I'm a Globalist. Why do some people see that as being a bad thing?

I'm a Globalist. Why do some people see that as being a bad thing?

Anyone with a curiosity to learn about the world around them - and an ability to keep an open mind and an interest in sorting out the changes being wrought every day - can consider himself or herself a "globalist." Globalists are by no means an elite circle of business or political leaders determined to push forward their agenda in a rapid-fire fashion.

What unites globalists is a strong interest in understanding more about the modern global economy, politics and culture - and how these forces relate to each other.

A globalist, in short, is anyone dedicated to figuring out how the world hangs together. That includes sorting out the dynamic political and social changes associated with globalization, questioning them rigorously and seeking to correct them when necessary.

What is so wrong about that?

Too many people exist. If we cut t b e worlds population down to the conservative whites in north america only, then I too would be a globalist.

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Someone has to be the leader.

The leader of a armyless, borderless super nation has power to decide entirely too much.

Even with a council or whatever, there is too much power to too few people.

>no nation
>no culture
>no race
>no religion

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globalism is dangerous because it's putting all of your eggs in one basket. when we have at least one self sustaining colony on another planet then you can maybe think about letting one government control earth.

Of course it doesn't ;]

Because we'll fall for the same reasons The Tower of Babel fell; too much diversity and not enough cohesion. People work best when it's ethnically similar, and when it's not social conflicts cause governments to be increasingly controlling to keep order. Diversity means less freedoms.

Because free movement breeds equilibrium... just look at your supermarket line.

Technological and progress thrives on marginal returns, if the whole world spreads freely we'd all be as poor as Romania and advance as slow Morocco

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Globalism is money driven. Doesn't believe in culture, tradition, etc.

Besides being AUS, if you didn't know that then you're fooling yourself into thinking you're bringing the world "progress".

At the present moment, "globalism" just means putting our fates out of the hands of government and elected officials and into the hands of corporations. Trading one federalist system which we understand and have a rich culture of holding accountability for another federalist system which we do not understand, is not so openly accountable, and have a rich culture of mistrusting and expecting to behave badly.

culture and tradition are human products, they posses no inherent value.

>Why do some people see that as being a bad thing?

>amount of resources capable of being acquired, refined, or recycled to support a first-world lifestyle / global population

It removes too much power from local governments. What does a career politician in Brussels know about owning a small business in Keswick? When you expand that to include the whole world, it just gets worse and worse. The people at the top would be so far removed from the needs of the common person, it becomes impossible for them to make informed decisions that best serve their constituents. You could argue that they're trying to serve some esoteric "greater good", but if the people at the bottom are suffering for it, you've pretty much lost your mandate to claim the "greater good".

world peace has to be enforced with fear and brutality

morals and laws are human products, they posses no inherent value

>destroy your standard of living so you can have the life of a poverty stricken peasant
>let the elite control and dominate you to the point that they control everything
>you also have no political say in anything ever again

Value itself is an abstract concept. No sense throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

You see Jew, nations are like families. You subvert them both in order to domesticate human beings.

No borders, huh?

globalism can't happen until only one race remains.

I'M A GLOBALIST TOO

FOR WESTERN NATIONS AND JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA

BUT THE MIDDLE EAST SHOULD BE NUKED

>A globalist, in short, is anyone dedicated to figuring out how the world hangs together.
See right there, what you just said.
I'm going by YOUR words, but you want to know how you can unite the world, am I correct?

But what is the moral of globalism?
I know I know, you'll say "unification" or something like that. But how is that moral? Social harmony is moral, yes; in a sense, by that reasoning, unification can be moral too. The family is stronger together. But look, friend, the problem is that peers are stronger unified. A group of scientists are better unified. It'd be awkward to put a porn star in a science team.
Anyway, we have race problems here in North America; I lived through it when I lived in the states, and people are bringing their problems here. I don't want to be divided between racial lines; these aren't lines we've created; these lions exist because YOU people put them there.

Anyways, Rome fell because it was a unified empire created out of a divided people. If you suggest unification on some global scale, you're asking for more wars, more poverty, more crime, and less happy people. It doesn't matter if we're floating around in space on super cool space ships; if the price of progress is morality, then it's not worth my time, because morality is the progenitor of civilization, and globalism isn't a part of that.

what you are talking about sounds more like a problem with government than globalisation in general.

true, they are abstract concepts according to which humans abide, since they provide some sort of immediate benefit.

it is, but it is representative of feelings.
value is a quantification of how much (and in relation to each other) certain events affect our pleasure response, in a good way or bad.

Humans are territorial animals.

Also, open borders lead to the impoverishment of everyone rather than the enrichment of everyone. It has been proven by the European experiment that Africans and Muslims don't become Europeans: instead they just make Europe a little more like Africa.

If you have a boat with 100 people and one lifeboat that can hold only ten, the only result of overloading the lifeboat and trying to save everyone is that it will sink, and 100 people will die rather than 90. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Flooding Europe with unlimited immigrants will in the end result in a third-world Europe, benificial to neither Europeans or immigrants.

Because I'll fucking die before I let a chink tell me what to do.

The size of the footprint (and the corollary wastefulness) of government grows exponentially to the population it governs.

There's fundamentally no "wrong" or "right" way to society and its structure, until you axiomatize a set of objectives that society or govt must fulfill.

So with that in mind, what are the objectives of a globalist society? And more importantly, given that today we have "fractured" nation states, all with vastly different objectives and structures, how does one transition into globalism? What are the first steps?

>nihilism is a super cool idea guys!
>stop laughing at me! im serious!

>Why do some people see that as being a bad thing?

Because half the countries in the world are still full of lunatics worshipping some fairytale "Allah" who tells them to kill and Africans who barely pass as human.

Globalists should be aiming to cooperate between separate powers equally, not aiming to consolidate them under one superpower

The problem with globalism is that I (as a rich person) will be all but expected to give money to the poor. Now you may like this (as a US poor/middle class person). Just consider that as a citizen in the developed world, you are the rich person now needing to share with the dirty, violent, underdeveloped nations (all of Africa outside of SA and Egypt, much of South America, etc.). It's like how communism sucks if you're rich.

This is some quality Australian shitposting

Bravo

kill yourself for the good of us all

>nihilism
try again friendo.
not only you show you don't even have a basic concept of nihilism, you even manage to equate it to moral relativism.

Because non-Whites exist. Get rid of them and Globalism could work.

>no armies
lol, because everyone on the planet is going to be happy with globalism and won't require brutal repression to keep in line.

>I'm a Globalist. Why do some people see that as being a bad thing?

I'm a capitalist. Why do some people see me build fences and gate at my property a bad thing?

Not that guy but the only logical conclusion of moral realtivism adapted seriously will be a descent into nihilism. That's what everyone's favorite fedora tipper was warning about and trying to avoid.

>im a globalist

NOBAY CARE WHAT YAH THINK YAH WANKAH

>Why do some people see interlinking economies so if one falls they all tumble down, forcing vastly different peoples with antithetical beliefs to live together and generate conflict when the inevitable "cultural misunderstanding" occurs, and also causing massive drain on the human spirit and economic structures trying to support the logistics and beurocratic nightmare of managing such a large system which is inevitably going to be used to oppress and torture countless people world wide... as being a bad thing?

gee OP i don't know why.
maybe you should FUCKING RESEARCH IT.

Globalism is good if international minimum wages are mandatory for trade.
Globalism is good if Americans are recognized officially as the imperial rulers, to claim the prizes of our conquests as citizens and soldiers...not just to subsidize Greater Israel and their Wahabi Saudi death cults.

If the kikes were not so busy genociding and backstabbing the gentile host populations they infect, the Global American Empire would already be abosolute.

May the kikes underhanded hypocrisy turn to rot in their fat bellies.

E Pluribus Unum.

Having the entire world being run by a single government would be a bureaucratic nightmare

It won't work, because these retarded movements always assume that the rest of the world are the same as the west. Consider the numbers. Even if all in the west was for it (which they aren't, and they are not sufficiently aware of what globalists do) that is still barely a billion people. Out of eight. China don't give a shit, Russia don't give a shit, South America don't give a shit, Afrika don't give a shot. You are dissolving nations and borders and armies for people who will immediatelly set up their own borders, their own armies, form their own nations. It is worse utopia than the communism, and it once again, as always, hides behind noble ideas.

ANTI GLOBALISM

is the new WINNING meme

Because in order to have a globalist society you need to weaken the people first.
Why do you think identity politics has been rising up so much?
They lower the power of all of the nations so that none of them will rise up.
They have castrated all of us to make us sheep.

>flag
>1 post by this ID
>will probably hit 300+ replies

bravo, Sup Forums

that is only true for people who can't live without their moral high ground imposed by a flavor of the month deity.
i must say i'm not really moved by the argument a lot of people will feel bad.
not to mention the "problem" of nihilism was tackled by nietzsche.

If I don't like your singular government... Where do I go to get one I like?

Because globalism doesn't work and assumes all people of all creeds and religious affiliation are the same and can co exist.

They can not. there's a reason whenever X species of animal is introduced into Y's habitat, even if they're of similar genome like wild dog breeds, one will seek to win out over the other.

Under globalism/multiculturalism, the loudest, proudest and most trigger happy culture/people win.

That's muslims and africans. We're seeing that already.

Globalism is only benevolent when the whole world is subject to American rule.

why are you putting economical, cultural and political globalization all in one basket?
i don't really see a problem with economical globalization, since you basically increase the consumer base, and thus increase the income.

>No armies, no borders, no nations

I recommend you to play a game called Ace Combat Zero OP.

A majority of the globe consists of various cultures that have proven time and time again that they mix poorly with the minority that is "the west". They take more than they contribute, are prone to violent crime, and in one case (take a guess) they've spent centuries actively attacking it. Self proclaimed globalists want to bring more of those people into western nations, either in denial or openly supportive of the fact that this will eventually lead to the native culture and people's destruction.

It claims that it wants to lift the world up to the west's level, but all it really accomplishes is dragging the west into the dirt.

To further iterate, X region of land will have better/more resources than Y region.

This leads to unfairness as seen by others.

The entire reason the world ended up the way it did is not by accident. This is exactly how nature deemed it would happen. Whites evolved in cold place. Cold place was harsh, they had to learn to grow in it. Had to learn to stay warm in it. This learning gave a tactical advantage over other regions that found it hard to grow.

Here we all are.

thats some pro shitposting mate, you guys are truly the kings of shitposts

Lol no, its impossible for a single person to know everything about the world, you are a half-ass at everything and are driven by missinformation, ideology, and propaganda

>inb4 computers
No, butterfly effect, u can't predict based on models

It dosen't work. You can't unite 7 billion people like that when humanity is bound to tribalism.

You mean it's true due to human nature.

Nietzche didn't solve jack, he suggested a way to deny reality and fool delude yourself into finding meaning where there is none. His insight isn't anymore valuable than any other under such a context.

I have no problem with globalism as long as I'd be part of the elites.
I'm better than most of you cunts, I know it, and I thereby deserve a position that reflects my superiority.
Since I'm far and away not going to get that, however, then fuck it. I can rise higher in the current system. Maybe once I reach high enough we can negotiate.

I think living in that sort of world is too complicated for some, so they don't want to just die off.

2008 maybe?

I'm fairly sure only aliens would want humans recamixing until there's only one race.

no history, no tradition, no culture

You just labeled passions that nationalist can have as well (curiosity about the world, global economics, politics, culture, how they relate) but you will find that with this information, or lack thereof, is where you can separate a globalist from a nationalist.

You will find that the globalist sees no practical need for borders because culture is relative and not important, a diverse country is better then a hemogonous one. The globalist thinks trade deals between countries strengthen their economies, there is no need to worry about protectionism and job growth if the countries are mutual benefactors-financially. They believe that cooperation between countries will foster friendship and ease hostilities.

Nationalists tend to be fare more pragmatic. They see a need for borders, because humans are tribal and a homogeneous country with a similar culture/race works more closely and efficiently. The nationalist sees international trade deals as stifling to their countries desires, putting economic gain over job growth and industrial/manufacturing production. They see cooperation between countries as a double edged sword, preferring an independent foreign policy and a clear disdain for countries that go against their interests.

The difference as I see it is that globalists tend to be optimists who lack a realistic basis of historical precedence, and how countries/tribes have operated both now and in the past. They strike me as more misinformed and impulsive, working for a "better tomorrow" for the whole world without looking behind them to see that their agenda has been dragging these very people through the mud the whole time.

Also I didn't mean nihilism would make just make people feel bad.

Nihilism will destroy civilization.

>no armies
except the globalists in power will use armies and force to make people comply with what they want
>no borders, no nations
what (((they)))want is a retarded, easy to control populace of slaves. borders and nations are not conducive to this.
you may call yourself a globalist, which is fine, but the people we call globalists are of a different more malignant kind to whom you are a useful idiot.

cuckservatives are literally just white niggers

only libertarian master race will be allowed to live in utopia

globalism=communism=liberalism=anti-nationalism

You know those people from the World Vision commercials, living in mudhuts rotting away from disease in a 3rd world shithole who only need a dollar/day to get clean drinking water/school/leprosy meds? There's billions of them and under a globalist world government, people like you who live in the comforts of civilization and the means to maintain a higher standard of living will now have a portion of that reallocated to these 3rd world countries. Sometimes it's due to forced charity. Most other times, it's because your government cut a deal with that 3rd world country to export YOUR opportunities to them in exchange for profits that you'll never see or benefit from. And you still get put on the hook for the costs.

OP, you are Australian. You must understand this - quality of life for you in Australia (or here in USA, or in Europe, etc) is way the fuck higher than it is in China, India, Africa, etc. Most of the world is an absolute shit hole, and globalism aims to lower us down to their level.

Globalists want to decrease average annual salaries of all workers. Globalists want to slow the growth of the world population. Globalists want to increase the number and rate of corporate monopolies. Globalists want full control over corporate and central banking. Globalists want full control over currency. Globalists want full control over national governments. Globalists want to exist outside of national government by creating a global governance and a global currency. Globalists want to end competition for their wealth and create a permanent global upper 0.5% wealth class. Globalists want a return to the feudal system with their families forever at the top of the pyramid.

I don't care what you believe... as long as you don't plan on using force to make me agree and follow along with you.

Why stop with a One World Government? Let's all racemix so we can all have brown skin, brown eyes and brown hair!

>Globalists are by no means an elite circle of business or political leaders determined to push forward their agenda in a rapid-fire fashion.

Except that's exactly who would have power you retarded faggot

If you want to take care of everyone, why don't you do it with YOUR money?

Why do I have to be the mommy and daddy to the world?

globalism is jewish religion

Globalist agenda is funded by the greys. Fuck them.

globalism would only benefit the elites, who with such a system could instantly fill labour shortages anywhere in their global operation since they'd have an infinite supply of illiterate 3rd worlders to shuttle around. they'd also get the entire world population as consumers when releasing the latest trendy garbage.

welcome to your new life earning the global average salary of $1400/year. make sure you pay your taxes because your fellow earthlings in the sahara need new huts. don't like it? jamal from somalia here would love to take your place, and he won't complain

Nihonganon is right, as usual. Simple and poetic to the point.

Don't be silly, race mixing won't lead to all of us having light brown skin... just our children

i wouldn't agree it's true due to human nature.
you don't need a quantified system to feel happiness, or to tell you what you need to do in order to feel it.
nihilism states that there is no inherent value, which is true, but happiness is subjective and personalized or simply qualia.
also i think nietzsche did contribute, for one he defined nihilism to a great degree, while i do agree to an extent that his insight isn't more valuable than any other, it provides a good groundwork for self actualization and self fullfilment.

I'm tired of all this hate speech against the greys. The greys are just trying to strengthen us to prepare us for the Quickening.

someone post that comic of the kkk guy who travels the world in both a globalist and nonglobalist world.

Give me your address I'll send some maoris over to you place.

Sure they are.

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the housing bubble collapse is people giving non existent money until such a number of people can't give it back that the whole system breaks.

If youre truly interested in and respect other cultures, then being a Globalist should be the last thing you refer to yourself as. I, as someone who does actually like to travel and experience new cultures, am repulsed by Globalism. When I visit a new country, I want to actually experience a new culture, not America 2.0 with a different national language, where the locals blast rap music, eat McDonalds and check their smartphones every 15 minutes for Facebook Likes. Unfortunately its too late for many once formerly fantastic countries. Globalism is fucking cancer, kill yourself.

i can see how it can destroy a culture, but a civilization is a little harder, i reckon.
there are so many systems that need to break down, and i don't think a dissolution of moral fabric can do that.
some things are not dependable upon a philosophy.
self preservation can overcome anything, in the worst case scenario even the destruction of a civilization.

So globalism is good for poor people,?
Sign me up then!

> Anyone with a curiosity to learn about the world around them - and an ability to keep an open mind and an interest in sorting out the changes being wrought every day - can consider himself or herself a "globalist"

That is probably the single worst definition of 'Globalist' I have ever come across OP, nice work.

Good

get a fucking job

THIS!

Nations are just too different culturally and economically to co-exist like that. Look at the EU, all of those neighboring countries, yet they were all still so different, that once the Euro was introduced, and the currencies equalized, it led to economic collapse of multiple nations. Now, its what you see today, a union of poorer nations sucking the powerhouses like Germany and the UK dry.

Now imagine that on a global scale. In theory, having richer nations aide the poor ones sounds good, but like communism, it doesn't work as well once actually implemented.

Best Korea cares about it's emissions!!

Why do you need lights on when you are asleep?

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Globalist doesn't mean the same thing in the real world and Sup Forums and its allied websites. I'm one too but these cucks think it just means I'm gonna go burn their crops and rape their women while they're forced to watch.