Anyone else having trouble finding themselves in the political spectrum?

Anyone else having trouble finding themselves in the political spectrum?

Based on books and logic I'd lean towards classical liberal/conservative in the tradition of Burke, Locke, some Austrian school writers etc. but then I go out and look at all the degeneracy going on in urban areas, women being complete sluts, people not even bothering to use basic manners.... I just can't see how liberalism could fix this.

But on the other hand fascism/authoritarian conservatism would add even more anxiety to human existance.

Where to go?

My political foundation is racial discrimination. Everything else springs from that well.

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>fascism/authoritarian conservatism

user, Monarchy way is the best way. A Catholic Monarchy is the perfect form of government that God said it was the best for us.
That's why you see jews spreading libertarianism, liberalism, communism, secularism, etc.

Swallow the red pill all the way down.

So reducing the power of the state in favor of giving more power to the Catholic Church? Look at Pope Francis, do you really want the people to follow his ideas on society?

Ideally I'd choose liberalism with strong borders but then how do you stop degeneracy from spreading?

Until you get a dumb degenerate inbred monarch that fucks everything up and you can't do anything about it.

Just go with liberalism and try to teach people basic decency and rationalize old traditions. If it goes doesnt work and people fall further into moral decadence, fascism will come naturally and it wont ask if you want it or not.

He´s from central Europe (95+% white), there is little use for racism here.

We have ethics and rhetoric in school however the (((media))) is a more powerful opinion shaper than an education for most of the public sphere.

I guess the state should spread positive social propaganda without it enforcing anything but that is another burden on the tax payer.

>monarchy
Cuck-tier

I want a liberalism without the influence of baby boomers.

Most people dont even trust the media anymore.

Best would be to promote the good concepts on which both left and right can agree on. Such as volunteer community projects, taking care of elderly, folk festivals, love instead of tinder etc.

Why do you need to place yourself on a political spectrum?

Classifying yourself as left or right is a form of insecurity and cuckoldry. Be neutral, you filthy little third world monkey.

Liberalism is fine in small doses.

Problem is that jewish/communist tactics revolves around finding destructive tendencies in society and encouraging them until everything derails.

Without subversive foreign influences we could afford to slack off a bit.

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The best is probably just ideology mixing.

I like clerical fascism.

Saved, underrated.

Everyday when I wake up, I look outside and cry

>It's not 1750s Prussia.

I consider myself a socially conservative person, but I hesitate in letting the government interfere in people's lives, for the simple purpose that that is a step further to authoritarianism

But... I look to today's world, I look to the disrespect to tradition, culture, morality and I can't help but think that there's no way to make people respect themselves and each other, as well as their ancestry and past in an effective way

I fear myself when such thoughts come to me. I doubt myself and God's role for me in a society where I can be ostracized for defending an unborn's right to live. I don't wish to become that what I fear the most, but to watch as men and women alike abandon everything what the people have fought for generations in favor of themselves and only themselves worries me that there's no other way

I try to believe that if someone comes forward to show our mistakes maybe we can go back to a society with self-respect and pride for itself, as naïve as that makes me. I don't hate others, I don't hate the fact that we have a society where individuals can have individual beliefs, but everything tells me we made a huge mistake along the way.

>Support equal rights open borders and wellfare.
>The system get's abused out of it's ass and is broken, cheap labor from other countries is infesting higher tier countries and this is not a meme, people rather have wellfare around me then go to work these days and equal rights have turned into the absurd.

I am a liberal at hearth but the current situation has turned me right winged i really can't stand all of this shit and it's ridiculous to be called a racist or bigot for wanting to tone down the shit that's happening currently.

Anyone else having trouble finding themselves in the medical spectrum?

Based on books and logic I'd lean toward classical doctor/patient in the tradition of Hippocrates, Hitler, Plato, some Medieval school writers etc. but then I go out and look at all the disease going on in hospital areas, wounds being completely infected, people not even bothering to use basic treatments... I just can't see how hairy apes from the jungle could fix this.

But on the other hand, traditional antiseptics/medicine would hurt a lot

Where to go?

>I just can't see how liberalism could fix this.
It can't directly fix it, but it can cut off the subsidies that degeneracy receives through state redistribution and even more importantly it would stop the appropriation of the wealth that functional communities and individuals suffer from.

I recommend you to read some Hans-Hermann Hoppe and other austro-libertarian/anarcho-capitalist philosophers because they talk about these things from a traditional morality point of view, being catholics etc.

I'm a nationalist conservative. We need folkish identity and government policy here, but not authoritarianism. For America, we should be one nation with many folks. Policies that I would like to see implemented here are

- illegal immigration quashed by means of a wall, a nationwide requirement to verify the citizenship status of all employees and punitive enforcement for illegals that are caught.
- allow companies and student organizations to discriminate based on race
- remove afermative action from government jobs and public school admissions
-voluntary state supported SA/HJ type civilian organizations for each racial group to rebuild the American community
-government anti race mixing propaganda
-policies that encourage women and men to get married and have kids
-Russia type anti-homo propaganda laws
-immigration policies designed to keep the white majority

But wouldn't that just isolate communities from the overall American people? I can't see how an Apartheid government can say that it's acting for the unity of the people while segregating people based on uncontrollable variants

being a centrist doesn't mean you haven't picked a side, it means you realize the left and right wing are part of the same bird

Pope Francis is a liberal cuck in line with the majority of Catholic church post Vatican II.

And I agree with Brazilbro, Monarchy with a philosopher-king, proper religious foundations would be the most ideal form of government, however it would be impossible to implement in our current degenerate age.

It wouldn't be an apartheid government as state employment would not discriminate based off of race and segregation in public spaces would not be mandated.

It may be worth making the SA/HJ organizations not divided racially, but organized locally which in America would de facto result in a high degree of segregation.

The hard part is that modern society has not yet suffered enough to embrace Traditionalism.

La, La, land is sooooooo much fun (former Hedonist myself) that until one is faced with severe struggle, they will not just up and leave it.

As long as food is easy to get, there will be no sanity in society.

>whig history: the analogy

Why not become an accelerationist and do things like attack/bomb the Internet or power grid?

You will have to destroy the Money Printing Advantage first.

The Money Printers are the people behind all the degeneracy. It gives them cheap labor and revenge on whitey.

I think degeneracy would end pretty fast in a classical liberal society. Single mothers and their niglets would be left to starve, drug addicts would be left to die, and the behavior of people would change.

Not unless we somehow turned back technology.

Old liberal society was non-degenerate mostly because there was no technology to make degeneracy easy to access for the masses. Yes it had voting and individual rights, but actions were phyiscally limited because there was no mass communication or tech to let people be degenerate without immediate consequences

That's very indirect and reckless.

If the people don't know about the Money Printing Scheme at the heart of all Fiat Currency, they will fall prey to it forever.

Spread the word on the Money Printing Advantage until a huge number of people demand banking reform.

That's if you want to win in the long run.

If you want short term violence you need to step back and gain some perspective.

Take the easy money (fiat money printing) away and the food gets more expensive too.

Implying that something good will happen under Catholicism. Every Catholic country is shit. The best Catholic countries (Spain, and Portugal) are shit compared to Germans, or Americans.

This new technology could also be used to spread non-degenerate behavior.

I think a good example is the surge of the right wing thanks to the internet. The internet has allowed a lot of right wing free media to reach audiences which would've never been exposed to such content had they got all their news from TV or newspapers.

>Implying the Internet hasn't just spread degeneracy in more insidious ways than ever before

yes there's more "right" wingers but they're really just freedom obsessed types who hate SJW's but are addicted to porn and instant entertainment, which are in many ways worse problems than the surface neo-left shit. And just look at Milo. The Internet has basically dragged the right further and further left, and pacified the masses. Even this site is part of the problem since it encourages sitting in front of a screen and not acting.

I see your point.

To keep the Internet we'd need to go full China, or even further, and make it only for information and completely banned for any form of entertainment or socialization. As in, ban home internet service completely

>Anyone else having trouble finding themselves in the political spectrum?
No. I'm a moderate constitutionalist, which basically doesn't exist in politics.

>free markets are good
>but capitalism as a realization of free markets has problems
>government should be able to curb those excesses
>but strong governments have problems
>so we have a constitution to limit the government
No political movement in the US believes all these things simultaneously. The right wingers generally like the constitution and capitalism but erroneously transfer the benefits of free markets to capitalism and have always been strong federalists. The democrats believe in curbing the excesses of capitalism but all their "solutions" destroy free markets too, and they don't believe constitutional limitations of government should be binding. Neither party respects state sovereignty, and wing parties are just all these flaws turned up to 11.

Sounds kind of like Teddy Roosevelt

But why stimulate separatism? It doesn't bring blacks and whites together. If you want a strong sense of national identity between both groups, there shouldn't be separation, but integration. Divisivness brings nothing to any nation

I don't think that would ever work. Banning things people are used to seldom does.

I think it's more about parental responsibility than anything else. Making sure your kids don't spend too much time hooked to the computer. And not buying them smartphones when they turn 6 years old...

I don't necessarily agree that most internet right wingers are lolbertarians just bee urself types. Sure there are a lot of those, but I do think that some people (such as myself) have genuinely become more conservative, in the sense that I gave up porn, try to act more responsible, and started reading the western canon.

Over my dead body

That's the problem of course

then again, banning the Internet even if people revolt would be just the shitstorm needed to fix things perhaps

Thing is you're still right that something that extreme would never go over. This is the paradox of dealing with technology. You're stuck between either extreme decadance or extreme control. No in-between, like the organic society you had before the technology was introduced. Ideally the best solution would be to erase certain things from the world's memory but this is impossible.

God isn't real fucking stupidass

Neither blacks nor whites want that. Look at stuff like BLM, black people aren't interested in merging together with white people. America without the white majority will cast whites as the scapegoats and implement leftist policies as we see in South Africa.

As an alternative to this, I think that it would be good to encourage folk identity in the USA and maintain the traditional racial composition of the country. Blacks and whites won't ever see each other as one and the same. We need to recognize this and try to form a mutually beneficial partnership.

Well don't worry too much, when niggers and spics make up the majority of the population I doubt they'll manage to maintain the internet infrastructure.

Honestly I'm a complete mess. Just trying to make ends meet by working hard and being a good person. The rest is shitty details. I don't much care for corporations, identity politics, and fuck the left (though I have a soft-spot for government assistance for those in genuine need).

>small, strong government
>death penalty
>deportation of all muslims, all illegal immigrants, all foreign criminals, all of their families and their assets seized
>complete withdrawal from NATO and the EU
>massive investment in nuclear power
>clear message that any state attempting sanctions against us or undermining us will receive a nuclear attack
>voting age raised to thirty
>disbanding of all unions, leaders arrested, assets seized
>abandonment of state involvement in arts, literature, television and so on
>ramp up the exploitation of african countries for their natural resources
>deregulate the arms trade

> all that make up

gross, thats the kind of stuff you save to your pc? you want your pc to get sick?

>"Just don't have a single opinion about anything"
I bet you're the type who calls both sides stupid whenever there's a major issue in the news. You must be so intellectual and above it all.

Good ol' Milo and his entryism.

Bingo. All these conservative liberals struggling to figure out the small goverment, and yet they don't understand that there's no smaller goverment than a personal goverment of a dictator or monarch, providing they rule according to the Natural Law.