr the sky is green look at how dumb I am
Luke Torres
>14 posts by this ID
Bentley Sanchez
look I can troll too!
*clears throat* >politicians don't only care about themselves
Asher Campbell
supercomputing hasn't been a la mode in years. Aside from select massively parallelizable problems, most tasks won't be solved efficiently by supercomputers
Josiah Sullivan
>CHINA CLAIMS
CHINA CLAIMS A LOT OF THINGS
LIKE NO LEAD IN CHILDRENS TOYS
Joshua Powell
Nigga please. It's not fashionable anymore but any big industry player has HPC. It's also used to drill oil (locate where to drill). It's literally everywhere, in any field.
Connor Russell
But can it run Dwarf Fortress in a 10k year generated largest possible map, in a 16x16 embark area?
Aiden Green
Wat? I don't get you.
I'm just lettin you know man, Sup Forums has been around for more then a couple of years.
But keep raging on.
Joshua Powell
So what are those Chinese chips?
Just a customized ARM design, or did they actually design the ALU's themselves?
Austin Hill
-China claims NOTHING HAPPENED on 6/4/1989. -China claims they are defending human rights. -China claims Mao is the "savior" of China. -China claims One Nation Two System is all and well in Hong Kong. -China claims we sent "volunteer" to help North Korea in Korea War. -China claims they've shut down all labor camps -China claims they overthrow the Republic in 1951. -China claims no human right lawyer has ever been arrest. -China claims there are no corruption in the CCP, EVER! Would you like me to continue ?
Wyatt Robinson
神威 shouda chouda become "God SWAG" not "Sunway". mainlander engrlish
James Wilson
>CHINA >DESIGNING ANYTHING THEMSELVES >NOT LITERALLY STEALING EVERYTHING FROM THE WEST VIA SPYING AND ESPIONAGE THEN SLAPPING SOME HALF ASSED SHIT TOGETHER AND IGNORING ALL PATENTS
Aaron Ortiz
They said they designed everything from the bottom up starting with very simple chips that were pretty bad back then.
I'm doubtful. Mostly because the stats (64c, 1.45 or so GHz) etc are very similar to the Xeon Phi. I'd like to know if it uses a ring bus to link the cores as the first version or a 2D tile like configurable one as now. Also what about MCDRAM.
To summarize, the cores themselves probably, the whole chip I'm really doubtful.
Easton Evans
>Country that makes the worlds computer chips >Has fastest computer
I don't think mainland China makes any chips for the western market.
Wyatt Collins
>chinks capable of innovation Stripping US tech to the core and refurbishing it with a chink label doesn't make it your own.
Levi Perez
You know Sup Forums has IDs, right?
Ryan Rogers
the autism is strong with this one also sage
Charles Martin
>This thread
Ryder Nelson
what is the purpose of these machines then ? what do they do with such tremendous horsepower avalaible ?
Jaxson Gomez
>mfw the 93-petaflop Chinese Supercomputer is actually the one doing all this samefagging
ALL HAIL OUR NEW CHINESE A.I. OVERLORD
Jackson Roberts
to spy on you while you masterbate to your loli GILF bestiality bondage MLP pr0n
Asher Ortiz
So they can allegedly make the most powerful supercomputers, but can't crack 1st gen stealth?
Wew lad, it's fucking nothing.
Adam Garcia
Having the most powerful supercomputers simply means that you've put the largest amount of processors in a single room. There is nothing impressive about that. A decentralized network would be as efficient, but nobody would claim that it is supercomputer.
Ethan Flores
Generally you rent a supercomputer by the hour. So not just one thing, but many tasks.
This also means that it's not so important how fast it is. A slower supercomputer that's cheaper to rent could be fine as long as you don't need your results very fast.
John Wood
>hardware numbers and specs
Now post relevant results attributed to this hardware.
Easton Lopez
But it hasn't figured out ID's yet, so clearly not strong AI. We can sleep safely.
Juan Morris
Well, We....at least I do my best to not buy/use anything electronic that is made by Chinese company.First being that most tech head in Mainland have deep connection with PLA and CCP(Especially Hua Wei)Second, with most western electronic available rather cheaply for us there's really no reason apart from finical problem that you will want to buy a Mainland made electronic(especially take into consideration that they do not have good quality and reputation over past years)
Hudson Ortiz
ITS EASY TO MAKE THE FASTEST SUPERCOMPUTER
JUST >ADD MOAR COARS
ONLY CHINKS GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE, TFLOP/WATT IS MORE RELEVANT
PLUS THEIR LAST STATED SPEC ON SHENWEI IS 65NM PROCESS TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS FUCKING OLD AND BUSTED
INTEL IS ON 14NM MOVING TO 10NM
Camden Mitchell
What other results? It's a computer, it computes stuff.
Matthew Perez
Read the thread pls. I'll also add finding oil as a notable example. All industries use supercomputers of some sort.
Wyatt Morris
He probably means research articles output. Which the chinese are bad at. Even Tianhe2 was very unheard of in the field and linked to nothing particular.
Isaac Morris
yes this we be a useful use for this supercomputer, for mankind and all that.
Jose Cruz
Aren't RAM and bus speeds the new bottleneck anyway? What's the point of more and more processing power when the most exciting advances in the field of computer science are related to big data mining, parsing semi-structured content, natural language processing, [insert memory-intensive text-based process here], etc.? Surely for numerical simulations in engineering and science, there would be diminishing returns from an ever increasing number of FLOPS.