I was trying to ask a guy in another thread and it gets closed. If you're in your 20s and have nothing going for you, what is the main cause?
I'm trying to help men here cause not long ago i had similar problems. The modern era is against men who fall down but i can help
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Nobody?
Zak Bagans is amazing
My own fear a failure.
I agree he's a super cool dude
What's your situation? You gotta hurry up and fail then and get it over with. Everyone fails, thats why they're successful. If you think you can be differe nt and better maybe you're a perfectionist. Either way the cure is self compassion and getting out there and doing stuff.
lead investigator of the ghost adventure crew, damn I miss the first seasons
I love nothing, and I have zero motivation. Seems edgy, but it's true. I just don't feel love, I don't think. I'm not sure what it feels like. What does it feel like to love family or someone else?
The fear of things going wrong
Are you watching porn and are you addicted?
Did you not have love ever in life?
Let things go wrong and find it's not the end of the world
Ditto. All I want is to have enough food to eat, enough shelter to sleep, enough clothes to keep comfortable, and time to be able to read, think, and play music. I definitely don't need to be a wageslave to meet those goals.
The top to bottom corruption of the government.
Remove that, then I'll be productive.
Until then, not supporting zog in any way shape or form and will work day and night to dismantle it.
i'm 23 and i finally feel like i've figured things out
never thought i'd feel okay but i do, better than ever in fact
i strongly advise the neets of the thread to follow themselves and not what external sources tell them they should do
If you're not mentally dysfunctional then suit yourself. But you'll probably change your mind later. Be flexible and open minded
>Wants holding you back
Myself.
I'm schizophrenic. The delusions are there when I'm at peace but little bit of stress just makes me feel bad.
I really wish I could get get a job and learn a few trades but niggas would break my balls knowing that I am emotionally fragile
No, I have very little sex drive. I do it out of habit and to clean myself of any lust every couple of days.
No. I didn't. I did not have a happy childhood.
Partially this, but I have no desire for any of that. I don't desire to live, but I don't desire to die, either.
You should certainly follow your own path and don't occupy yourself with the crowd, that makes people crazy. They don't love themselves
I have to go through 42 woman who feel the need to be my surrogate mummy to get a simple job like street sweeping. I refuse.
12 years a NEET
>and have nothing going for you, what is the main cause?
I just dont have the drive to do anything. Nothing really gets me going. Like I dont get fired up and strive to make a living out of whatever. I just stick to living quietly in my apartment, lifting weights, cooking for myself, playing videogames and fapping.
Most of history's greatest figures had inherited dysfunctions. It is the struggle to fit in that pushed them to be beyond normal and excel. Get faith in yourself by applying yourself
I'm paralyzed by indecisiveness, and overwhelmed by fear of failure. I get pulled in millions of different directions but end up hardly producing anything, because I dabble in too many things and never settle on just one thing to achieve.
t. starving software developer.
My advice : cease porn. You can fap but no porn. Learn self compassion look it up. Go to social events and get friends, do your web browsing in a coffee shop
>and fapping
That's your problem
It's not like I care for porn... I'm not addicted by it, or even really turned on by it.
He has bailey jay's face.
Read my previous posts re:failure
Take a break from the internet and enjoy nature. You have ADD from technology. Write your thoughts on paper and make deliberations and some accountability chart or system that tracks your progress. Start a journal so your days aren't aimless
I used to have reasons but I became apathetic and stopped caring now it's beyond me to care enough to fix it.
Can't even remember now.
How old are you? Have friends?
How old? Don't get apathetic dude trust me. You're going down a bad path. You need to find meaning in life
21
None
Never have had any
Haven't changed my mind on the matter in 30 years.
a-are you me?
22 Same situation.
Do you also have loneliness induced manic episodes and having conversations with yourself?
I was still mostly friendless at that age. So young yet. In college? If not pursue something, anything. You need to get out there in peoples paths and realize you won't make it long term alone
Too introspective. Too introverted. I've spent the last two years inside my laptop investing in knowledge no one will ever care about. No point in anyone wasting their time with me. No point in me wasting my time with normies. I'm looking for a job as I type but Im 22 and no real job experience. Its tough
There's time to change but you probably see yourself too old too which is also the reason you got to this point. Got to forgive yourself of your circumstances and realize everyone struggles
You want to know the truth?
I deserve to wallow in my misery. I am complete and total shit, I fucking hate myself and would rather die than be confident.
That's what's holding me back, and now, I'm too far gone to have a normal life. So I browse the internet until my eyes hurt. Every single day.
At least you're applying yourself. Go to social atmospheres and realize the net is killing your health by being a junk food social replacement
2 laz
Funny, you're so deluded.
This is my last warning to you, it is not I, nor will it ever be I who has to change.
And there's nothing I have to forgive myself for.
Time is running out for you, if you don't repent then so be it.
I miss them too. His ego got way too big.
I read an article about how he often gets dragged out of his bed while sleeping and how he built a special room in his house that has holy water and blessed items around it so he can sleep without getting disturbed.
If you look at the 3 of them when they first started off and look at them now you can see that something really bad has been going on with them. I am glad they endanger their lives for our entertainment but part of me hopes they stay safe. You can only pull the tigers tail for so long before something really bad happens.
I bet those 3 guys have the worst nightmares.
There ain't nothing I can do. I have no skills or experience (no matter where I apply too). I'm not going to college either, complete scam.
>mfw I keep hearing the "You gotta start somewhere"-meme
What do you think I've been doing, shit.
I live in a small town with little prospect of finances or quality women.
Between weed, video games and masturbation I'm almost completely disinterested real relationships.
Although I am fairly young(22) healthy, decently attractive and confident. I simply have no interest in the world or people.
I know I can turn it around at any moment but I'm just enjoying myself right now.
Autism and being unattractive. You can be one and still make it, but if you're both of those things at once it's pretty close to a death sentence. For men, that is.
I'm also just not a nice person in general. I plan on doing the bare minimum it takes to get by, then eventually move somewhere isolated from society and scrape by on a subsistence level.
I walk around for hours, pacing, imagining I had friends, conversations out loud and in my head. Sometimes fantasy, sometimes reality.
I was bullied every day, and my parents didn't really care much. Everything I have tried and wanted, people have shat on.
I'm 27 with very very minimal work experience and no qualifications and big gaps in my cv due to anxiety. Get very nervous ibs in job interviews. cant get any jobs
Mental and physical health problems. Hard time working because I have bad feet that cause enormous pain when standing for long hours, also have severe depression from repeatedly being fired and rejected in life.
Dropped out of HS, biggest mistake of my life.
Please be in Skegness.
My parents have been telling since I finished high school that they were probably moving in about six months. I have since dropped out of college and been home for about two years, yet I am constantly told to put all of my plans on hold because they will be moving soon. Originally that meant I would need to move out, but for some ungodly reason this has more recently turned into me coming with them.
I have no fear of failure, in fact I expect it. I just don't know what to do. I am constantly derided for my lack of income and education, but when I ask for help or advice on getting my shit together I am told to fuck off because they are moving. It was one thing when they said they were kicking me out, but now I'm actively disincentivized because they tell me they're looking for a place I can stay and pay rent, and thus I have to put any plans on hold so I can move with them "in a few months."
I have always had a bad relationship with these people and they struggle with basic communication and planning. I am a penny-pinching asshole with many great passions, but since I have no money to work with and "only a few months" I can't even invest in a hobby or develop a skill. I want to start a business and I have a rough plan with a low cost, and even though I'm not really chained down by my parents I am constantly demotivated and they toy with my emotions for no reason.
Any time I think about getting a job (which is often) I am caught up by time constraints, my qualifications, and the cost of moving out. I have been accused of having anxiety problems because I "think too much about it," but those same accusers don't realize they will sit for hours and second-guess everything I say or do just to get a rise out of me. They then tell me I should not even consider possibly the most important decisions of my life because it's just "details."
I am a wreck. Everything is awful.
You take this emotional reaction too personal and think just you feels it when most people do at some point, i did.
You judge yourself from a standard society imposes bypassing your own appraisal. You need to have SELF COMPASSION. Look up Kristin Neff. Do metta meditations. Stop taking failure so seriously and personally.
Ps. Writing this on mobile and pressed back after i wrote this so i had to write this all over again. If a stranger on the net's willing to write advice for you twice ya need to get the idea you're worthless out of your head
Stop caring about other people, double-o seven.
Well tell me what have you been doing? Not bein judgemental
after making it to 30 and losing my job because it got relocated overseas. unemployed 6 months. almost out of money to live off of
in the long hours of boredom in between worthless interviews for jobs i don't want, i decided that there's no carrot at the end of the stick any more. if there ever was one
I'm sure you're content now but someday you'll look back with serious regret and sorrow at the time you wasted. It's not those things are bad, it's that you use them instead of relationships. Which are crucial
>I was trying to ask a guy in another thread and it gets closed. If you're in your 20s and have nothing going for you, what is the main cause?
Being a 29 year old virgin. Its demoralizing. I really believe that never getting to have sex was a major part of the reason why I have so little motivation to succeed and have done poorly during college and have basically been unemployed ever since graduating. I'm technically not a full NEET since I do make around $5000 a year by selling crap online.
I also believe that another part of the reason why I'm a semi-NEET is because companies REFUSE to train people for jobs. Constantly being told "you must have experience to work for me. Fuck off, I'm not going to train you." Is demoralizing.
Not a neet but an underachiever.
My problem is that I'm not interested in doing anything that would help the shitty state of the world.
It's difficult to want to be a part of the problems ruining humanity.
Tell that to Isaac Newton. There's always hope. He was an autistic virgin
Need to publish some book, no job at what I do (tfw english degree), living in mom's basement, motivation yay but health nay. Used to be /fit/ but now I can't do exercise without my lungs burning so I've got a big belly. I also make vidya art, people I worked for praised my skills and dedication but the project died and I can't find another.
And finally > tfw no Spexit
I was born on the IOW. Live in the South-West now.
I don't really anymore. Which is why I avoid them now.
We both know what you need, connection, the trouble is how. I don't have a quick formula but the first step is intention on getting it. What are you interested in? Don't assume everyone is out to destroy you. I also came up without love. These feelings will change when you're not focused on that narrative as an explanation to your loneliness
niggers, mexicans, and mudslimes, of course.
Nice, my specialty. My life was ridden with anxiety and i couldn't complete HS due to it. What do you think causes it any ideas? Some life events or lack thereof?
So far I've been doing some volunteer work to help build up my background. I send out job applications literally every single week, less than a third of those I get interviews. Not once have I gotten the okay to come work for any of them. I'm starting to lose the willingness to keep searching and just giving up. I'm living at home with my parents. I guess it wasn't meant to be, I don't know what I want to do with my life, I'm not intelligent enough for any kind of university program and don't have the physical strength for trade labor due to a disability.
I used to love space, but I'm not smart enough to get into that.
I like people liking what I have to say, but I'm not arrogant enough to believe that this isn't because of a woeful lack of self worth. Truthfully, I'm not sure I have anything good to say.
Self compassion. This thread shows its not personal. Get good shoes or a new trade.
Being a virgin is just a symptom of a bigger disease. All being a virgin means is that you can't communicate with other people effectively or process social cues as fast. That leads to things like being unemployed, homeless, a virgin, etc. Part of being human is interacting with other people, and if you can't do it very well, in a way it kind of means you're less human.
Accepting that and finding a niche is the only real solution.
I think my problem is simply I had no role model and I dropped out of highschool. I have nothing going for me intellectually but I would probably be a diligent worker if someone gave me a job and transportation. I honestly would love even 5$ an hour.
the EU, migrant crisis, lack of a masters degree (you cant work in the sewers unless you're a bachelors or masters student, regardless of what degree you're studying), so jobs are prioritized for incoming immigrants, students, and then the unemployed are left to rot, potentially getting "work practice" by working for 40 crowns an hour with no job at the end of it
going to these "work courses" where you're told by an immigrant supervisor that "you dont face the same difficulties the rest in the group do" whilst you're sitting in a room with people from nigeria, lybia, iraq, pakistan, and some idiot norwegian convert
meanwhile the only jobs that want you as an actual employee don't pay, and the work requires you to be told to kill yourself 300 times a day, or jew some idiot out of his money for a subscription on a magazine
>What's holding NEETS back?
Reward, all NEETS know that no matter how much they put into their lives the reward will not be worth the time
Better to spend your life trying to find any enjoyment and not matter at all than to try and have failure always be your outcome
im not really sure. partly because i didnt mature well due to having an overbearing mother so didnt feel like my life was my own to do what i wanted with. all i want now is a job and my own little place but it seems unattainable
Mixture of early adverse social experiences and genetics. I think I might've made it if my family had realized what was happening earlier and got me treatment. They thought I was just being a shitty little kid and being difficult on purpose, so I just got yelled at or punished until I was 12 or so and it started to get so bad that I couldn't go to school anymore.
I'm stuck n a loop of studying, going to workplace formation (unpaid work) get the title and never find a job on the sector, because they're going to get another sucker like me next year.
You need to get away from them and their plans. Take any job that will pay rent until you get a better one. They will not help you as you note based on history. And jesus stop being a penny pincher this time what matters is independence foremost. Then pursue the business idea.
Journal through it watch the anxiety go
Unemployment in my area sucks. Crime is going way way up in my area as well.
I'm slowly becoming bitter and cinical and apathetic about love in particular. Because I am beginning to realize the true reason I am alone is NOT because no one cared about me or because I was this or that, it's because I never gave anyone a chance, and I'm bitter because I was a lot more autistic then and now that I'm a lot better off I have no opportunities to find love.
I'm a passionate artist, have a promising career ahead of me, and stand to make a lot of money in my future. I just feel like I must be fundementally broken because I've only had 2 gf's in my whole life. 1 online and one irl. I feel like there must be something wrong with me because all my friends have or are finding love and I'm not.
Dude this is a temporary event in an otherwise probably normal life. Unemployment sucks but don't let it define you. We've all been there. Take a break sometimes and enjoy life
1) Don't go to college or trade school
Only job I can get pays so little that I can't even afford to live independently. I might not even be able to get a job at Walmart or McDonalds or whatever. These jobs are also soul-draining corporate jobs that don't benefit society.
2) Go to college or trade school
I will probably end up in $20,000+ of debt and be unable to get a relevant job. Or if I do, it may be automated out by new technology soon.
3) Go to college or trade school and actually get successful job
I won't even be able to find a non-ruined woman in modern society to start a family with who won't cheat on my, or divorce me and steal my kids/money.
Been dragging on a MSc forever. Probably failed some courses this time around because of lack of studying and will have to spend yet another year. Lack of motivation / confidence and the fact that I have the security of already having a degree capable of earning me a decent living is what's holding me back. That, and I procrastinate until the very last moment, then get overwhelmed, then either perform poorly or give up. Any advice?
What a sad existence if they actually believe that.
This us what happens when you give everyone participation trophies and crack down on bullying
I'm 25. I had a job as a web developer for 1.5 years but I ragequit. That was 10 months ago.
I could go back to being a web dev I guess, but I don't want to. Don't want to be cucked into sitting at a fucking desk. Don't want to be cucked into having FEMALE fucking bosses. Don't want to be cucked into giving into an SJW culture that has infested technology.
I keep thinking of the military but I never do it. Also, because my dad moved out a few years ago, there's no one to give me a hard time. I just sit on my arse all day. My mum gets mad but she's a woman so I'm bigger and physically stronger than her and I know she's never going to punch me. And if she did it wouldn't even hurt.
you should all read notes from undeground
Go to a staffing agency. Also peeps looking for jobs i forgot to mention this. It's great.
Big deal about virginity. I'm good looking and lost it at 24. Nobody worthwhile cares. You know the people who care about it? Low IQ degenerates that have nothing else in life to live for
Achievement by whose standard? Disregard what standard is set and do you
What kind of knowledge?
Get into lathes
No women to be seen there
You have a direction dude so don't sweat it. Take any job while you do your thing on the side. Why do your lungs burn
>I never believed in ghosts
I got my master's degree in engineering a few days ago, so I'm a neet right now. Worked 2 years in a engineering office while I studied.
I forgot everything I learned while working there. I can't remember shit from University. I have my diploma with a good grade, but I won't be able to talk about all the things I'm supposed to know.
I don't feel ready at all for a "real" job as a "real" engineer.
I'm riddled with complexes and doubts about finding a job, but I'll do my best. The biggest incentive for me is that I'm too old (27) for being a broke neet.
Keep applying yourself and look into staffing agencies. You got to find what your passion is too while you get experience
I landed up graduating college at the age of 25. The primary reason was the lack of access to the financial resources I needed to succeed. After graduating, I lived at home and worked full time till I was about 27, and had enough money for the down payment on a house.
I wasn't proud of it, and I felt like a lot more of my peers were initially marginally more successful than me. I strictly avoided dating for 5 years because it was embarrassing bringing females to my parents house at that age. But I think the most important thing to realize is that you should never give up no matter what; because your situation is unique to yourself, and it's crucial to recognize that others might have a head start, but you shouldn't give up because of that. Now I make pretty good money and most people my age are in financial straits, due to either poor financial decisions, or divorce, and child support payments.
Be as successful as you can possibly be and you'll do alright in this world.
OP I just don't like myself is there anything wrong with that? I want to get a qt girlfriend but I fear I'll only harm her
By my own standards.
I could do much better. I know.
The problem is a lack of desire to do so.
I see the world with a bigger picture and the picture is smeared in shit; the shit is rubbed right into the canvas.
Been 8 months doing tests and had several symptoms. Nothing found by doctors. I got throat, heart, stomach and chest issues coming and going. They told me it could be anxiety but anxiety doesn't make your wake up with your lungs burning every time you breath, and I'm chill as fuck.
Well what do you love now?
You are over analyzing social interaction. Sit in coffee shops or go to the park to see. It's not so cerebral
I'm OP and didn't write this. Troll post
new video game and anime titles. thats it really
That would be cool. Do you do anything like that?
So far I've applied for loads of factory jobs around here (I worked in a computer factory as an assembler/tester before the web dev job). Got nothing back from them so far though.