Is there a problem with dating and relationships today? I feel there's a very disproportionate number of single men to women because women now think they all deserve the alpha male.
Was it always like this?
At least they're put in their place in poorer countries.
You have no game. Its natural that you feel bitter.
Yes, losers always rationalized why they lose, that it must be some grand scheme and not their personal failure.
Just enjoy the ride, I hear that bitter cynical jaded broken cunts can have very deep and enjoyable conversation about grand politics and existentialism and such while I fuck your crush.
FPBP
Threads over boys
Fuck off leaf
>game
this board is for adults only, kid
>be me
>autistic virgin
>get game and find good relationships
>realize women aren't great and are mostly leftist shills.
>want to leave the dating game
If there's a relationship problem its that there's not good potential on either side and I think society damages people beyond repair. I don't like it and I think I want to be alone. What's the point? Its all very depressing.
No, you just feel that way because you can't get laid.
Dude you don't have to be an "alpha" to get girls. Just be a human being and eventually the odds are you'll find at least one that'll like you.
I've seen fat ugly fucks pull 10/10 qt's simply because they were non chalant about being fat and didn't give a fuck what the bitch thought.
Just be confident, you don't need to be chad.
Just be yourself ;)
All women have always thought this. It's not news to anyone who pays attention, and you're not special for figuring it out. Learn to live around the parasitic sex, and you'll be happier for it.
I can go hire any backpages escort right now if all I cared about was sex
OP is right in a sense.
To think of it like this, women used to have access to the village and the surrounds, but now they seem to think they've got access to the entire town and so become not only much more selective, but it seems, sluttier.
I hover around the middle on the desirability scale, can get laid if I try....but I have to try.
>Inb4 Muh bozgors!
Very attractive men are literally taking anything with boobs.
I've seen really ugly/fat chicks getting messaged from what I would call 8/10 guys or higher who just want to get their dick wet fast and practice on something.
dont worry about that, just low your standards and fuck as much as you can.
You are welcome.
>game
holy shit this is what women want? i have fucking tons. do they like nintendo games? PC? playstation? i have plenty and it's all paying off now
t b h alfa males deserve an alpha female
99% of females are not that sexy so they should just fuck whatever is local and available
I was wondering. I am man who has lost his virginity when he was 15 and has had ocassional sex ever since. However, whenever these threads popup there is always immense hate to the obvious virgin making them. I never had this urge to hate like the shills above me, but rather to help.
It's because coddling virgins their entire life got them to the boat they're in. At some point, you have to stop trying the same thing over and over when it hasn't worked for the last two decades.
I think the virgin hating is from guys who's lives are complete shit and the only thing they have going for them is the fact they fuck coked out sluts at parties and clubs while working minimum wage jobs
Meanwhile autist virgins get engineering degrees
This is true
The real redpill is being aware that possessing certain metaphysical qualities is more than anything with women. Looks help, but think about it. Men who put in all their time in sculpting themselves, being fashionable, and getting into the newest "trendy" stuff are going to pull women with least desirable traits metaphysically who will only see looks as attractive. Just settle for a 5-7/10 and stop complaining about how women aren't loyal; those females have more to them because they may be a bit deeper. Just act like a man and assume your role. There is such a thing as too much effort.
>I feel there's a very disproportionate number of single men to women because women now think they all deserve the alpha male.
how does that even make sense mathimatically? chad has 10 girlfriends?
american gender relations is fucked because you have a 50% divorce rate so literally half the country has no idea what an adult relationship is meant to be like and equates commitment with misery
I agree with you, however, sometimes these threads raise interesting points about the dating scene.
I don't think you know what metaphysical means
>dr doesnt get laid detected
How are the cheetos and 7-up today chief?
but how to get pussy if you are kind of scientists learning and working all the time. no friends,no parties,no relationships. in work i dont meet any woman.
Kinda, it's also a matter of competition.
It's why chads hate those pickup artistry books.
Suddenly, any sperg who had a real go of it had a fighting chance.
>Is there a problem with dating and relationships today?
yes.
people like to be so casual at everything
casual sex
casual dating (dating 3 guys at once or more)
people are so noncommittal and they think its the way forward. to be "chill" at everything.
but its the exact same reason why no one ever lasts together.
i could be wrong but thats how i see it.
fpbp
Most men are pathetic numales that no woman wants anyway. It's why they're all for importing brown ones who don't buy into the liberal numale bullshit.
I have a theory that a lot of the SJW feminism shit we're seeing today is a direct result of a lot of dudes incorrectly applying pickup artistry and just coming off as complete dicks instead of leaving the women better than you found them like you're supposed to.
Even if you browse Sup Forums regularly and have mild autism, you can still get girls to slut it up, stop whining
That is one high test pepe my friend.
>coddling virgins
this isn't the norm anywhere in this day and age. Everywhere men are basically told that sex defines them and that premarital sex is a rite of initiation. Porn and media remind them that being a man requires fornicating. And men using virginity as an identity to get pity is just a symptom of the same problem
Reality is any dude can fuck a prostitute if they wanted just sex, but many actually want relationships and families.
Even guys who wait for marriage are ridiculed for being backwards, or that they're just making excuses. And Male celibacy is possibly the most forbidden lifestyle in liberalized sexualized modern West.
You get it.
sadly it always takes someone from the "third world" to provide wisdom that Westerners used to see as normal 100 years ago
>american gender relations is fucked because you have a 50% divorce rate so literally half the country has no idea what an adult relationship is meant to be like and equates commitment with misery
Too true, anons.
I don't want to fug a slut I want a at 3.14 gf to potentially marry
I've resigned myself to the fact I'll just need to pick up a shy 20 yo virgin after I graduate college and start working
Someone tell me what's wrong with casual sex besides angering virgins?
In good parts of America there's an extremely low risk of STDs and pregnancy, and you can mitigate this further by using condoms (i don't)
Go out? Being a scientist doesn't mean you can't go out to bars. Workout, get some nice clothes, get a nice haircut, and be confident. All there is to it really.
Butthurt virgins need to realize that girls will mostly reject you regardless how you look, it's all about a game of averages. Chad thundercock might have a higher batting average than you, but you'd be surprised how little it matters when you actually get into the game.
Looks are kind of like talent in a field, sure it helps, but if you don't have the skill and discipline you wont succeed well. I've seen many good looking guys bomb when approaching girls.
>women now think they all deserve the alpha male.
This shit again.
What is more alpha - that I shoot the guy in the picture between the eyes then fuck over his girlfriend(S), or that he looks "handsome and unthreatening"?
Why waste time dicking sluts w/ herpes, hpv, and dad issues when you can spend time boosting GPA or looking for a girl to marry?
Answer this with resorting to ad him please
>and you can mitigate this further by using condoms (i don't)
Nice, you answer you own question.
The problem here is the perpetuation of this "friend zone" myth; The absurd notion that once a woman sees you as a friend she cannot possibly see you as anything else.
This is patently false, if you find a woman who is within your league and genuinely befriend her, you are effectively 'courting', as it was once called. She feels safe with you, you can take her on dates and you're able to communicate with her as another human being rather than some bitch you want to stick it in.
The reason so many people believe this is a dead end is that those reporting in are generally weak/ugly/fat/etc., addicted to porn and unable to process the idea of a healthy longterm relationship, and first and foremost: they're shooting far out of their league.
Find a girl who likes you enough to hang around you. Have some fun with her like she was anyone else, after a couple months, if you still like her, set up a small proposal for a relationship. Nothing too fancy, but something more than "w-want to be my g-girlfriend?"
You're not going to build a solid relationship on 3 dates and some mediocre sex
If you don't have enough personality to develop a friendship with a woman, shoot for somebody equally repulsive and you'll do fine.
>be 26
>meet 19yo
>she's hot to trot
>we hit it off, sex is great, she's not too demanding and not an idiot
>about 2 months in, find out she's had thirty partners
It's fucking depressing, but you really have to let that go....the signs were already there if I was paranoid to really look for them.
If it's *that* many at such an age all I can think is "one day I'll go to a work party and there's a good chance one or two guys there have fucked her".
I even said that to her and she said I was better than the others...but that is so entirely besides the point, there's nothing special. If I want just sex, I can see a prostitute. It doesn't feel intimate because you think "you give this feeling up for anybody".
Casual sex is pointless, I'd rather start a family and build something for the future.
thanks to online dating a social media the dating market is overflowed
grills get more attention than ever before. Just be skinny with nice tits and average face and you can whore yourself on instagram like a minor celebrity
>the game.
I can confirm this is bs. I have been sleeping with women since 15 and the whole game thing is a meme. It is a combination of looks (mostly looks) and virtue signaling, which I can only do under the severe influence of alcohol or being really horny. Otherwise I have the nagging tendency to an hero when talk to a female. Especially western females form the angelic world.
>Is there a problem with dating and relationships today?
Yes. Women are whores, moral foundations are crumbling and we're seeing more defeatist /r9k/ types of men.
This is nothing new, our current situation was birthed back in the 1960s
This is just mind blowing.
Women can literally fuck themselves insane.
>30 partners at 19
m8....
It has been proven both scientifically and with field experience that women sort men who are not dismissed out of hand into two categories: fun, irresponsible bad boys, and dependable, genderless sponsors.
grab a bitch by her throat and show her who's the man you fucking beta cuck
I know...
Actually I think it was 29, I was 30.
But it'd be higher now so whatever.
>And Male celibacy is possibly the most forbidden lifestyle in liberalized sexualized modern West
It' not forbidden, just ridiculed by some. You can die a virgin if you want, the community wont force you to marry or have sex with somebody like other cultures.
b-but i can talk to women when i am completely drunk like 5-7 beers and i dont have time for gym, because of programming and shieet. is there any chance for me or i should obtain prostitutes? serious question
Then get charged with rape.
Statistically relationships aren't worth it because the fail rate is so high. Marriage is a joke because of the risk being so much higher then the reward.
Logically it isn't worth searching for a relationship.
No they are literally milions of women out there that would date average and even underaverage men. I look bad but i can still get women to date and have sex with me. But there's 2 type of games with are 2 different games. If you want sex you play the sex game if you want relationship you play the relationship game.
So what do you really want ?
>sex
>relationship
The game is not bs, practice makes perfect. Ugly guys can get pussy they just have to be confident and dress like they're wealthy. Women like confidence, because it signals that this is a high value male who she can use to increase her social status. If you're not autistic you can get pussy, even as an ugly fuck. Women's brains work differently from ours, they don't care so much about looks they care about what the looks represent. Social status. If you can better her status by being seen with her, she will fuck you.
Finding a common interest or partaking in group hobbies is usually a good way to find pussy. Obviously being over weight, lacking in testosterone and being in a japanese cartoon club doesn't help, if this is the case you perhaps weren't meant to breed. But some girls are into some weird shit so given time you never know.
But if you are not the scum of all males all you have to find is a common interest and not be a pussy about it. Obviously this involves actually talking to people.
And if you can't find pussy, oh fucking well. Draw your attention to other issues, buy a fleshlight and avoid killing yourself.
thanks for advice bro, it is really helpful. changed my life.
Still retarded. Not to mention vapid as fuck. I prefer the 1800's in that sense.
>le game
fuck off back to return of kings you faggot
I agree that it's vapid. The "player" thing is a jewish meme designed to break down their enemy's moral virtue and fuck up society. That being said having sex once every other 2 weeks is natural and normal. We can't all date, nor do we all have the time to.
Have a You
ridiculed by almost all
My dick twitched
Right on. I could not date with the job I do now. However, one cannot deny my generation is absolute shite when it comes to commitment and loyalty. Which pisses me off to no end.
Fuck me, that's so pathetic.
I mean, by all means you can talk to your wife/girlfriend like this, you can say the rankest shit you like.
Though for strangers to give this up.
ACTUAL PROSTITUTES can get creeped out and say no at demands that fast and heavy (semi decent hookers anyway).
Sex is not a waste of time. I have time for sex, so I do it. I choose sex over playing guitar or video games or smoking weed, although I try to do all of them if possible
"Looking for a girl to marry" is a waste of time unless you're older (imo 30+ years old).
I'm enjoying my twenties improving myself and having sex because my dick is hard and I like tits
So you want to pull the "Jewish meme card," while excusing promiscuity as natural?
The acceptance and tolerance of sexual promiscuity, hookup culture & "free love," along with the demonization of commitment, the undermining of the value of virginity, and the legitimizing of female sexuality is the biggest Jewish meme of them all.
FPBP.
there's a growing number of men who do not get married because the internet is waking up a lot of men to the fact that women are sluts, divorce rates are at an all time high and the courts ALWAYS side with women in divorce proceedings and so the possibility to lose all your shit is very high, relatively speaking, to how it once was.
Better to avoid that whole hassle but do yourself a favor and don't live with your girlfriend in a state that has "common-law" laws on the books. That is basically the same as being married.
Man this thread hurts to read. So much 2nd hand embarrassment. Its glaringly obvious when 22 year olds post their opinions and advice, thinking all of real life is like dating in high school or their community college, thinking they're special because they pull slutty coeds.
Anyway, to all the autists in the struggle, no matter how aspie you are, if you have a stem degree and a job where you wear a tie, you will never have a problem finding a gf. Ever. It helps to lift too.
THIS.
Stop being a huge fucking introvert faggot and maybe they'll start to like you.
If you don't have 30 minutes a day to do a bit of running, than get the best escort possible. Just don't try to go for "the best price" offer.
>suit
Yes, a well fitting suit can add digits to your look.
Emphasis on the "well fitting".
I have a very expensive suit that was gifted to me which fits excellently and whenever I wear it people just assume you're smarter, funnier, better looking and certainly richer.
It's not a golden ticket, but it's a foot in the door.
hi baby
Where do you wear a suit? I work in a professional environment and I never even wear a tie, I just wear nice fitting shirts
Spotted the STEM autist. How ugly are the girls you shag?
Not that often, if I go out somewhere with my boss and he's in a suit, I wear one too to match (though his is much nicer than mine).
Also wore it to a dating event - every girl there asks (ie: assumes) you're loaded.
Have also worn it out occasionally and shopkeepers always assume you're there to buy and not fuck about.
Might get worn once every month or three.
Just look at the cover of every Romance novel when you walk through a book store.
Every single one.
The truth points to itself.
#notalljews
Just some marxist autists
They like rare games like Earthbound and stuff like Neo Geo and SNK. I hope you have more than just standard N64 stuff.
it really makes you think.
>calling people who actually get laid a faggot
>being this much of a beta loser
I'd be pissed off too if the last time I got laid was over 2 weeks ago
You act like people didn't regularly fuck 50 years ago. It got shitty around the 60's when the jew took it too far and formed modern liberal movements. Men naturally want to have sex, and so do women. I see nothing wrong in satisfying these desires in a very moderate manner. It's the "yo lets go find bitches" guys that are degenerate.
After you hit 25 though you need a girlfriend, but I think people should enjoy their youth a bit.
Did she ever participate in a gangbang or something? That's a huge amount of people for being so young
>buying sex
Is Sup Forums full of repulsive uggos?
Daddy issues, abusive ex, would have gone and fucked a different guy each weekend for a while I'd say.
It's sad really as she was very cute. Would be wife material if she wasn't so fucking promiscuous.
it's not that it's literally forbidden, but it's not actively encouraged and given an exclusive role like monastic communities had in the past. You realize that it used to be that it was not only encouraged but EXPECTED to be celibate to be a great intellectual
50 years ago was the 1960s, user. Of course they were fucking regularly during the cultural Marxist revolution.
Quit being a naturalistic fallacy faggot. Sex, even when done moderately, has consequences, see:
There's a very good reason that successful civilizations have regulated sexuality.
When you ignore that sexual promiscuity creates problems (higher divorce rates, infidelity rates, lower marital happiness, reduction of ones ability to pair-bond, etc.), you concede a vital foundation to the left. When you surrender on that front, you let them take the ball and run; after all, if "Sex in moderation is fine," where's the breaking point? Who defines moderation? What data can you provide to suggest moderation is fine but excess isn't?
It's the equivalent of ignoring genetic differences between the races and pinning problems ENTIRELY on culture. Once you cede genetics, and accept the premise of the left, they WILL beat you.
>Was it always like this?
I think the internet has changed things. Chad and Jamal get like 20+ GFs while 80% of the male population has to masturbate, sometimes getting fat sluts to fuck with.
Yes, waste your time and money by irrelevant and non-committal and non-productive clubbing and the casual sex it sometimes (rarely) leads to. Avoid finding a committed wife (which would mean regular, STD-free and healthy sex).
>no matter how aspie you are, if you have a stem degree and a job where you wear a tie, you will never have a problem finding a gf
Some evidence would help, desu I don't believe you. I'm currently in my mid-20s and studying, and it doesn't look good.
>It's the "yo lets go find bitches" guys that are degenerate.
If women wouldn't be stupid bitches, I wouldn't act the way I do. I need sex sometimes, you can't realistically expect me to be virgin until I'm like 30 while all the women are choking on Abdul and Jamal's dick.
I was a "no-sex-until-marriage" kid years ago. It still doesn't sound like a bad idea desu. What makes it impossible is that girls are huge sluts all around me from age 14 onwards. It's all BS, "sperm is cheap but eggs are expensive" so naturally girls should be the chaste ones and guys should look for sex whenever they get it.
Any good ideas what I should do to find a committed and loyal wife? I think a lot of young men are dealing with this problem these days so I think my personal question is relevant to the thread.
This is what fucks over so many young men. They'd rather chase after the 9/10 bombshell who's a mega slut than look for the shy 7/10 who would be the perfect wife/mother
>inb4 b-but dude... I-I would totally give my left but for the shy 7/10 wife material
Yeah? Then why the fuck are these stories always involving 10s and 9s? Because you're being led by your dick in your prime years while guys smarter than you are picking up the keepers
I went out clubbing with friends this weekend because it was one of their birthdays. Never have I seen so much degeneracy from females, they literally don't care that they are sluts and the way they act. It really depresses me and makes me lose faith in relationships and dating. We got girls to show us their tits, take their panties off, and make out with each other with such little effort. Where are all the good girls left?
Why are there more single people now than any point in western modern history? Is it all men's fault?
I think you're conceding a vital point here; I would argue that young people had a LOT more sex when the average marriage age was 20 instead of 30 it is now.
Marriage means stable and free sex whenever you and your partner want it. Being single means "clubbing", "game", annoying PUA horseshit and all the other shit... and you only sometimes get sex, which is something you often later regret because of STD and pregnancy risks.
She was certainly not a 9. I don't use a word "cute" to describe 9 and higher, I use "fucking hot" or "gorgeous".
A 7 when she does herself up, she was about as fatty as a girl can get while still being attractive.
I didn't know she was slutty until after we'd begun our fling, though as I said if I had the radar on the warning signs were there, looking back.
She also wanted to constantly go clubbing and other stupid shit when I'd rather chill out together with a small group. All that can be looked past though - the one thing nobody ever accepts is dishonesty.
This on Pol .. Mods Ban him ..ok
>a committed wife(which would mean regular, STD-free and healthy sex
You obviously have never been married if you think sex will be regular
Almost all the girls I know are single. It's a culture thing.