Goths: Degenerate?

What's Sup Forums's opinions on goths?

You have to admit they have some pretty cool music.

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Which ones the woman?

Eh, better than wiggers I guess.

Goth girls are CUTE

Just people unwilling to accept the fact that they are not unique, worth more or inherently different than other people. It's hard to accept the monotonous, unspecial life of a 9 to 5 worker.

Great pump and dumps

Just children playing dress ups although the promotion of depression and an hero is a positive.

I like their clothes, music, and how they take an interest in old European culture. I used to think they were all leftards but most of the ones in my local rock bar are nat soc.

Future Trump voters; when they stop being tryhard.

t. former goth

This.

I enjoy the music of Evanescence
... wait... is that right?

No, we don't. Liar.

just another dead subculture

what happened to subcultures?

I am sort of okay with any counter-culture which takes people away from the mainstream degeneracy.

I mean, the Kardashians are a major part of the mainstream culture, and they are literally a family of coalburning gossipers.
Almost any culture alternative to that will be an improvement.

Extremely degenerate. Some of the girls can be real qts tho.

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When did this come back?

The ginger is kinda hot.

>what happened to subcultures?
No room for 'em. All music is directed at normies now; it's eather dindu shit, electro house or whatever they call it these days, or whispery SJW indie folk.

What's so degenerate about goths? They're the master race subculture that realizes the world is shit and just accepts it.

>he doesn't listen to music from the golden age of goth

If you go out looking like this you are no different from tumblrinas. I had 3 goth gf, since I like corsets and lace stuff, but most of their friends looked like retards.
Pic related, VK is better

The ones that don't take themselves too seriously are really cool.
wouldmakegoodfriends/10

Goth was an acceptable reaction to a society that sucked.

The internet.

Nat soc is left

this

Genre; globalist conformity beat

What's degenerate about it? Goths are usually leaning towards the conservative side of thing since they're all about Victorian-esque stuff.

Are you sure you haven't got them confused with real degenerates like punk rockers or scene kids?

Non-existent these days. Good music though.

When it's done subtly it looks bretty gud. Simple combat boots + black tight jeans >>>> plastic platform shoes and straps all over

What anime is this from, again?

The original image says Bernie
[spoiler]tfw no Trump supporting goth gf. tfw they don't exist./spoiler]

My fucking sides faggot are you for real 9/11 would kek again

>Sup Forums thinks this is degenerate

This. Hot Topic/Tim Burton shit aint Goth.

all of these youth subcultures are shit. goth, hipster, hiphop, metalhead, emo, skater, punk, whatever. they're all just poor attempts at establishing an identity for people who have been robbed of theirs.

that being said, in my experience goths seem to be a lot more redpilled than any other of those 'subcultures'. they also surprisingly have a lot in common with general Sup Forums audience.
>socially awkward
>edgy
>ultra cynical to the point of nihilism.

i'd probably get along with goths pretty well. the attention-whoring outfits are still retarded though.

Original was a Bernie sign, nice shoop fag everyone knows that goths grew up into SJW's

They were the last cool subculture along with 90s ravers. These were both groups that at the least, had new and forward-looking aesthetic ideas that pointed to some concept of a future that would be different from today.

Since then everything has become about half-ironic nostalgia re-appropriation that just waters down everything it touches to the point of meaninglessness.

>t. former goth
what does the "t." mean? I'm not up to date on what you kids use these days.

ask the finngolians

think of it as 'signed by'

Are goths still a thing these days?
I thought they all died out / evolved into emos then into hipsters

I also like when it looks DIY rather than manufactured by chinese child laborers like in OP

Could never dress like this myself though.

when you end a letter with "regards, user", in finnish it is "t. user"
it became a meme on some finnish chan, i think it was originally associated with spurdo. more recently it crossed over to the whole t. alberto barbosa thing on Sup Forums

terveiset - regards

I couldn't believe it when I first saw cybergoths with belts and tubes in their hair. Fucking retards.

Terveisin, not terveiset.

nah, thats just paintshop

really
fucking
gay

but I would smash a goth gurl tho

wait they are still a thing?

I thought teenage subcultures just got rolled into the wide hipster category

anyway goths are edgy faggots but mostly they are kids of above-average intelligence from good families who grow out of this shit by age 20 and then never speak about it to anyone again

as subcultures go its not that bad, just annoying

goth chicks are often kinky hot, goth guys are just sad faggots

>be goth
>only get goth pussy
>goth pussy smells like flat beer
>learn about the occult
>suck Poe's dick in /lit/
>better quality drugs than mexicunts or blacks
>have the good grace to attempt suicide when you know you're beat
>wear black and die in a heatwave
>easy to redpill though

>nat soc is left
NSDAP incorporated elements of both right and left wing policies. Moderate centrism, if you will

They were cool back when they were thin. Now all the women are Hampires and there's not even a 7/10 to be found.

Also the scene died after the Deathrock Revival of the early 2000's. Anything these days is necrophelia.

I listened to similar music like In Flames, Sirenia, Burzum, Epica, Nightwish, etc.

I sympathized with them and found the chicks hot and the style at least aesthetically pleasing in some circumstances as long as it wasn't vibrant and over the top. Plus it's pretty much exclusively white, or at least was when I found out about it.

They broadly seem to enjoy things of legitimate beauty and traditionalist European style. They are the most tolerable light weight "nihilists".
I feel like I could have easily gone through a Goth stage if not for being extra autistic and too into military shit and video games.

Oh, thanks
That's 'with regards' then, right?

>2016 and still not realizing that goths were literally right about everything
>tfw, lacking courage, you succumbed to pressure and tried fit in, resulting in just becoming a failed normie. instead of embracing the counter-culture to which your disposition naturally belonged
>tfw you will never have a heroin-addicted goth qt3.14 with dark semicircles of lebensmuede beneath her eyes
>tfw you will never pour into each other meme-intensified pure romantic love alone against a world of normies whom mass culture has deprived of dignity
>tfw you will never suicide pact by the riverside a la von Kleist while still in the full flower of your beauty and youth as a testament to the purity of your ideals

Those aren't actual goth bands but they are on the alternative side. Real goth is 80s music like The Cure, Specimen, 45 grave, Christian Death, Siouxie and the Banshees and Sisters of Mercy.

Techno interests me.

Useless in bed.

Hot, that's how all women should dress.

>you will never be a faggy degenerate nightfucker
Sounds good to me

Any good goth vids?

>tfw no Russian goth gf

As a group, they were anti-materialist without being indulgent ascetics about it, very literate, open minded, equally willing to scrap or talk it out, and on the whole based.
You folks wouldnt like that despite many things you would appreciate, they were very tolerant of alternative sexuality (though they gave trannies a sideways look when they became obnoxious about it: most goth trannies werent, however) and thought that Protestants were plebs. They didnt mind Catholics or Orthodox as much, though. You wouldnt get the self-deprecating irony that defined the scene, either. All the dressing up and melodrama was about making fun of how people think they can escape their deaths by obsessing over trivial temporal shit.

Its a dead scene now, though. You kids really missed out.

Are you seriously comparing national socialism to moderate centrism?

On topic: goths are just teens trying to find their identity. I went through a goth/emo phase myself. I still like the music.

Well it might depend a bit, as Finnish words can be bent and twisted in about 2953 ways. "Terveisin user" means "(with) regards, user", but "Terveiset user" doesn't really mean anything. "Kerro hänelle terveiset" means "send him my regards", so terveiset is also a real word, though.

I never go out of my way to listen to them but I like The Cure, Christian Death, and Sisters of Mercy from what I've heard. Old Sirenia is basically Death Metal Sisters of Mercy.

>I feel like I could have easily gone through a Goth stage if not for being extra autistic and too into military shit and video games

You could have been a rivethead

>tfw I'll never be a goth in the 80s and early 90s
Just kill me tbqh senpai

Liz Vicious if I'm correctly picking up what you're putting down.

Disney land still does Bats day every year in June. It's a day where they celebrate Goth and they sell bat shaped cookies and they bring their Halloween stuff out.

*BRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!!!*

beautiful language

hnnnng

If you described that as the end of the goth movement to a goth back in the 80s or 90s, they might have slit their wrists right there. It is the very antithesis of the movement, and in some respect, what we all knew would end it.

>goths

A goth who literally lives in the 80s has an excuse, in 2016 it's just lol

Even "real" goth music (Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, Coil) has generally aged poorly thanks to synthetic 80s production. As a subculture I see it as sort of a juvenile attempt to reclaim Romanticism, but I think black metal did that better and in a more masculine way later.

i want a goth gf :(

>rivethead

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Mitä vittua sinä oikein sanoit minusta, senkin pikku narttu? Tiedäkin, että valmistuin aikoinani luokkani huippuna Laivaston Erikoisjoukoista, ja että olen osallistunut lukuisiin iskuihiin Al-Quaedaa vastaan, ja että minulla on yli 300 vahvistettua tappoa. Olen saanut koulutusta gorillasodankäynnistä ja olen koko Yhdysvaltojen asevoimien paras tarkka-ampuja. Et ole minulle mitään muuta, kuin yksi kohde muiden joukossa. Liiskaan sinut tarkkuudella, jonka veroista ei ole koskaan ennen tällä pallolla nähty, näetpä vittu vielä. Luuletko, että voit vain puhua minulle tuollaista paskaa Internetissä? Mieti uudestaan, molo. Tälläkin hetkellä olen ottamassa yhteyttä salaiseen, koko Yhdysvallat kattavaan vakoilijaverkostooni ja IP-osoitettasi jäljitetään juuri nyt, joten parasta varautua myrskyyn, mulkku. Tämä myrsky puhaltaa pois sen säälittävän heinän, jota sinun elämäksi kutsutaan. Olet vitun vainaa, kakara. Voin olla missä vain, milloin vain, ja voin tappaa sinut yli seitsemälläsadalla tavalla, ja sekin vain paljain nyrkein. Sen lisäksi, että olen huippukoulutettu kamppailulajeissa, minulla on myös käytössäni koko Yhdysvaltojen Laivaston asearsenaali; otan siitä kaiken irti ja lakaisen sillä surkean olemuksesi pois tältä mantereelta, senkin pikku paska. Jos vain olisit tiennyt, millaisen epäpyhän kostoretken "nokkela" pieni kommenttisi oli kaatamassa niskaasi, niin ehkä olisit malttanut kielesi. Mutta et voinut, et malttanut, ja nyt maksat siitä hinnan, senkin kirottu idiootti. Paskon raivoa kaikkialle yllesi ja tulet hukkumaan siihen. Olet vitun vainaa, nappula!

it's usually a teenage phase of self-discovery or actually the lack of it.

sucks tbqh. it should pass and that's that. but people who all black constantly and never anything else, you can bet your fucking ass there is something wrong with them.

it is. put some nice clothes on, you bitch.

I remember the baby bat sperg lord goth kid at my school pushing bats day and thinking to myself "that is the faggiest shit I have ever fucking heard". Goth kids in rural areas are 100x better than the metropolitan goths. For example; metropolitan goth night out is going to one kids house, listening to Bauhaus and bitching about life. Rural goth kid night is finding an abandoned building with 5 other goths, painting a pentagram on the floor of it, doing some coke and having an orgy while listening to Ministry. Fucking city kids couldn't keep up.

>You have to admit they have some pretty cool music.

nah, i do like punk music though Tbh
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>clash
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>gorillasodankäynnistä
I love you

Jesus fuck what is that picture?!

When I said rivethead I should have clarified and said Al Fucking Jourgensen

That rear tyre

You might like deathrock bands like Rudimentary Peni or Christian Death.

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Not even half goth you fucking normie.

Rear tires do not interest him as much as Techno

Punk is full of faggot commies. Give Burzum a try, Varg was "MUH EUROPEAN ETHNOSTATE" before it was cool.

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>ravers
>cool

Pick one.

Ravers are the ultimate degenerates.

cory in the house

God I haven't been to a bats day in ages.

Fashion style looks ridiculous and juvenile, just slightly better than punk, as punk was taken over by vivien westwood style champagne socialists, so at least goth is apolitical as far as I'm aware, maybe more of them on the right side of the spectrum as I'm there's influences from bands like Burzum.

When I was 15 I used to wear slipknot hoodies/black clothes and I fancied vampire girls on myspace, that was about as goth as I got.

Low power level is what it is

Yeah I agree
I can understand teenagers attaching themselves to a sub group.
It's weird when people are like 21+ and still goth or whatever. I just want to tell them to grow up and act like an adult

I remember them in the 90s and early 2000s, I didn't know they still existed.

Gothfag, here.

>goth is dead
No. It's right where it should be, a healthy mix of oldschool goths who just get dressed up and go to the club on weekends, and babybats who keep fresh blood in the scene

>Are goths degenerate?
They're by a wide margin the friendliest and most close knit group I've encountered. They're also guaranteed 90+% white.

>goth is cringy
Goth makes fun of itself more than normies do. Alot of it is purposefully cheesy. No one believes they're a vampire (except for that one guy at every city's goth scene, but everyone humors him)

>goth sucks
Emos are not goth. Hot Topic is not goth. This is the goth paradox. If you enjoy dark or alternative music and look or dress in that fashion, you will be called goth even if you deny it *Andrew Eldritch. Conversely, if you call yourself goth, you will be denied as not a "real" goth.

Link related, what I consider goth. Paradox dictates you disagree.
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