Saves music

>Saves music

Lets thank the Ramones

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Explain to me how they saved music.

I'm asian

this.

>Blitzkrieg Bop
why do people still listen to these fucking nazi's?

you just answered your own question

Almost everything that came after them was influenced by The ramones. They took everything great about rock music and fused it together. Short fast paced songs, catchy lyrics, and crunchy guitar tones.

Idk what you mean. People had already done this. Hell you could say The Kinks saved music then.

Ramones are the perfect pleb filter.

anyone read this 'interview'? i really enjoyed reading it, dee dee sounds like an fascinating guy

vice.com/en_au/article/qbepd3/dee-dee-ramone

touche

It seems like you've just discovered rock bands other than Led Zeppelin, ACDC and Deep Purple. There are far more imaginative bands than the Ramones.

you're right they are but you can't deny they had an influence on today's music!

>you're right they are but you can't deny they had an influence on today's music!
On chart topping rock music, for sure. That's really not for me.

Everything that was underground in the 80s and 90s was influenced by them. Not exactly chart topping music faggot.

>Everything that was underground in the 80s and 90s was influenced by them
Are you going to provide an example for this or is it just "catchy lyrics, and crunchy guitar tones"?
>Not exactly chart topping music faggot.
What are you even attempting to be defensive about? A personal taste in music of anonymous poster?

>is the reason pop punk like FoB and Paramore exists

Beta Ramones

Chad Pistols

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How retarded can you be to not realize the Ramones started the punk movement so indirectly they're responsible for every derivative form of punk like post-punk,new wave,industrial,no wave,d-beat,extreme metal,synth-pop,goth,grunge,noise rock etc.

They're also the reason The Pistols existed in the first place

In the midst of a decade full of prog fags that thought they wuz the new Bach and were always taking music like they had a stick up their ass, the Ramones reminded everybody that music could be simple, funny and good

We need new Ramones to BTFO the fucking indie fags that also take music too seriously

Though the Ramones were simply just making music, the first wave punk they influenced was pretty retarded with its senseless anti music attitude. Punk had to be saved by new wave and hardcore which respectively added the innovation and raw energy needed to make punk a legitimate genre.

Progs death was an inevitable event that people some how think was single handedly caused by punk. Executive meddling had already enforced a shift towards alienating, commercialised prog rock by the time of late 74, meaning the 'pomp' fests often derided by punk bands were anything but said prog groups at their best.

Classic prog bands at their best were perfect blends of experimentation, broad sound sets and endearing tunes. Its entertaining, often humorous music if youre not conformist enough to dismiss anything different as pretentious flamboyance.

It is ironic that the musical movement that brought innovation in rock music back was the punk derived new wave music.

>they're responsible for every derivative form of punk like post-punk
Goodbye. I could've called you something for not knowing the first thing about what you're talking about, but, goodbye.

Very good point, his claim is an offence to those musicians who took punk to the next level and turned it into something that the prog fag I am actually enjoys.

>prog fags
>they wuz the new Bach and were always taking music like they had a stick up their ass
>We need new Ramones to BTFO the fucking indie fags that also take music too seriously
Jesus Christ, this is a Monty Python sketch in the writing. Alright, I'll indulge you, although with a sage. It has been explained to you here:
The reason progressive and other similar exploratory genres of rock music were even undertaken by record companies is because of an unprecedented amounts of profit from the previous decade, in which you, as a record company executive, could have made a simply ridiculous amount of money by signing bands who had subjects other than love to write on. And God forbid anyone actually knew more about music than a person who would say something like (which also applies to rock music):
>YEAH MAN fuck high concepts in art, fuck progression of sounds and styles, fuck innovation and experimentation, gimme that good all 40s jazz that I can DANCE to all day bro! God, some jazz fans are so pretentious, where's my bowl??

>YEAH MAN fuck high concepts in art, fuck progression of sounds and styles, fuck innovation and experimentation, gimme that good all 40s jazz that I can DANCE to all day bro! God, some jazz fans are so pretentious, where's my bowl??

I remember seeing this in response to Bitches Brew in another thread, was it ironic?

It was my response, and yes, I was mocking a purist. He could've posted Doo-Bop.

Fusion just seems to perfectly alienate many rock and jazz fans alike; though the cause of this these days appears to be a lack of appreciation of jazz as opposed to the jazz elitism of those days.

>"Like if you're still listening to REAL music in 2018!"

Santana did fusion so much better than everyone else the whole genre is redundant

I said indirectly responsible,do you really think post-punk would've happened without punk?

Not sure if youre still the same person but I'd be triggered if Casiopea, Brand X and Jean Luc Ponty never existed.

We have him

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Another band would of just popularised punk in the Ramones place

>Not only do these albums contain most of the masterpieces of punk-rock (it can be argued that other punk-rock only played variations on the Ramones' themes) but they coined a new theory of what it means to make music. After centuries of progress, their three chords marked a near return to the Stone Age. That primitivism would influence thousands of musicians all over the world, from rock to jazz, from the avant-garde to ska. The Ramones invented punk-rock, the most widespread musical genre of the late twentieth century. Nobody had done it before them and perhaps no one else did it like them. The world before and after the Ramones are two completely different worlds. 1976 is a watershed for the history of music (not just rock, even jazz and classical, as the many John Zorns demonstrate). When it exploded, punk-rock radically changed the face of the planet, it was a shock comparable to Chuck Berry's guitar riff and the San Francisco hippies. A quarter of a century later, earthquakes are still felt. No one had ever played such music, not even the most rugged garage-rock complexes. Not only that: no one before 1976 would have expected that music would have been played in 1977. The Ramones literally came out of nowhere. If that was not a revolution, it is difficult to understand what revolutions there have ever been in music. Yet at the beginning they were considered simply demented parodists of the "canzonets" (their name, Ramones, is a parody of the Beatles, who used the surname Ramone when they traveled incognito). But the Ramones played "songs" like Beethoven played folk ballads. The "songs" of the Ramones made fans of the melody cringe.

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What the fuck did I just read? It sounds like fairy tale bait for teenagers who don't know better.

Jean Luc Ponty could hold his own but Santana invented good fusion. Excellent chops perfectly mixed with riffs and melody

t. Henry

>I said indirectly responsible
I didn't see it the first time. John Lydon for one, never really wanted to play in a band other than PiL. Here's an interview in which he briefly explains that while being brilliant as ever:
youtube.com/watch?v=FtWWeSuLGSU

>but Santana invented good fusion
Let's not get carried away. "Good" and "bad" as is taste is subjective.

no they were doing it fully fledged in the early 70s. In a silent way was earlier but that record is objectively messy compositions

>In a silent way was earlier but that record is objectively messy compositions
That album wasn't for me either, but definitive statements like yours for music are absurd.

Well they didn't and The Ramones did,which is what this thread is about

yeah it would be to non-theoryfags

I just like the damn genre, at certain points, I stop even caring about the compositions; the rhythm, keyboard and guitar interplay when they completely let loose is just too damn ear pleasing. Would absolutely hate it if Santana were to ruin the whole genre for me.

>yeah it would be to non-theoryfags
Jesus Christ, this is actually happening again, isn't it? You honestly believe music theory was conceived to "prove" which piece of music was "objectively good", is that right?

no as someone who knows theory Santana checks all my boxes wouldn't expect a different perspective to appreciate them

What are you even talking about now? You like Santana's music, fine, as simple as that.

And this, is why I never want to learn music theory. I want to enjoy the damn music instead of turning a whole genre against itself.

dawg I can just enjoy it on another level would you prefer I repeat how a song made them feel ad nausaem?

Ignorance definitely seems to be bliss in this case.
That being said, Im just glad to see a theory fag who actually appreciates jazz music.

Again:
I'm glad it didn't apply to the person it was directed to, but it definitely applies to you. Here's something else for you:
youtube.com/watch?v=49alQj7c5ps

What is the best way to learn this stuff?

This is a good starting point:
youtube.com/watch?v=_e62aRZcFkw
musictheory.net/lessons
pianote.co/filegallery/test5.4080.ir/e-books/Music Theory For Dummies.pdf

Thanks, I suppose analysing classical pieces is absolutely necessary too?

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Ramones suck
Bland punk rock sucks in general
I'm glad Post-Punk took over and actually made it good

Keep in mind it's practice heavy

You might end up thinking you're dumb for not immediately understanding concepts but you basically have to exercise your brain into understanding it which means chipping away at things you don't quite get.

Practicing intervals (check out teoria ear training), scales, chords etc is very important to help you understand the theory without getting flustered

Its not just for posh people that speak latin or nerds its literally the equivalent of lift weight muscle get big

I do plan to learn an instrument after graduating Uni so what the heck, thanks user.

don't do this

>Thanks, I suppose analysing classical pieces is absolutely necessary too?
Some classical pieces are "exercises" (etudes) and they are easily suited for analysis, but not necessary.

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