Any good reasons for me to support Hitler rather than some other dictator like let's say Stalin?

Any good reasons for me to support Hitler rather than some other dictator like let's say Stalin?
As I see it their ideologies was quite similar in a lot of ways, Stalin just happened to be much more paranoid.
Apart from that they both strived to make their peoples economically independent, restore the borders of the former empire and fight the enemies of the people ((Jews and Kulaks))
Even both their Notorious genocides, Holocaust and Holodomar, seems to have been largely overblown by their respective enemies.

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There is literally no reason to support Hitler

At least Stalin was SUCCESSFUL as a dictator

Plus Stalin started out as a revolutionary and bank robber, escaping the Tsar's prison camps, living on the run... how cool is that?

aren't they both dead

Hitler wasn't blond-haired and blue-eyed, and had to rehearse his speeches. But he became the most infamous man in history, so you have to respect the amount of work he put in.

>Stalin's genocide
>Overblown
That's not even a meme, that's a flat out lie. And that's not even the only time he's killed a large population of people
The Nazis were even pardoned for a mass execution in the 90s (I think) when it was discovered to be the Soviet Union's doing

>As I see it their ideologies was quite similar in a lot of ways

Nothing alike.

Hitler had principle - he genuinely cared about the preservation of his people. It was purely about race and culture for him.

Whereas Stalin wasn't even a genuine communist. He was a pure opportunist. Unfathomably worse than Hitler.

>Had to rehearse his speeches
Literally everyone who gives a speech does this

Nazis are just a bunch of sore losers

Stalin was always based

Hitler started shit and got hit, simple as that

Not even replying to you leaf

Hitler loved his people and made it into an economic and military powerhouse.
Stalin oppressed and exterminated his own people and drove the Soviet Union into the ground, with the only strong point being its huge but poorly trained military.

Too late now, fascist pig

He was so successful he held Eastern Europe hostage as a shit hole till the wall fell, and had all of these policies (which were garbage) reversed and hated by his successor

Truly an amazing leader
>my only argument is me obsessing over Nazis

(A Leaf)

Fuck could have sworn I didn't

>poorly trained military.
No. The soviet army was the best army in the world in the 40s and 50s.

>cucknadian
>never seen communism in action
I'm sure you have your reasons, pal.

The Holodomor happened but nowhere near the scale commonly cited.

lol

>Hitler loved his people and made it into an economic and military powerhouse
Except in the end Hitler's dumbass leadership got Germany divided and occupied for HALF A CENTURY

>drove the Soviet Union into the ground
hahahaha, you know when Stalin took charge of the Soviet Union their farms had wooden ploughs and their army was decades behind the West? by the time Stalin died the farming was all mechanized, and also the Soviets had NUCLEAR WEAPONS

Stalin turned his country from a peasant society to an industrial and nuclear superpower.

This. People dont give credit where its due. The dude transformed a potatoefarm country into a nuclear superpower

Top kek vladamer

canada ip ban

>muh 60 gorillion
uh huh, sure buddy

So, he did something that capitalism could have done infinitely better, without the 20 million casualties and starving population. Wow.

Holodomar isn't even globally recognized as a genocide, it was a famine and famines usually struck in poorly industrialized places such as the early USSR.
Apart from that Stalin never managed to kill enough people to stop the Soviet Union from continually rising in size during his regime and most of the Gulag deaths can be defended with the same arguments Nat Socs use for the Holocaust Aka it wasn't intentional but happened because the war fucked up their supply lines.
And I don't really see how that one pardoned thing matter in the general debate, sorry.

While Stalin was an Opportunist, I don't quite see how Hitler wasn't one.
He gave the Soviets large parts of Eastern Europe when he had something to earn on that and killed one of his closest friends (I thnink they were pretty close at least)) Ernsth Röhm because he needed the support of the generals outside of SA.

>At least Stalin was SUCCESSFUL as a dictator

its not even Stalin being a better leader or anything, its just Hitler being more retarded.

Russia was on the Allies shit list just as much as Germany was when the war broke out, but they were seen as Hitlers little goon side kick. So France and the UK just tried to ship supplies to Finland to fight them off. Then Hitlers own retardedness made his potentially most powerful ally into his worst enemy, all because of his retarded youtube conspiracy theories. And it doesnt even make sense when you consider Stalin believed in the same fucking thing and also didnt like jews and purged them out of his government

how can you support Hitler when he's not living?

Like? I dont remember where Denmark industrilized in a matter of 20 years only by beating the history's most powerful army and developing nukes

> casualties and starving population.
Russia never starved under, just ukraine, out of spite

What the hell is wrong with Canadians?

You commie fuckers sure are delusional.

Hitler would have been decent if he never actually went to war and only used his military for diplomatic advantages

sorry for interrupting your echo chamber, i thought we can have different opinions on this board

>I dont remember where Denmark industrilized in a matter of 20 years only by beating the history's most powerful army and developing nukes

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No need to apologize cuckold, the Ukrainians were intentionally starved. Just because he didn't kill enough doesn't mean he didn't kill millions, don't see your point. Their supply lines weren't fucked up, their communist government was.

Because the killings Nazis committed during the war was intentional due to said war

The soviets killed people because they were incompetent and literally sacrificed a shit load of Slavs over garbage doomed-to-fail policies

If you cause genocide because your government policies are ass, then youre just an incompetent selfish prick

sure

stfu loser.

Hitler improved the economy Stalin destroyed it.

literally no one ever did that except hitler.

>communism
>economic independence

Canada, I'm agreeing with a lot of what you're saying but don't start saying naive stuff like politicians don't rehearse speech, it will really damage your credibility

>, the Ukrainians were intentionally starved
Most of the world disagrees, desu.
And I am not denying millions, I am denying tens and tens of millions of people. or that the Soviets were any worse than the Nazis.

>Then Hitlers own retardedness made his potentially most powerful ally into his worst enemy, all because of his retarded youtube conspiracy theories.

Lol.. Stalin was preparing to invade germoney when Hitler started barbarossa

I see nothing to like about Stalin.

Hitler... there is much I disapprove of, but there is much I really like about him, and frankly, really agree with about National Socialism. My views wouldn't be pure or rigid enough for theirs, but I'm something of a synthesis (as they were) of left and right, except I'm a synthesis superceding the post-war reaction to WWII. Or more specifically... there is a new fascist nationalism emerging in response to post-war progressivism and globalization... I'm the synthesis of that and the good bits from progressivism (free health care, environmentalism, not HATING other races but realizing races are incompatible at a working class level)

I'm also more aesthetically nuanced than the National Socialists... I do believe in the Germanic, but disagree that modern art was purely Jewish... a lot of it developed straight from German Romanticism. And I don't mind a little back and forth artistically... I'm a big fan of Jewish artists like Frank Stella etc. And besides Reifenstaahl, I'm not the biggest fan of Nazi art (but I love the state, propaganda, and uniform design - that was where aesthetics were inspired). Funnily though, I see a hybrid of certain fascist ideas with art ideas as the way forward - that things must radiate forward from an eternal truth, not from criticism or denial of truth.

In other words, simply, I'm a Romantic.

Stalin's rapid industrialization was hard on Russia in the short term, but the long term gains were YUUUUGE

Hitler helped Germany in the short term, but well it didn't work out so great...

>It's not Stalin's fault millions starved to death
>It's the leader's fault that communism is shit
>It's not the governments fault they are incompetent

Very poetic, I'd drink and bullshit with you at a bar

None. Capitalism is for degenerate cucks anyway.

>Lol.. Stalin was preparing to invade germoney when Hitler started barbarossa
Not really.
Hell, Stalin had large parts of his army on a leave and was shit afraid to anger Hitler by taking more means to prepare for the coming invasion.

Ever tried reading up any on Stalinist era art?
Just being curious.

It's a big difference between doing something intentionally and incompetence.
Not that people from the united states of "Let's shell our own Allies" America knows about that

>Jews sought to destroy Germany, therefore Hitler hurt Germany in the long run

Nigga if youre government is so incompetent that it had to employ shitty policies which ended up killing others, you cant stack that up against Nazis, who by the way didnt even initialize genocide in the beginning

>Kulaks sought to rather destroy their own assets than let it gain the people, therefore Stalin caused the Holodomar

The death toll of Gulag seems as far as know have slowly started to decline as the Union industrialized only to peak when the war started and everything collapsed.
This maybe sounds desperate or something, but I don't really think you can compare Soviet and German internment until a certain level of industrialization was reached by the Soviets.

About Holodomar, while it was largely a result of stupid political decisions from the Soviets It isn't that different from the famines that occurred in parts of the early industrialized west and then especially the Irish potato Famine which per capita must have been worse than Holodomar ever was.
Not saying the Famine wasn't terrible, just saying it wasn't unique for the Soviets.

>Communism is shit and people starved*

Stalin never fought in war for his nation, never worked a real job, and was never elected.

Meanwhile Hitler was a decorated Soldier, worked hard labor jobs and was as unprivileged as can be and rose from nothing, and his party was Elected.


There is literally no better story than Hitler- someone we can all look up to like no other.

Stalin spent far time in serious danger as a revolutionary than Hitler ever did as a soldier

Stalin's story also has a happy ending for his nation - unlike Hitler's story

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Hitler was a genius and noticed/said a lot of things that still apply to this day.

He might have gone too far with his conspiracy of the jews, but what happened in Wiemar Germany has slowly been happening here in the west.

pic related applies directly with cultural marxism

>Stalin was preparing to invade germoney when Hitler started barbarossa

this is neo-nazi meme history. Stalin was terrified of Hitler at first, and was so stunned at the news of Germany invading them, that he literally just went into denial mode when his admirals called him up to tell Germans were bombing their ships

No he didn't, putting your life on the line as a soldier of your nation and later as an actual national socialist revolutionary was much more self sacrificing.

lmfao that picture, nice

Stalin did fight in the communist revolution in Russia though, but as a punk criminal and as a commissar. He was drafted to fight for Russia in WW1, but then kicked out because of his fucked up arm and leg so he was never in the actual military.

And he grew up a poor peasant with an alcholic and abusive father, just like hitler. And Hitler was never elected

NatSoc and Communism are not similar. Even if you are completely ignorant of these two things, which it looks like your are, look at them at face value. Hitler loved his people wanted them to thrive and built their economy up again. Stalin was quite responsible for the deaths and subjugation of millions of his own people, and had a shit economy. Go research it yourself.

Hitler was much more chosen and elected by the people than Stalin ever was. He got his party so popular that it garnered over 2x the amount of support of the 2nd largest party.

It's literally impossible to to support Stalin, even for communists- they can support Lenin as he actually put the sweat into growing the movement just as Hitler did his own- Stalin merely inherited it and stole it and practically all Soviet people never even Heard of Stalin when he became relevant.

There's nothing scarier than the idea that some ghost in the background is suddenly the all powerful dictator, what a terrible thing communism is.

>Stalin merely inherited it and stole it
Hahahaha what? Stalin personally led bank robberies that funded the Russian Revolution, he was a badass and you are just salty that Hitler got owned

The sadder thing is they weren't even * his own people * since Stalin is not actually slavic, Georgians are not a slavic people.

It's absolutely disgusting to think this foreigner was able to get into power over an overwhelmingly slavic entity.


Capitalism and communism, putting foreigners in power since forever.

Two sides of the same coin bro. The only reason you think there's a difference is because you don't recognize Jews and Communists as German people. Well Stalin didn't recognize Capitalists and collaborators as Soviet people.

One was nation organized on racial lines.
The other was a nation organized on "class" lines. They both had the same purported goal though, the destruction of the international global elite, and they were both encouraged and eventually subverted by that exact same international elite.

The (((elite))) were just more brazen with the Soviets but in the end they were both industrial totalitarian systems in political form.

>Stalin was quite responsible for the deaths and subjugation of millions of his own people

So was Hitler.

>muh 100 billion

Plus I think the German invasion awoke a very strong nationalistic spirit in Russian people. I dont believe the grunts were fighting for the ideals of communism or anything like that, but for the survival of their people and their motherland.

Fucking lol at the stupidity on this board in general. The only reason they got nukes was because of german scientists, same with the USA

The USA took a lot longer to industrialize.

Yeah he did inherit it and steal it, are you angry I said that?
He did nothing, he was not even Russian or slavic.
Russians believed in Lenin, they didn't even know who Stalin was.

Also someone who commits bank robberies is not someone anyone idolizes, nor would let be their leader.


Get some proper role models who uphold what it means to be a man, promote hard honest work, strength, integrity and self sacrifice and racial pride.

Stalin is a foreigner of the slavic people- why would any nationalist like this jew equivalent.

>Then Hitlers own retardedness made his potentially most powerful ally into his worst enemy, all because of his retarded youtube conspiracy theories.
Lost. Just... just lost.

Lenin was happy to use the money Stalin got robbing those banks

Fascists sucks my cock

>muh 100 trillion
Robert Conquest pls

>da joos

Not an argument

That money didn't seem to do anything considering the communists couldn't even get elected anyway, do communists ever get elected?

Learn to earn your peoples ire and admiration as Hitler did.

Example

There is nothing like Adolf Hitler

>The only reason they got nukes was because of german scientists, same with the USA

Oppenheimer-jewish american
David Bohm-jewish American
Leo Szilard-jewish hungarian
Eugene Wigner-hungarian
Otto Frisch-Austrian born Brit
Rudolf Peirels-GERMAN born jewish Britbong
Feix Bloch-Swiss
Niels Bohr-Dane
Emilio Sgre-Italian
James Franck-GERMAN
Enrico Fermi-Italian
Klaus Fuchs-GERMAN
Ed Teller-Hungarian born jewish American


but "hurr durr it was all germanys doing!"

>The US industrialized in the 1800s along with every other civilized nation and did so without mass starvation and genocide

>Russia is better because they tried to play catch up and industrialized in the 1920s at the cost of millions of lives

>Learn to earn your peoples ire and admiration as Hitler did.

Hitler wasnt elected either though. And Russians fucking loved Stalin, even after his death. It was actually really controversial when Khrushchev started shit talking Stalin

He did not rob banks for "elections" it was for funding REVOLUTION you dumbass

You obviously don't know anything about Stalin, or the Russian Revolution, or being a revolutionary in the first place

Russians didn't love Stalin literally the moment he died they started De-Stalinization and even took his name off cities , just an accepted piece of trash that thankfully went away.

It was a sigh of relief for the slavic people that this goergian foreigner was finally gone.

>jews taking credit for other people's work as usual

just kill yourself jew

>Being so brainwashed you think it's a myth
youtu.be/HhFRGDyX48c
>American education

Great posts

t. canadian

Kek mfw when people actually look up to either of those perennial losers

Revolution seems to be a sprinkle coded word for * disregard what the people want and try to get into power no matter what *

We national socialists actually care about dominating other parties via elections because that's called being civilized, and we are confident we can win the people over much more than communists. As made obvious by their code word " revolution " when the only ones who actually posed a threat to capitalism has ever been national socialists.

>the moment he died they started De-Stalinization and even took his name off cities

yeah, it was really controversial like I said. Stalin was seen as the savoir of Russia. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about

erratic stromfag drivel. not an argument and doesnt make any sense

Actually, Germans had no idea they could use their developments in nuclear technology and use it to create a super massive bomb capable of so much damage.

Almost all the development of nuclear weapons was done by the USA, with some of the forefront research done by Germans, and a small amount of Soviet development, mainly on how to supersize bombs but keep them stable.

>disregard what the people want and try to get into power no matter what *
>We national socialists actually care about dominating other parties via elections because that's called being civilized, and we are confident we can win the people over much more than communists. As made obvious by their code word " revolution " when the only ones who actually posed a threat to capitalism has ever been national socialists.


Hitler tried a revolution and it failed because it had no real support. Go read about the Beer Hall Putsch

and again, Hitler WAS NOT elected.

Hahaha " controversial "
I'll just say what I said again.
De-stalinization took place when he died like everyone was waiting for it.

Everyone hated him, took his name off everything and tried to forget he existed.

And no one even forced them to they CHOSE to do it.

Do you think the same would happen to Hitler? Hell no. The capitalists and commies actually had to force a de-nazification program because of how much the German people still loved him.

Foreigners forced de-nazification, while the soviets themselves chose de-stalinization.

Additionally no Russian nationalists actually like Stalin obviously because he is not even slavic.

Many commies don't even like him in fact I'd dare say the majority don't. Lenin is a different story but we aren't talking about Lenin. Talking about STALIN lel even Lenins final words were boiled down to * Stop Stalin, a bank robbing criminal should not even be near this amount of authority *

We Canadian use a similar government type as the Germans, and this is what we consider being elected. Justin Trudeau was not elected- his party was.
But many still refer to him as * being elected *

The same is going to be said with Hitler so you can deal with that.

Support Pinochet instead.

>The capitalists and commies actually had to force a de-nazification program because of how much the German people still loved him.

this isnt true at all. There was no real push to keep fighting for nazism or anything like that after the war, nor was there any real push to keep it a legit poltical force.

And yes, Kruschev was very controversial when he criticized the cult of personality Stalin had. Please actually read up on this instead of speaking out of your ass.

>The same is going to be said with Hitler so you can deal with that.

you can make up all the bullshit excuses you want to, but Hitler wasnt elected and he led a failed revolution that had no support.

Do neo-commie sjw college students like Stalin? or does his huge body count turn them off?

cultural marxism was born out of criticizing Stalin and basically making their own fan fiction version of marxism.

Like if someone read the bible and came up with their own special snowflake interpretation, and had a schism with the catholic church to establish their own branch of the religion.

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De-nazification continues to this day. I mean are you joking when you say it didn't exist?
The national socialist party is still illegal in most of Europe and Hitlers speeches are banned.
Meanwhile communism never had to be made illegal because no one considers it a threat it's just a laugh topic and the commies can try all they want.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification


Please accept the fact de-stalinization occured when he died and he was hated.
The soviets chose this themselves.
While all national socialists are still united and always will be under Hitler- the same is not said about communists many of them I speak to say * stalin was not a real communist * * i hate stalin dont bring him up please *