I recently finished TNG for the first time...

I recently finished TNG for the first time. I've been avoiding Sup Forums since I started watching it to not be swayed by public opinion, but I'm curious as to how my tastes align.

I think I prefer TOS overall, they're both great shows, but I favor the pulpy sci-fi adventures just a little bit more than moral and diplomatic issues.

My favorite episodes in no particular order were Gambit pt 1, Schisms, Family, The Offspring and Genesis.

Ranking the characters would go;
Barclay>Picard>Riker>Q>Geordi>Worf>Data>Wesley>Dr Crusher>Tasha>Troi>Lwaxana

Worst episode was easily the clipshow one, but for proper episodes, probably the one where the Doctor gets fucked by a ghost from a candle and Troi keeps commenting on how much she likes it.

I also watched the initial story of DS9. Sisco, Bashir and Quark all seem good. Odo and Dax are both interesting, but they didn't have a whole lot of personality going for them. Dukat seems like he could get annoying if he's in every other episode and Kira was a bitch. I really hope the prophet storyline doesn't carry on for too long, as it was a total bore.

Genesis is severely underrated

DS9 is quite good once the story gets going, it has hands the best character developments out of all the Star Trek shows.

I've heard as much. All the characters are at least somewhat enjoyable with the exception of Kira.

I'm on the third episode now. Garat is great.

>Odo and Dax are both interesting, but they didn't have a whole lot of personality going for them
Odo is the only one of the two that ever has one unfortunately.

>Dukat seems like he could get annoying if he's in every other episode
About 1 in 5 episodes

>I really hope the prophet storyline doesn't carry on for too long, as it was a total bore.
Ehh. It will show up occasionally, the Bajorans are always going on about muh prophets but there's probably only a dozen or so episodes where they actually play a role in events. A lot of people didn't like them because it's religion in Star Trek, but they really are just wormhole aliens if you pay attention, so it never bothered me that much.

Just realized BBC America edits their episodes of TNG to fit in more commercials

>probably the one where the Doctor gets fucked by a ghost from a candle and Troi keeps commenting on how much she likes it.

fun fact: The script for this episode was actually based on a short story which in turn was basically an Anne Rice fanfic. So what you get is basically a third-degree Ann Rice story, set in the Star Trek universe. Needless to say that you're not the only one who hated this episode.

Shit, i remember hating binge watching the last season and a half of DS9 because they all where about the same thing, same reason i hated binge watching season 3 of ENT.

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>Barclay>Picard>Riker>Q>Geordi>Worf>Data>Wesley>Dr Crusher>Tasha>Troi>Lwaxana
I'm surprised to find a list where Wesley isn't dead last, most people hate him and rightfully so because he's shit.

>the one where the Doctor gets fucked by a ghost from a candle and Troi keeps commenting on how much she likes it
I fucking hated Sub Rosa, even though I usually like Dr. Crusher, her episode was the absolute worst.

>Dukat seems like he could get annoying if he's in every other episode and Kira was a bitch
Dukat is based. Kira is interesting in the fact that she is an insufferable bitch 50% of the time, and pretty decent the other 50%.

>I really hope the prophet storyline doesn't carry on for too long, as it was a total bore.
I didn't like it much either but it ends up being a big part of the story. Don't worry though, because it in no way kill the show, DS9 is fantastic. It's arguably the best Trek, because it has a lot of the high points the TNG has, but with a linear story and continuity throughout the show.

You hated the Dominion War plot?

Wesley is good when he's not actually a member of the crew. If it wasn't for the early episodes or the one where he tries Indian drugs once then abandons his life.

I'm onto episode six of DS9 now. Odd, Quark and Bashir are my favorites so far. Kira is a lot less annoying while Dax is becoming a bore. It's a real shame because the slug thing is a great idea. Quark and Odo's interactions are a favorite so far.

> If it wasn't for the early episodes or the one where he tries Indian drugs once then abandons his life, I would have put him a fair bit higher. *

>I am Tosk
Such a great episode. All the people who say DS9 isn't Trek because no exploration clearly never got that far.

Wesly is da MVP

whoa nigga i aint readin all dat shit

It took me a while before Jadzia grew on me, yeah she starts off pretty bland but eventually she has some really good interactions with the Sisko and Worf

Chief Security Officer Gowron here
I must report that Deanna Troi's mother came aboard the ship again and refused to stop irritating the crew, so I stuffed her inside one of the plasma conduits on deck 12 with some annoying plants I found in the guest quarters.
Crisis averted.

Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiles, have you seen my Vidiian Ejaculating Cacti anywhere?

Dax will continue to be boring. Which is a shame because there'll be handful of pretty good Dax-centric episodes that suffer a bit because Terry Farrel is so dry. Kira will spend the whole series going on about MUH OPPRESSION but the quality of the writing improves so much that it all becomes pretty engaging. If you're not feeling DS9 at the start then skip over to S01E19 to get a hint of the quality of stories you can expect in later seasons.

>thinking Dax was around for any reason but her looks
Yeah, it doesn't get much better. Just sit back and let yourself be entranced by Terry Farrell's eyes.

My download list is stunted, I'm on the episode after. Watching Q's ex-hoe jerk off Quarks ears.

Favorite episode so far would be the one where the guy faked his death by killing his clone.

C-c-commander?

Help me little one!
In the name of the Chalice of Riix, please help me!

how do you like Stargate?

In a minute mother

I can't stand Wesley. He's an arrogant, uppity little shit all the time. Even before he becomes an ensign, he acts like he knows more than anyone. He's annoying as fuck and all of his 'friendships' with the crew felt forced, but they never got rid of him because he was Gene Roddenburry's self-insert.

As far as DS9 goes, Quark and Bashir are great, and once Bashir and O'Brien become friends, the show reaches a whole new level. It's been argued to be the best bromance in Star Trek. Dax is boring and stays boring. She has a few good episodes, but more often than not, the vast majority of her lines are shitty quips. Quark and Odo's repartee stays consistently great throughout the show.

I'm loving it so far. Complete opposite to early Tng where it felt like a porn parody of Tos with no porn

Yeah, my hopes for a cute alien slug with character traits equal to spock or data are steadily fading away.

I liked the few episodes I've seen. I'll be watching it or Babylon-5 after Enterprise.

I can totally understand why people dislike him, but he never bothered me too much.

How did you feel about Starship Mine, the one where Picard goes full John McClane? One of the most underrated TNG episodes.

My sides are gone

The one with Tuvoks actor?
Picard was great in that one. Seeing him get all excited about horse riding was really fun, as was Riker and Data dealing with their captors too. Definitely one of the better episodes.

I loved Data's attempts at learning small talk. One of the funniest Trek moments.

>Mr. Connelly, I'm Orion Syndicate

It was definitely a high point of Data's for me. I found him to be such a mixed bag. At the start I adored his character, he was my favorite by far, but as the series when on I began to steadily despise him.

You have some fucking shit tastes if those are your favorite episodes

Character ranking is decent though

and remember that Dukat does nothing wrong when you watch DS9

they forget the prophets exist until like season 6 mostly

All Good Things was a weak finale. Prove me wrong.

Season 1 Kira is not the same as the Kira in the rest of the show

you're a faggot, and faggots are always wrong

>Lwaxana last
OPINION NICE AND TRASH

Was it murder?

The only weak part of All Good Things is that Nemesis erased it.

NOOOOOOO BEVERLY PLEASE HAVE MERCY I LOVE YOU AAAGGGHGHHGHGHHHH

I think the "Future Picard acting crazy and no one believing him" parts were really painful and difficult to watch. Kinda lowered the quality of the episode.

holy shit

Kill yourself

He had a disease that was supposed to give him dimentia, they all thought it was early symptoms of the disease.

really? Thats the only way I can watch it.

>Orion Syndicate in DS9, all humans and assorted ayylmaos
>we don't see big green Orions and big green Orion tits until Enterprise

Were they purposely trying to make you dislike Bajorans in DS9? They're just so annoying

Agreed. Seems rather silly for a grand sci-fi show to rely on muh time travel as much as TNG did. And they center the goodbye episode around it. Also muh amino-acids. The best part was Worf vs. Riker, it was a glimpse of what TNG could've truly been if the showrunners weren't such snowflakes.

> I think I prefer TOS

Did you also prefer Balok and his puppet?
Or the Greek gods? Quality TV right there.

NO, WE HAVE TO SAVE HUMANITY!

Yes, I did.

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I can understand being bored or uninterested in the Bajorans, but to actively dislike them makes me think that you tip your wide-brimmed hat.

>WE
>WUZ
>SPACE
Seriously thought this makes no sense, how the fuck did they get the stupid sailboat into orbit in the first place if they were still writing on scrolls and carving their records into rocks when this existed?

It makes no sense because you make assumptions about their technology level based only on your own gut feelings.

They clearly had more than scrolls and rocks.

You gotta be careful when telling people to skip.

I assume that you were recommending Duet, but according to some guides, Emissary is just 1 episode, so S01E18 is Duet and S01E19 is In The Hands Of The Prophets.

"Captain's log, Stardate 47283.9..."

"Once again Wesley managed to get past the childlocks on his replicator. Deck 3 report that it will be three more days before the smell of lube and burning rubber gets out of the corridors. Meanwhile, I find myself troubled over the diplomatic consequences of Worf getting blind drunk on blood wine and vomiting all over the Devraxian Amabassador last week. One of these days I really must ship him off to some space station somewhere."

"Captains log, supplmental: Maybe I should do that for Barclay as well? What's the worst that could happen?"

"Captains log, Stardate 47285.1: I found Data and Geordie drinking my non-replicated Wines. I forced them to drink the entire bottle as a lesson. They assure me that it wont happen again. For the sake of discipline I confined them to their quarters for the evening and disabled their replicators from serving them dinner.
As well as these incidents, I am also disturbed by reports from the Romulan neutral zone that the Romulan mining commission is outfitting their overly angry mining captains with Borg Hybrid technology. I feel that this might pose an unacceptable risk should something happen to Romulus causing him to go on a massive revenge spree. As usual, the admiralty ignores me out of spite. Plus Janeway aparrantly stated that "Nothing bad ever came from co-opting Borg tech! NOTHING. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HEARD."
The bitch."

"Captains log, supplemental: Well, at least it keeps her out of the Captains chair. Which is the important thing."

>He had a disease that was supposed to give him dimentia, they all thought it was early symptoms of the disease.
Yes, I know.

Captains log, Stardate 47285.5: Ensign Ricky pointed out that our old style Ceremonial Garb looked like a dress. Now it's all I can see. Thank god Starfleet switched up to that classy white number. Indeed, it was only at the last diplomatic function with the Orion Legitimate Business Concord that Commander Riker impressed to me that said uniform was "the greatest pussy magnet ever". I find myself agreeing, as we were both swimming in green skinned bitches that day.
And as the legendary James T Kirk once said: "Isn't that REALLY what Starfleet is all about?"

Captains log, supplemental: Got caught in a Tholaron Storm in the Epstein-McCartney Nebula. Had to reverse the polarity a couple of times to shift it. Same old same old.

Captains log, Stardate 47286.2: Had to pretend to look interested as Troi claimed she could sense feelings again. I don't know why she still does this, she knows none of us care. Maybe she doesn't? Maybe she has no ability whatsoever and she's been fucking with us all this time? Hell, maybe she genuinely thinks she can sense emotions and her family can't bring themselves to tell her that she's the Betazoid equivalent of a blind man who doesn't know he's black? You could not fathom how glad I was when the ships counsellor position got shifted down to the bowls of the ship instead of the bridge during the war.
Data superglued hair on his lip from the Ships Barbershop in an effort to make himself look manlier. Unfortunately Geordi intentionally sabotaged the effort by telling him to base it on Charlie Chaplin. He basically looked like the robot Hitler. Thankfully Worf has no tact and pointed it out fairly quickly. I could not imagine what Ensign Goldmans reaction would have been."

Captains log, supplemental: Apparently Ensign Goldman got killed when I, Commander Riker and Geordi went down to Planet Castrato 7. I thought that was Ensign Bucky. Huh.

>The blueprints for a spaceship are on an old parchment scroll

How is this not retarded and imply they have bronze age tech at best

Captains log, Stardate 47287.5: Barclay slipped on a banana peel and accidentially activated the planetary self destruct that subsequently destroyed the entire Moldavarian Race. This was impressive since as best as I can tell, the Moldavarian race don't even HAVE a Banana aggregate native to their world. They must have imported the fucking thing just for this function.
In all fairness, this time I think we have to say it wasn't his fault. He's taking it like you would imagine. I've advised him to work through it with Counsellor Troi.
That'll teach the bitch to claim that she "detects great feelings of patronisation" right in the middle of a fucking diplomatic dinner.

Captains log, supplemental: Who even builds something like a Planetary Self Destruct device anyway? Let alone have it activated by a lever? I mean, REALLY?

Captains log, Stardate 47289.6: I've noticed a lot of people keep declining the position of Ensign lately. It turns out that your survival odds whilst an Ensign are something like 20%? I pointed out that it's hardly a death sentence, look at Wesley, he's been an Ensign for years and he still. refuses. to. die.
The sentient cloud that kidnapped us this week made us play chess with Lenin. We defeated it by pelting it with chess pieces until it whined so hard it's mother cloud appeared and told it to stop being cruel to dumb animals.

Captains log supplemental: Someone asked me why were called the Flagship if we don't have any flag officers. If he'd actually ever MET any of our Admirals he wouldn't be pushing the issue. Janeway is probably the LEAST psychotic of them, and only midway in terms of incompetency. Only last week Admiral Gannet was asking me to pick up some space geese for lunch since I was "in the area". This rather hampered our ability to go silent in the Romulan neutral zone.

Captains log, Stardate 47291.2: Woke up in a parralel universe where everyone's gender is inverted. Must be Tuesdays. I downloaded roughly 14tb of porn in my Commbadge before they found a way to put me back.

Captains log, Stardate 47291.4: The Cardassians forgot who was the boss around here again and I had to pretend to be diplomatic for all of fifteen minutes before hurling their boarded mining shuttles into each other with the tractor beam whilst going "stop hitting yourself". I then got them to apologise to me after they surrendered. I discovered that Geordie has had X-Ray vision literally from the day we met. I've agreed not to tell the rest of the crew that he's been looking through the cabin walls of the womens changing rooms as long as he agrees to forward me any future recordings.

Captains log supplemental: Caught Worf telling people about the time he was the Captain of a prototype Assault Carrier called the Typhon. I had to take him aside and tell him that if I'M not allowed to talk about Hydrans, Kzinti or the General War of 168 - 185 then he CERTAINLY isn't allowed to talk about that.

Captains log, Stardate 47294.6: Had to pay Rikers bail at Risa again. The judge has told him if he starts one more public orgy he's going to be barred from the planet. Otherwise, shoreleave has been fine, all the blow and hookers the crew could want, as long as you don't mind everyone wearing togas. Wesley built himself a female companion bot that has proceeded to friendzone him in a single day, I laughed so hard a little bit of wee came out. Geordie managed to mod Data so that booze affected him, I haven't seen them for five days, I fear for their safety, and I can't seem to find Worf anywhere.
An Ensign Micky still managed to kill himself by falling down a flight of stairs and into the Riker Orgy. As ways to go, the rest of the ensigns agree this was probably one of the better ones.

Captains log supplemental: Turns out Worf had been stuck in a Turbolift all week and had to eat his own leg to survive. When we showed him the emergency replicator built into each turbolift for EXACTLY those situations he was more than a little embarrassed. Dr Crusher says she can regrow his leg via sufficient technobabble in a week or so.

Because you don't know what the Bronze Age is. Scrolls were in wide use after it.

Captains log, Stardate 47295.1: Woke up, realised I was unusually well built and defined. I fully expected a crossover event, and was not dissappointed when a blue time travelling box appeared in the middle of the bridge and a man in a tweed jacket and bowtie came out of it. We basically went through the motions and let him handle all of the problems he probably caused somehow and had the whole thing sown up by teatime. How giant dustbins with plungers for hands are meant to be intimidating I can not imagine. At least it wasn't as aggravating as time with the legion of superpowered humanoids. Or that empire with the planet destroying moon ship. Or the doctor in the time travelling car who looked suspiciously like the Klingon captain who destroyed the USS Oberth a few centuries back.

Captains log supplemental: Why ARE Photon Torpedoes called PHOTON torpedoes anyway?

Captains log, Stardate 47296.5: Ensign Barclay managed to create a sentient blob with his replicator that proceeded to eat half of our Ensign allotment and most of the electronics. Luckily, since parts of it was based on his genetic structure it was deathly allergic to peanut butter, shellfish, milk and the colour purple. We jus threw peanut butter sandwhiches at it until it died.
Apparently he just wanted to make it the size of a gerbil to eat the "space rats" that were living in his walls, and got the mass settings wrong. He's probably gone round the twist, but "space rats" is just retarded enough to be actually true.

Captains log supplemental: As predicted there WERE Space Rats living in a phantom universe space between the walls of Barclay and his next door neighbour. A good dose of technobabble got rid of them in short order. I don't even listen to Data or Geordi anymore, I just smile and nod.

I mean it's all explained in the show, and there would be virtually no tension in the future arc if everyone just thought Picard was his old self so not sure what you want out of it

Captains log, Stardate 47298.8: Managed to find a phantom eighth day of the week to do stuff in. Wasted it watching downloaded porn and having the replicator make spliffs and whisky. Dr Crusher created a nanite that solves all of mankinds medical woes. It proceeded to go sentient if 4 hours and we had to let it go as a result. This is the seventh time that has happened, and Data always ends up looking insufferably smug afterwards. Geordie "accidentially" swapped his body with Commander Rikers during a routine transport. He'd started and orgy in rec room 10 within minutes.

Captains log supplemental: Devised a mathematical formula to work out the correct ratio of Plot to Porn in a Porno. Wrote it on a piece of paper that I later used to make a spliff. Could not remember for the life of me what it was afterwards. Damn!

>I downloaded roughly 14tb of porn in my Commbadge before they found a way to put me back.

Captains log, Stardate 47300.2: Ever since Admiral M'Buto infamously called High Chancellor Ghotok a gigantic dildo, diplomatic conditions with the Klingon Empire have been deteriorating. This morning we were "Strained", by lunch the condition was "cold war". Mid-afternoon? "Openly Hostile". At the moment they are classed as "Collosal Cluster-Kerfuffle". Am currently reminding a squadron of Birds of Prey that we have plot armour and they don't. Have already taken 35% Ensign casualties. I remain optomistic that if I can actually have a conversation with someone in the Klingon High Command I can get them to surrender and apologise to us. However the Klingons seem wise to this and are refusing all of my hails. A constant subspace signal is emitting from the Romulan neutral zone, it is simply the entire Senate laughing continously. It has been transmitting for five days. It is a live broadcast.

Captains log supplemental: Well, that's that. Managed to write the message into the lost moons of Q'onos with the phasers instead. Bit of a lucky break really. Worf not as conflicted over this as you would have thought. Apparantly this is like the 8th time this has happened and he's tired of this bullshit.

>Two cis white heterosexuals kissing

>Captains log supplemental: Someone asked me why were called the Flagship if we don't have any flag officers. If he'd actually ever MET any of our Admirals he wouldn't be pushing the issue. Janeway is probably the LEAST psychotic of them, and only midway in terms of incompetency. Only last week Admiral Gannet was asking me to pick up some space geese for lunch since I was "in the area". This rather hampered our ability to go silent in the Romulan neutral zone.

not bad

Tfw no cutie Vulcan gf

>tfw no qt Vulcan bf

I'll just leave here that there's a free t5 ship for each faction in STO today, and there'll be more stuff in next two days.

>STO
Laugh out loud.