Greeks are bascially Turks. I've researched a lot about the origins of Greeks and I've come to the conclusion that Greeks have absolutely no genetic connection to the Ancient Macedonians, Epirotes and most importantly the Dorians and Mycenaeans.
Greeks are a mix of individuals, it's a long and complicated story as to what they are so I'll bascially sum it up with green text.
It all starts with Rome: >100 BC all of Greece was controlled by the Romans >>It was rich and hence like Italy attracted many migrants in the form of slaves and freemen >lots of race mixing ensued with Africans and middle easterns >250-500AD, many of the Greeks perish to Gothic and Hunnic raids >500-700AD, Slavs migrate and become the majority of many areas in Greece >700-900AD, active scale genocide of Slavs by Byzantines, it was successful and the Byzantines resettled Southern Italians and Anatollian "Greeks" into Greece >Greece is pretty much shitskin at that point with influx of contaminated people >1200-1400AD, Albanians migrate southwards and settle in many areas because of the depopulation from Bulgar-Byzantine Wars >1400-1900AD, Ottoman era, Greeks bascially become Turks here, rape, race mixing, etc... >1921 AD, independent Greece and Turkey commit to population exchange, the Greeks get 1 million eastern Christians, these people were shitskins through and through >2017AD, Greeks are bascially mixed mutts and have no direct descent from the ancient Hellenic tribes
Greeks bascially to us today what the Nubians were to Romans 2000 years ago.
Latest DNA study says Greeks are what they used to be (%85)
Parker Williams
Why do you imbeciles bump this thread? Are you inbred?
Samuel Walker
I am inbred so yes
Joshua Mitchell
your research is pointless there are actual studies done on ancient remains, comparing them to modern populations, if you are actually interested
by the way, modern Greeks are "whiter" than ancient Greeks, because the most important migration into Greece, was the one of slavs during their expansion into the Balkans. Island Greeks who are darker are more similar to Ancient Greeks. And Greeks havent changed much. The modern population closer to Bronze Age Greek is Cypriots, an Island close to Lebanon.
he says pretty much the same thing of the study gnxp.nofe.me/2017/08/02/when-the-ancestors-were-cyclops/ nature.com/nature/journal/v548/n7666/full/nature23310.html?foxtrotcallback=true The origins of the Bronze Age Minoan and Mycenaean cultures have puzzled archaeologists for more than a century. We have assembled genome-wide data from 19 ancient individuals, including Minoans from Crete, Mycenaeans from mainland Greece, and their eastern neighbours from southwestern Anatolia. Here we show that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically similar, having at least three-quarters of their ancestry from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean1, 2, and most of the remainder from ancient populations related to those of the Caucasus3 and Iran4, 5. However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter–gatherers of eastern Europe and Siberia6, 7, 8, introduced via a proximal source related to the inhabitants of either the Eurasian steppe1,6, 9 or Armenia4, 9. Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our results support the idea of continuity but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations.
Jonathan Wilson
nevertheless the butthurt pontic greek is not reliable. quote the actual study instead of that retard. wish TOPAL killed his family.
Lincoln Harris
Fucking morons. It proves nothing! The Mycenaeans were northern invaders, the Dorians the same, the ancient Macedonians the same.
No Greek is descended from them and the study's says nothing at all in trying to support that Greeks descending from Mycenaean conquerors.
Greeks are mixed as stated in the OP proven by historical and genetic evidence.
Dylan Bennett
decent pasta 4/10
Gavin White
shut the fuck up you new world scum mongrel with no identity, we are 100% Hellenic superhumans, blood of Leonidas courses through my veins
Ayden Phillips
Fuck you i got food poisoning today from eating pasta and meat
Benjamin Diaz
that quote is the abstract of the study
Saying Myceneans were northern Invaders is like saying Hungarians are eastern invaders. Hungarians are central europeans who look central european, are genetically central european, and speak a language from central asia, a small minority can impose a language over a much larger population without changing their genetics. The myceneans tested, including an elite woman from a wealthy burial, were of local nealithic farmer ancestry with only a small dash of northern (from the russian steppe) ancestry that may have come from the north or from Armenia.
"We have assembled genome-wide data from 19 ancient individuals, including Minoans from Crete, Mycenaeans from mainland Greece, and their eastern neighbours from southwestern Anatolia. Here we show that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically similar, having at least three-quarters of their ancestry from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean [1, 2], and most of the remainder from ancient populations related to those of the Caucasus [3] and Iran [4, 5]. However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter–gatherers of eastern Europe and Siberia [6, 7, 8], introduced via a proximal source related to the inhabitants of either the Eurasian steppe [1, 6, 9] or Armenia [4, 9]
"Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our results support the idea of continuity but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations."
John Lopez
>Hungarians are central europeans who look central european, are genetically central european, and speak a language from central asia, a small minority can impose a language over a much larger population without changing their genetics. first of all, hungarian language is not central asian. secondly, you're a braindead wh*Te subhuman. stop talking about things that you don't know.
Jonathan Martinez
really? get well soon
Zachary Walker
no need for wall-texting, just use this pic
Lincoln Hernandez
and yes only blonds are the true descendants of Ancient Greeks
Jaxon Taylor
Am I Greek?
Christian Diaz
no
Ian Anderson
huh, it's almost as though people migrate around and interbreed.
