Soccer doesn't require strat-

>soccer doesn't require strat-

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Literally nobody ever claimed this, other than maybe some butthurt retarded Americans

Who said that?

Me. What are you gonna do about it Paco?

Whoaaaaa SPEED huh? What genius strategy wizardry is this?

Looks like penis to vagina, desu.

E is for enganche?

hey it's me, paco, i am now stealing american tax money

>Gives players speed pills
>Calls it tactics

Talking about penetrating the final third

tactics explained: kick ball into goal

if only finland could follow this tactic and make it to the world cup for once

todays football is really primitive though. I would really like to see more plays like in handegg e.g. from freekicks/corners.
Also, if you are in the lead and do not change instantly to time wasting mode, you are retarded. If it is good in the 90+ min, it is good in the 70th too. Just pass the ball around at the back and never ever attempt attacks.

Terrible tactic unless you're facing a top quality team that's way out of your league

that football comprehension, you were the chosen ones, where did it go so wrong?
>the city of Hungary

Those are tactics retard. Tactics and Strategy are two different things

All sports have tactics, few sports ha e strategy. Football has strategy, divegrass has simple tactics that still devolves to kicking the ball around

explain me the difference between defending a lead in the 70th minute and 90th. If you want to time waste in extra time, you might as well start earlier.

football opted for speednogs

The difference is you're giving the opposition 20 minutes of free attacks vs 3-4 minutes

>tactics

WHAT ARE THOSE?

what free attacks, time wasting is literally giving as few attacks to the opposition as possible. Why shoot when you can keep possession?

That's the thing, can you keep possession?

>Send one HUEHUE , Sandnigger , and turbo nigger in attack
>Mid is controlled by Jordan Henderson
>Defense is Matip babysitting some memes
>Goalie is...wait who the fuck is Liverpool GK?

They will end 9th this season

>can you keep possession in the 90th minute
>can you keep possession in the 70th minute

what's the difference? If you want to time waste start as soon as you are in the lead.

it's very different
if you time waste in the 90th the match ends
if you time waste in the 70th the other team can take away possession and score and then you're fucked

>football has strategy
>put the fat guy to block the opposite fat guy and pray the big nigs for the other team don't block the other big nigs and throw to them

The difference is they have 3 min to take back the ball vs 20 min to take back the ball.

>"Football" has strategy
No. Your handegg has no strategy.
You mistake executing programs by the players with strategy.
The success of an attack is 1. the ability to execute more or less well the program, and 2. the ability from the defense to prevent the offense to execute the program

it does. it's just too complex for the burger neuron.

Bielsa is a meme

Bielsa is the vaporwave of football tactics. People constantly bring up how amazing he is, but you're never sure if they actually mean it or are just taking the piss.

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>Tf
>Tp

Go lose to trynidad and tomato

T. People who have never seen a chalk board for football.
Why do you faggots have such an issue with football? What is so hard to accept sports have tactics?

lol I probably know more about handegg than you. there is no *strategy* in it, period.
The game is a crossed duel between coach and defensive coach, a poker game of bluff of what move will the offense pull, run or pass?
Because the game itself is always reset to a state of zero, in a pure state of no event, and the coach has all the possibilities in his book to do what he wants, what program to choose.
A strategy involves implication more or less deep. You can't change strategy midway in a football match, nor you can in a chess match or in a war. But you can utterly change programs and the way you play (run or pass) midway of a handegg game

If you cannot see the Offensive and Defensive strategies within American football, you are literally retarded. Every single snap involves the offense and the defense lined up in a specific formation, with a specific play being called, and it is the Offensive and Defensive coordinator's job to determine the type of play that will be called, or what type of play to call to generate success, based solely on the personnel on the field and formation. It involves reading the opposing line and nd making split second changes and audibles. During a passing okay, a quart back goes through a progression of reads on the defense from the time they line up in formation to the time the ball leaves his hand for a pass. Every movement the defense makes changes where the ball will be thrown, and the quarterback has to make the quick judgements and decisions on where the best place to put the ball is.

-egy

This is literally what I just wrote. The coaches can change programs anytime, given the opportunity. Ultimately the QB can also change program. This is not strategy. This is choosing the best program to beat your opponent.

why not just simply put all your players in a box surrounding the guy with the ball. then you slowly move down the field and boot it in. checkmate soccer fags

preventing the move of opponents is forbidden by the rules as much as taking the ball in your hands

These guys are right, get off your high horses, fellow Yuros. The notion of tactics vs. strategy is an especially important one, that you don't seem to understand.

US Football is based almost solely on strategy, while actual Football (soccer) is mostly tactics. Individual players have much more creative freedom in soccer than in US football and react to what is happening based on their preferred tactic.
Set plays in US football on the other hand follow a strategy, and not a tactic. Because the play itself is shorter and more static, you don't have to adapt on the fly and change small aspects of your approach; one of the key things that make up a tactic, rather than strategy.

what's preventing them?

>US Football is based almost solely on strategy, while actual Football (soccer) is mostly tactics
it's the contrary.
A football team has mostly 1 strategy with 2 or 3 crash backup strategies. If it doesn't work you can't change it from the bottom, you're screwed, you lose.
A handegg team can choose whatever tactics they want, for each set play that starts from a perfect zero state with no outside disruptive elements

Also handegg players are pretty much similar. Very few variations within players who have the same role. Most Defensive linemen are interchangeable, you can't see the difference. Same for WR, RB, etc.
Meanwhile in football if you want to make a certain strategy (say 3-at-the-back defense with a libero, or building a team around a very offensive creative midfielder), you have to recruit and train a player from the start.
Strategy involves implication from the start, a grand plan.

>using the cuck shed formation
>2017

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Law 12
>Indirect free kick offences
>Fouls punishable by an indirect free kick are:
>When any player in the opinion of the referee:
>impedes the progress of an opponent when the ball is not within playing distance of either player

Okay dude, you can live in your own crazy delusional world if you want.

Oh I see. So you aren't allowed to strategize in soccer. It's a foul to strategize.

So when are we moving handegg to /asp/

OK so why does bielsa always flop?

unironically I think handegg belongs to Sup Forums
the sport has too much similarity with little robots who obey commands

i want to believe real ameriblobs arent as retarded as the ones who posted here.

You honestly believe this shit?

Defense is reacting, guessing and anticipating the entire game. Offense has a plan but alot of time the need to improvise because the play breaks down.

Watch Aaron Rogers play. He improvises constantly. Reacting to what he is given and working around it.

It should be on /asp/. It's not even a real sport. Fucking golf has more to it than handegg

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Nice bait

Because you have been endoctrined all your life about handegg, you can't see it with exterior, fresh and honest eyes and mind.
I read Carolina Panthers fucking playbook and offense elements execute commands ffs, just like a computer program
And yes, there are the odd times, when an unexpected situation happen, the hero QB has to think on himself and quickly do something good. But most of the times it's "execute program"

Answer this question frog.

Lille just recruited like 15 players, and Bielsa has very unorthodox strategies. It will take time to implement.

>dodging this hard
Bielsa literally fails evrytim

Your argument that football has no strategy is still extremely flawed. Who cares about the playbook. It's rare that everything in those plays fall in to place. It's just a general template so all 11 guys are on the same page. The fact that you would be so dense to say that this sport has NO strategy is astounding.

It has no strategy in the sense of "grand scheme", "grand plan", "general idea"
Because you can change "strategy" pretty much everytime the ball in put back in play
It all resorts to choosing tactics related a unique set piece

Just because you can change your strategy doesn't mean you don't have a strategy.

Part of the strategy is "do this, and if this doesn't work we should do that"

How is that not strategy?

Some teams are pass heavy. Their grand plan is to get the ball to their receivers. Everything they do is to open up the pass game.

>todays football is really primitive though
it's more comlex than ever what are you talking about

they have been brainwashed to hate football for decades, despite 90% of them not knowing a single thing about it or having seen a game they hate it without a real reason.

coaches change the positions of D linemen intentionally based on what kind of offense they're going to face that week. some guys are good at reacting to run plays, some guys are good at condensing the pocket. offensive players are almost always in the same position though. running backs tend to make poor receivers.