Is communism a real excuse for Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe being a shithole even though they take billions...

Is communism a real excuse for Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe being a shithole even though they take billions out of the EU and are much whiter than the West or is it true that Slavs aren't really white?

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euractiv.com/section/europe-s-east/news/ukraine-rejects-polish-million-refugees-claim/
politico.eu/article/poland-quibbles-over-whos-a-refugee-and-whos-a-migrant-beata-szydlo-asylum-schengen/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech,_Czech,_and_Rus
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism
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Communism combined with Uncle Joe saying "no" to marshall plan's money.

I'm fairly sure we'd be a lot better under commie regime if the Americans were allowed to send gibsmedat (as long as it was used for the intended purpose and not "lol look we got nukes as well".

We'd have a much better headstart.

Well it certainly didn't help. Remember what a shithole East Germany was at the point the wall came down.

All those old Soviet-bloc countries are still mostly struggling. They exited the grip of the Russians without much industry or economy or technology to speak of.

Would be nice to get them up to speed but how does a country simply prop itself up? Especially when the young and the talented are lured away to other countries.

I know a bunch of Bulgarians in America. I asked one of them why, one time, and she said the main occupation of young people in Bulgaria is figuring out how to get out of Bulgaria.

It's been 25 years and you're still a shithole. When are you gonna stop using that excuse?

Probably when we catch up with the the rest of europe?

Do you happen to be retarded?

> when we catch up with the the rest of europe

So never?

well user it is an actual excuse, the soviets suppressed all sorts of intellect that didn't conform to the communist ideal in all their satellite states. and even though those states have had that anti communist intellect for 2 decades, the ideological damage is still raw in the eastern most states.

well he is a leaf so it is probable.

You know that post ww2 South Korea was a literal third world peasant shithole that transformed itself over 20 years?

German y under Hitler recovered in 10 years.

Wut I'm a burger and it's not really much different here than the US I like it

Yea they did, with American money.

You're welcome, my Asian friend.

Our GDP per capita increased 9x since 1990

Holy fuck!!!

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-29/polish-300-billion-aid-package-hides-eu-expansion-flaws


> 300 billion

> More than the entire Marshall plan

> still shithole

Nigga can you read I'm a burger living here it's not a shit hole have you even been? Hell I'd say it's nicer here than when I went to Canada and I have no polish heritage so I'm not bias

>> More than the entire Marshall plan
You're still forgetting about
>60 years of economical oppression with state controlled means of production and no private initiative

> GDP per capita lower than fucking Russia in 2013

What does it prove?
We have EU money, Russia has african tier economy based on natural resources.

Equatorial Guinea which is a 100% african shithole by even the most lax standards has a higher GDP pp than Poland.

You're grasping straws friend

Irish people are rich, yet they are super criminal.
Maybe Americans and Brits were right, Irish people are just monkeys in their blood.

That doesn't mean it's not nice it means there are not many jobs. I didn't say I want to work here. But there economy is one of the few in Europe that has not been hit hard by the economic crisis and get is growing every year. Anyway Poland isn't any different than the US really just no niggers or spics

>known for its Jewish heritage

I'm so sorry

Fuck off Bulglar

Poland's hardly a shithole anymore and life standards here are significantly better than in most of the Eastern Europe

t. Ukrainian

There are not many Jews here thanks to the nazis

So you blame communism yet you get billions in literal free money and you bitch about taking in 3000 refugees you fucking jews

Not related, but funny.

Poland accepted almost 2 million Ukrainian refugees and has been ruled by commies even during the 90s (they only had to rename to socialdemocrats) then again I should've known better than to respond to a fucking leaf, since all you shitskins do is shitpost 24/7.

> Government data, however, shows that despite a jump in the number of Ukrainians trying to settle in Poland since the outbreak of war in eastern Ukraine, Poland hosts a mere three Ukrainian refugees and has granted some protections to around 200 more. Another 65,000 Ukrainians hold residency permits in Poland.

euractiv.com/section/europe-s-east/news/ukraine-rejects-polish-million-refugees-claim/

How is them not taking in refugees a bad thing? At least they're not letting themselves get cucked unlike the west.

>Poland accepted almost 2 million Ukrainian refugees
Thats a bullshit.

To the german government there's no difference between a refugee and an economic migrant, why would our govt make the same distinction?

Undeniable fact is - we took a lot.
Just because they aren't brown muzzies who enjoy blowing themselves up doesn't mean they shouldn't count.

And what has one to do with the other?

Your an idiot I've personally seen more than 200 Ukrainians in Kraków alone. Everyone ignore the leaf he has had to much syrup and has never left maple land because the syrup dollar is worthless

Of coursh

You in Western or Eastern Poland? I heard it makes a difference even there.

I think this will answer your question.

No it's not Sergei come take a look in Poland they are everywhere thanks to you fuckers

The problem? Szydło’s numbers weren’t quite right. Poland actually received 4,616 asylum applications from Ukrainians in the past two years. Of those, two were accepted, according to the government’s Office for Foreigners.

It is true that there may be about a million Ukrainians in Poland. But the vast majority are economic migrants in the country on work visas, as an angry Ukrainian ambassador pointed out the next day.

“In reality there are no Ukrainian refugees in Poland,” Andriy Deshchytsia told the Ukrinform news agency.

However, Szydło’s lax use of data is prompting suspicions that Polish leaders are using Ukrainian labor migration to avoid taking in refugees as part of the European Union’s moribund relocation program

politico.eu/article/poland-quibbles-over-whos-a-refugee-and-whos-a-migrant-beata-szydlo-asylum-schengen/

South west mostly I live in Kraków I know eastern Poland is crap tho

>However, Szydło’s lax use of data is prompting suspicions that Polish leaders are using Ukrainian labor migration to avoid taking in refugees as part of the European Union’s moribund relocation program
So?

This, in Poznań you can hear Ukrainian everyday. Don't mind the though, as long as they aren't robbing and killing people.

I'm more interested in the difference between socialist countries.

Why did Hungary and Bulgaria still saw some growth (slowed by retarded socialism but still there) while Poland remained truly stagnant for half a century?

I've been meaning to visit Poland since they're one of the more uncucked countries in Europe (catholic too) so less degeneracy. Poland and Czechoslovakia (slovakia/czech now pfft) would be great to hit up before I get too old.

>Why did Hungary and Bulgaria still saw some growth (slowed by retarded socialism but still there) while Poland remained truly stagnant for half a century?
Borders and non-WP neighbours

In our case we unironically leached of the ussr as their greatest and most loyal ally. Essentially we resold the petrol they gave us for free to the west.

And infrastructure not completely destroyed with cities razed to the ground by the War.

Prague is a nice city I personally like Kraków better tho Slovakia is empty but the mountains are pretty

poland has been developing much faster after 89 than ireland after 2WW.

It is rather lack of contact with the world at large. We had to invent a lot of things already invented on our own instead of mining the share knowledge of the human kind and focusing on new stuff.

Also lack of competition leading to no need for constant improvement.

I have to see half of my heritage (pol/czech) before it possibly disappears.

Yes. Tell Germans to give us back money for WW II and fuck off.

Thanks Polebros.

how long do you think it will be before your country becomes as rich as the west? rich + 99% white would be pretty cool

Perhaps it began with the breakup of the commonwealth

You know that these billions are as important as about 1, 5-2% GDP? What is more important is the common market, not the EU money that returns back to its original source

Nice merchantry.
Was it pure paradox-interactive-game-like autism on USSR's part or did you really offer any strategic advantage? You don't offer access to any water or mineral resources the Ruskies didn't already have.

Legitimate argument
Germany was razed to the ground more than any other country and rebuilt in 5 years. Same thing in the bombed regions of France and the Netherlands.

>yfw you realise the Jews have almost always been the main driver of the West's economic prosperity

this map is outdated. we've already surpassed greece and portugal in all those stupid,biased economic indicators.

My local polish market hired a bunch of them and Now I have language difficulties buying a fucking salad from an Ukrainian woman. They should practice their polish some more. Otherwise I will have to buy my products somewhere else.

Compared to Poland Germany was barely touched. Like every other country. You reject those things because it's inconceiveable for you on your comfy island

Pure merchantry. We were practically part of the USSR so it gave us some leverage. It all went well until shit hit the fan gorbachev figured he's being jewed. Sadly we still can't find place under the sun hence our exceptionally poor performance post 1990 compared to the rest. Guess russia is like a bear, with the hugs and all.

While on the economy a bit of funny trivial. It was indeed game-like with barter trade.
3 tiers of products
>for the western market
>for local consumption
>for ussr "market"

In descending quality.
How many bad kompots the ruskies ate, at least according to gramma who worked at a factory...

eu donations constitute only 2,2 percent of our whole gdp(green are on the picture)

Hes saying you cant take people who are ethnically similar to you and you must be forced to accept economic migrants from 'warzones' that an eastern ukrainian could only hope to be in, which are thousands of miles away.

The bolsheviks hate Slavs, Ayrans and Anglo people.

50 years

Only because the west will turn to shit.

How is Slovakia above Czech Republic?

Not sure about that particular issue, but that chart is in general very misleading since it uses absolute and not per capita values.

We didn't get marshall bucks neither. That's not an excuse

I can tell you that I am whiter than any Italian, Spanish, south balkanese or greek faggot, even tho im considered slav (which is not completely true). So slavs are white but just a variation (like black and brown niggers or koreans and japanese)

Poles are the chosen ones, unique descendants of Sarmat ethnic group, destined to save the World. Don't compare us to Russians.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech,_Czech,_and_Rus

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Europe

An Irishman calling other parts of Europe a shithole? lol

Communism is Jewish
Capitalism is secular christian off shout

Read my post again please

:D

Poland got this combo: completely destroyed country by Germans (by far the most in Europe), no Marshall plan money, communism for 50 years with country run by Soviets. That's more than enough of an excuse.

completely gangbanged by everyone and everything and still we are the best prospering post-communist state. poles are pure masters.

Poland:
>The Germans and the communism held us back for years gibsmedat

Niggers:
>The White man held us back for years, gibsmedat

literally white niggers.

Nazis
>The joos and their trickery held us back sieg heil

Niggers
>Da white men and their trickery held us back kill whitey

literally niggers

Don't you remember what happened to #HUNXIT in 1956 and #CZEXIT in 1968?

No, they were largely still on the pre-industrial level before communism.

because we are crying now, that you should pay us sum sweet moneyz, cause murica was mean to us.
We rebuild our fucking country by ourselfs and became the one of the richest most prosperous countrys in europe.

Meanwhile poland, with the same ressources stays the literal shithole it always was.

>mfw Poland is literally just cheap cigarettes for us

yeah, next time get a better hook

>Meanwhile poland, with the same ressources stays the literal shithole it always was.
You motherfuckers destroyed our industry and bought everything that remained during the transformation period. How are we supposed to get rich when 90% of factories and businesses in General in Poland are owned by Germans and other westerners? We had no chance to create our own industry owned by Poles. After the Communism fell, you came in here with your filthy Deutche Marks and bought up everything. That is why today, Germany controlls us economically and makes sure that we remain a source of cheap labor.

I have time.
I'll bite.

>literally rebuilt by American moneyz
>but we did it ourselves, guys, totally
Typical Kraut.

Are there any countries missing from that? The numbers don't add up- there is more drain han contribution, the money has to come from somewhere.

Richest for who Hans? For your salaries that stagnated for 10 years? Your economic output looks great on paper but you don't get to participate in it. Also you don't even own your flats. Germans have always been slaves to their overlords in the bureaucracy, just like Russians

Why do you think germans own your shit?

Cheap labor

If you had just one smart, cunning buisnessman in poland, you would be able to build your own industry.
But you are meant to be aspargus farmes and strawberry pickers, its in your blood. Just deal with it.

>the money has to come from somewhere.
priting money and unlimited debt

Also USA gives free money to Germany

>Also you don't even own your flats.
It's better that way. We sold our public housing and regret it.

I somehow don't believe that. Everyone here says the min wage in poland was under £5

germans dont own fucking flats, because we build HOUSES you know? The big blocky things with more than 1 room?
Dont worry polack, you can be proud to have no refugees.

Even if a refugee and a polack are literally on the same level in germany...

>Why do you think germans own your shit?
Because they do you uneducated nigger. They own entire industries and our media.

>If you had just one smart, cunning buisnessman in poland, you would be able to build your own industry.

He litereally got killed 4 months ago. Nobody knows who did it to this day, but before he died he wanted to make us more independent energetically from west and Russia.

yes, we own your shit, because its easy for us.

you literally let us control your shit, and we live better for it, i see nothing wrong with that.
Survival of the fittest mate

Even after Brexit crash average Pole still earns around £1.5/hour

Name?

Oh I forgot that Germans own villas instead of flats. And they bought them thanks to those stagnant salaries. Hey but at least Opel exports more because it treats the Germans like Chinks

Capitalism HO!
You used EU laws to give your companies cheap loans for investment in Poland. You came here, sold your products at loss and then bought remaining polish companies when they got broke. How can we compete with your corrupted money? We don't have the same amount of money for bribes as you.

>Survival of the fittest mate
We will help Muslims travelling through Poland safely reach Germany.

I would say being a Vassal of Germany > Being a vassal of USSR, just saying.

Poland is in no place to be independent, but you can chose your masters, and you did by joining EU.

I always tell greeks around net complaining about EU slavery that they are a far more beneficent master than Ottomans ever was

when you are greece, poland, turkey etc. you gotta be happy with what you got and pray they your masters don't fuck up your country due to their miscalculations (like their support of erdoğan here up until 2012)

It's true, not even Eastern Euros would be able to disagree. It's just fact.

And the standard of living in Ireland is the same as the rest of Western Europe, what the fuck are you talking about?

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