What will happen to Gibraltar?

With the UK leaving the EU, Spain is already calling for sovereignty over Gibraltar. Are we about to witness a "Cold War" of sorts over Great Britain's baby? What will come of this?

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They'll have to pry it from their cold dead hands, but I'm sure Spain has already learned their lesson when it comes to warring with Great Britain lmao

>Cold war
No it'll just be the Falklands war on a much smaller scale.

Well they should do like in Crimea
Referendum and ask people which country they want to be under
They'll vote Spain/EU

You think there will actual military conflict? I'm seriously doubtful the UK will give Gibraltar up but I don't think Spain has the sack to fight for it either.

Spain won't fight for it, even if they did they don't have the support to take on anglosphere if the EU get involved.

Spain doesn't have to respect England's claim; but they should respect the wishes of the people of Gibraltar, who already had their own stay/leave referendum.
Because we all know how much respect Spain has for that kind of thing.
Incidentally, Gib is one of the coolest places on the planet. If you're ever in southern Spain there is every reason to visit.

IIRC Britain has a major sub base there. Not going to go without a fight, unless they want to never be taken seriously again.

The UK doesn't have the military might to take on the entire EU. If they backed Spain, Gibraltar would become rightful Spanish clay. I think it will be a matter of does the EU want Gibraltar, rather than Spain itself.

Gibraltar can fuck off.

Traitors.

To be fair, if you don't understand why Gibraltar benefits more from staying in the EU, you're fucking retarded.

Spain already said they're not interested in getting Gibraltar back, they're too socialistcucked for that, worst case scenario it'll become it's own city-state like Monaco or so?

implying leave was a good idea , glad we've got boris to fix the pound and raise the worlds stock markets from the ashes , fucking boris

I fully well understand, I'm just not a selfish autist who votes purely based on personal convenience.

That's why I voted leave, even though my holiday to Portugal just got more expensive, because leave is for the greater good. Can you wrap your head around that?

>leave is for the greater good
it's like Sup Forums really got taken in by ukip propaganda

>I'm going to wreck my relationship with the only entity protecting my tiny homeland and open myself to Spanish aggression so an island hundreds of miles away that I'm hardly associated with can benefit
I'm all for Brexit m8 but in their case I can sympathize.

Spain can do plenty of thing to make life on that little rock hell. It will end up getting depopulated and UK will just give it up.

>What happens in 24 hours dictates what happens for the rest of eternity

kys

Not mentioning Ceuta and shit

Spain can fuck off

leaver propaganda is the only education on politics the dumb shits who voted leave have had, retards shouldn't be able to vote. The demographics for voters shows it all, if you're old and stupid you'll vote leave , if you're young and educated you'll vote stay. looks like Sup Forums doesn't have a degree

>I'm going to fuck up my homeland's chance to get out of a parasitic relationship with EU so I can get cheap stuff from Spain instead of moving

Why do you imply educated means smart?

>The demographics for voters shows it all, if you're old and stupid you'll vote leave , if you're young and educated you won't show up to vote.

because generally gary from luton with 1 gcse is sport is a fair bit stupider than john in london with a masters in computer science

The big problem for Gibraltar now is that it cannot be longer the place where many people hide their money. It is beyond an external border of the EU

Give it a break, shill. It is already over

I would sell it to Spain.

I've always been of the opinion that university graduates should have their right to vote temp rescinded after so much exposure to remdial political opinions in Uni.

tell me im wrong, the reason a lot of stupid people are so happy after this is finished is no muh immigrants won't take my jobs. They don't care about any economic or social backlash from the vote because they don't understand economics

>Ceuta and shit
They were never from Morocco tho

I am surprised spain hasnt blockaded it yet.

>fighting over a rock

No wonder the aliens won't make contact.

i do actually agree with you in one regard , when i was in university there was a lot more liberal agendas going around i disagree with a lot of liberalism but you can see how it has an affect on a lot of students

Unless it's STEM, Law or Medicine then I would argue that your degree actually makes you dumber.

t.Electronic Engineer

why is spain trying to annex Gibratar whilst you are barley clinging onto Catalonia by your finger tips

im computer science myself and the only time i really had connections with the arts was talking to the easy girls on campus, my sister did english literature and has lost 4 jobs and is 6k in debt and left uni so you might be right there

Spain doesn't give an absolute fuck about Gibraltar. Gibraltar is a net fucking loss to the economy. Their politicians are doing this solely for the publicity.

if spain is barely clinging to catalonia then only your pinky is grasping scotland.

This is only a regular diversion from the spanish goverment before elections.
Even if PP continues governing after sunday, they won't do shit about gibraltar.

No one but PP and Falangists cares about Gibraltar tbqh
About Catalonia, the independence movement lost in the elections, their bad

Parasitic to member countries of the EU maybe. Looking at it from a purely financial perspective, access to the EU single market is a big deal for them. Britain is large enough that they don't need that, however if Gibraltar leaves their consumer market for business goes from 500 million to like 30,000.

This.

Ceuta (inb4 Portugal) and Melilla were both part of the Fezian Kingdom, a Rif Berber Kingdom which was significantly distinct both culturally and ethnically from the today most culturally Arabic Morocco. An independent Rif nation should have been a thing after the decolonization, though.

I'm third year Economics and have no doubt I'm smarter than you, electrician boy.

I don't see this happening beacause of NATO, but if it DID happen, the results would be a potentially hilarious clusterfuck. UK funding Basque separatists in a proxy war, and claiming that Cetua and Melita should belong to Morocco. North Africa fucking around, possibly for the highest bidder.

Worst case scenario would be a repeat of the Spanish Civil war, and you know what happens after THAT.

The UK actually does have the military capability to fight the EU. I don't think you really understand how neutered the German and French military is and how easy it is to defend that little island of theirs.

You really don't know what your talking about, not a single measurable firepower ranking puts UK over france alone.

Well the UK has a pretty good nuclear arsenal which it can use as leverage.

No one gonna be dropping nukes over gibraltar. It's not even a relevant port anymore.

They have to find a diplomatic solution because the population there cant even survive with out trade with spain.

Not even that guy but I left LSE with a masters and can still tell you that you dont know what the fuck you're talking about

Spain won't probably take Gibraltar back. And you are deluded if you believe that this will end on a war. Spain is not going to take any military action. We will leave this to the ONU and wait.

But the border is going to get closed for sure, and they won't leech us anymore. It's a win-win for Spain. I don't care about "MUH CLAY"

France has nukes, both Spain and UK are in the Nato, you don't have any clue about what you are talking about

Fucking finally
This

Why, because Gary who has spent his life raising a family, building houses, supporting his local economy or working group as any form of tradesman, is worth less than John, some faggot with a degree who's only contribution to our economy is buying the guardian? Fuck off, the working class represents the foundation on which our society has always been built. You are the worst kind of person, also, CompSci is the easiest discipline. Kys

But staying in EU =/= want to be part of Spain rather than UK.

Massive fucking difference.

They've had referendums before about being returned to Spain -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar_sovereignty_referendum,_2002

>The result was a massive rejection of the proposal

So, guys - don't get too mad at Gibraltar. For them it is beneficial to be part of the EU, but perhaps not being controlled by Spain.

you nearly lost the falklands, this would be an overwhelming victory.

They've tried to take it many times before but papists can't fight.

Slopi cunts are welcome to have another crack at it.

Lol, please explain how they're leeching off Spain.

no gary actually divorced his wife like most marriages , is an alcoholic who is wanted in court for not paying child support. John also brings more money into the British economy and spends more money overall. you're obviously a gary. Im working class myself i come from south tyneside all my family have either been army or worked in the docks until they closed. I am the first in my family to go to university i also earn the most in my family

realistically, what will happen is that the UK will have to pay the Spanish government year on year to allow Gibraltans free movement in and out of Spain, even though they are no longer part of the EU

if there was a sovereignty referendum in Gibraltar you may get a very small swing to Spain or shared sovereignty, but you can't swing a 99.7% vote for Britain, which is what they voted for a few years ago.

If spain closes the border 90% of them are going to have to move back to the UK.

It will remain British clay. Do they want gib more than the millions of tourists that visit the costas every year?

The UK has nukes.
/discussion

>Spain tries to annex Gibraltar
>UK just nukes it

>So, guys - don't get too mad at Gibraltar.
People are not mad about Gibraltar because of patriotism like Argentina with the Falkland Islands. We are mad because their economy is based on jewing us.

only ~33k of us here, they are scared shitless. The butthurt is glorious. I think it's mostly usual Spanish election posturing (they vote next week), but even I have to go home, fuck it.
Was still worth my Out vote.

Nothing. Gibraltar would not join a country that has a 50% unemployment rate among millennials

>Training
>Experience
>Small Arms
>Aircraft
>Armour
>Armed Forces not infested with subversive muslims

We win every time.

Fuck Gibraltar.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar_sovereignty_referendum,_2002

yeah because the UK has never surrendered territory without a fight.

fuck gibraltar its literally just a big rock

Their economy is 100% based on tax evasions and tobacco traffic. We lose a shit ton of money every year because of them.

If spain declares war on the UK, Australia and New Zealand will both step in thanks to defense treaties which means the US will also join.

The EU would be worn out through a big war of attrition since it's not logistically feasible to land invade Australia or New Zealand, and Britain has shown it's pretty easy to defend that little island.

>57 Royal Marines surrender to 600 Argentine troops + vehicles
>HAHA LOOK UK ARE SURRENDER MONKEYS

Lmao

>We are mad because their economy is based on jewing us.
Any idea how many Spanish cross in each day to work? Any idea why that is? BC the world trusts UK law more than yours.

As far as the fishing shit, that's all peanuts, no real money in that for you and you know it. You don't get jewed by having us here, you are the same as Argents.

This, the Falklands at least are way bigger than that fucking rock. What we want is to remove the leech, you can keep it as long as it doesn't make too much noise.

Money, they smuggle tobacco into our territory and sell it there ilegally. and that money doesn't end up in Spain preciselly.
Also they won't stop messing with our fishers, but the moment they cross their waters and our police tries to stop them they go full they dindu nuffin.

>based on tax evasions and tobacco traffic
complete fuking bullshit. Wild guess- Podemos supporter?

I'm a third year economics student as well. If you think you're smart than an engineer of any sort you're just fucking retarded or have some sort of grandeur.

The airspace thing is shitty, though

Could they become independent and survive? I don't know how strong its economy is is compared to say Monoco.

He was talking about the only territory outside the UK you ever had that fucking was worth anything more than raw materials. Hong Kong.

I dont think so, they are way smaller and now their business is over

Based big rock man

LOOK GUYS
another Brussels' bitch

Desu be honest OP. we've going to have so much on our hands over the next two years that defense/security will suffer, and I could see us losing it. Our Navy is in too poor a state to take any real action here.

>Any idea how many Spanish cross in each day to work? Any idea why that is?

Let me guess, because they don't have to pay VAT?

>As far as the fishing shit, that's all peanuts, no real money in that for you
>Impending an activity of the primary sector is peanuts and doesn't bring money.

I get that you don't have enough space to plant a single crop, but to outright disregard that sector...

Podemos would still defend you even if you planted bombs in Andalucia claiming more clay. We already have seen that with Mudslimes.

You are a true british patriot. Putting UK interests first.

Those 823 warriors deserve to own the rock. Deport the rest for acting like jews

>airspace thing
they are NATO members, the fucking irony of all that is that the jews are for their own defence. That's all the yanks and NATO though, at this point our airforce is gutted along with rest of miltary.

Let them deal with the Yanks, it's they who prefer to deal with us bc we are part of "5 eyes" and can be trusted.

>MUH STOCKS SHOAH
>WEAK CURRENCY IS GOOD FOR EXPORTS UNLESS SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE CAUSES IT
do us all a favor and swallow your driedel

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>France has nukes
Yeah I'm sure thats relevant if a war for fucking Gilbratar happened

You sound like an Argent. For shits and giggles, I hope you get it back Pablo. Let's see what a great money maker it is for you. Surely, you'll be on easy street if only you had a fucking strip of land with a Rock with your flag on it.

>I get that you don't have enough space to plant a single crop, but to outright disregard that sector...

You can't fish like... 200 yards away in your own country? Holy fuck.

>Deport the rest for acting like jews
Agree with you there, traitors willing to see all of the West fall not to risk their pension packages.

Hey if nukes were around in 1939, they would be relevant for some shitty bit of Polish coast.

Do you really think Brit fishermen are getting rich? fucking EU destroyed Brit fishing industry.

Fuck the 'llanitos'. "¡Zomoz inglezez!"
Sure you're english, sure...

>they are scared shitless
Top fucking kek, what lies did Picardo spread?
That we were going to enter the border with tanks or something?

I wouldn't care about your rock if those who jew and smuggle would just leave (most likely, the ones that voted remain).
It was just hilarious to see in the news people butthurt about how leaving would destroy their tax-free paradise.

>The EU would be worn out through a big war of attrition since it's not logistically feasible to land invade Australia
Aussies finally getting nuked.

So can greece with their gib constantinopel.