Why didn't Sauron not immediately just send the ring wraiths on fell beasts to the shire...

Why didn't Sauron not immediately just send the ring wraiths on fell beasts to the shire? What the fuck could thy have done at that point since there was no strong womyn yet

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The wraiths were on a stealth mission

they were trying to kinda rogue. The fell beasts would trigger too much attention, so they disguised themselves as hooded horse riders

So they would spread massive panic among hobbits making the ring much harder to find with all the refugees escaping as far as they can and alert next door Rivendell hes making a big move? Great plan familia

>Go on a stealth mission
>Travel by fighter jet

Were the fell beast done through CGI or something practical? They still look great in that pic

>They still look great in that pic
Looks totally CGI to me.

...

Those are real beasts senpai

Sauron wasn't entirely sure. the ring was there. at the start. Shire is fucking far away and he's been diminished without it for a long while.

If he goes rambo then Elrond can send Glorfindel and it tips sauron hand

Sauron didn't have enough minerals and vespene gas to produce end-game units yet.

nope

>why didn't sauron send his most powerful and conspicuous soldier deep into enemy territory on a fetch quest
idk user

Why do people say TLOR still looks good, this looks like a gamecube game.

The Shire was being watched by Aragorn, the Rangers, and Gandalf. And Sauron was trying not to telegraph his plans so soon. Sending a squadrons of mini-drakes screaming into the Shire would only cause every Hobbit alive to go into uber-hide mode, something they're really good at. Disguising the Nazgul as creepy black riders was the best option for Sauron. Sure, they're spooky as fuck and he could have sent more subtle spies/scouts, but nothing other than maybe Smegal was drawn so strongly to the Ring, and Smegal is too slippery to use as a bloodhound.

Because this is what cinema has become since then

Hella fucking epic

>by Aragorn, the Rangers, and Gandalf
Not to mention Rivendell.
On top of that, getting the ring back wasn't that big of a deal for Sauron. He wanted it back, but didn't really need it. His only minor concern would be if it was claimed by one of the handful left in middle earth that would be strong enough to claim it as their own, and even then that would have only presented a minor inconvenience as he had all the time in the world to wait for the ring to corrupt whoever had taken it, and do the job for him.
Sauron never considered the possibility that the ring would be destroyed. Not just because the ring exerted a will of its own and wouldn't let itself be destroyed, but also because the only place it could be unmade was right next door to his tower, surrounded by an army of orcs.
Meanwhile he was marshaling all of his forces scattered across eastern middle earth, and forging weapons and arms for the orcs, while harassing his enemies on the borders.
So even a perfect storm where the heir of Isildur had stepped forward, claimed the ring as his own, defeated every last enemy of mordor, and made sauron submit to defeat - sauron still wins in the end. He can't be permanently killed because the ring exists. The ring wouldn't allow itself to be unmade. The ring would eventually corrupt the bearer and their deeds into evil. The bearer would eventually become a wraith of they lived long enough, or be betrayed by the ring. And then immortal Sauron is left with the ring, in a world where all the noble bloodlines of the Edain and Numenor had been severed, and the elves that hadn't fled to the west would be either enslaved, or dead; there's no one left to oppose him, and he ends up ruling the world after all.

>. He can't be permanently killed because the ring exists.
Not true. Tolkien said if Gandalf had claimed the Ring and overthrown Sauron it would have had the same effect on him as destroying the Ring did.

thank god i didn't watch this shit

fucking hell user

>still have a corrupted maiar trying to rule the world
Sounds like the same net effect desu.

Citation needed because I'm sure you've interpreted that incorrectly

If you only watch capeshit then sure

Doesn't matter because Dagor Dagorath he comes back to life

The net effect on the world. Sauron himself would not have been happy.

In any case, Sauron does make it a big deal to get the ring back since he dispatches all 9 Nazgul at once to do it, as well as trying to get the Dwarves to give up what they know about Bilbo. His main problem is he has very little intelligence on the Hobbits and the Shire (I believe the Nazgul actually have to rely on forcing some of Saruman's spies to give them a lot of information).

Fuck OFF, if you haven't read Tolkien's letters why are you posting?

>If Gandalf proved the victor, the result would have been for Sauron the same as the destruction of the Ring; for him it would have been destroyed, taken from him for ever.

Only to get cucked. Is there a more btfo character in all of fiction

LOTR cgi actually looks amazing for 15 years ago.
the balrog to this day is better than 90% of the shit we see

Morgoth

The mouth and teeth might be partly practical. They don't have that CGI look.

Why didn't Sauronman just fill all the entrances to mt. doom with concrete?

Then how's he going to get into his forge? Dumb Frodoposter

It's an active volcano user, its constantly cracking open and shifting with every eruption.

How about at least blocking the main entrance that has apparently been open for a thousand years?

magical monsters in middle earth have a history of getting rekt by random dudes. he was right to keep them in reserve.

Friendly reminder that this dementor absolutely REKT Gandalf the Gay and then got BTFO by an inexperienced woman.

How many fucking times does this have to be fucking repeated?

Sauron never ONCE considered that anyone would destroy the Ring.

For what purpose?

>got BTFO by an inexperienced woman.
Merry's blade was literally created for the purpose of killing witch king and had spells designed to make him mortal again. Eowyn only finished the job.

For what purpose is it open?

Damn LOTR has aged badly. Looks like cardboard shit.

It's Sauron's forge.

It was like his office and library, he was doing his magic shit there, why would he block it

>Merry's blade was literally created for the purpose of killing witch king
No it's for killing wights, I'm sure the men of Arnor wished it was that fucking effective

think of it as Sauron's lab.

He's a glowing eye. At least put a locked door there until he gets his sexy body back

hackson a shit

a shiiiiitttttt

hey hackson baby

>He's a glowing eye.
Go AWAY Hackson.

>taints the song of creation
>cucks the valar and their work
>anally devestates elven scum
>conquers all of beleriand
>infuses his very soul into all matter/ creation so that everyone born has a bit of morgoth

Yeah, nah

ring and sauron are the same, one can't exist without the other

No, he had physical form.

where the fuck did Jackson get real fell beasts?

Unbelievable. Even after the citation has been provided you fucks won't stop.

nonsense

What was these assholes' problem anyway?

>So passed the sword of the Barrow-downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the Dúnedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will.

lol, you dumb fuckign shitter. YOU are wrong.lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Barrow-blades

Basically, there were noble kingdom in the North wo got conquered and eventually fell to what would become the Witch King, and the blade were smithed during the war, with the express hope of fucking him over.

Hell, when he does stab there a few lines saying that the smith would be fuckign happy that the blades he forged where used to kill their enemies

In the sense that he could never overpower gandalf to reclaim it but the ring would exist and so would sauron

They could just fly above radar

>gets BTFO and waits centuries to get his chance
>Dies to Turin the sister fucker
They don't give a shit, they're bored because they can't kill dragons anymore
No they were made to kill the wights he used to fuck up their graveyards and battle dead with, they work against the Nazgul but they can't fucking kill them

Sauron continues to "exist" with or without the Ring. Your claim that he ceases to exist when the Ring is destroyed is also false. He is reduced to an impotent spirit that can never again take shape or effect the world after the Ring is destroyed and as already provided the same fate would befall him if Gandalf overthrew him with it.

? They are messengers mostly.

Mostly they keep an eye on Morgoth then Sauron for the Valar. In the books they do arrive and fight at the black gate, fuckign up some nazgulls, then they go save Frodo and Sam.

Basically, they got shit to do.

the two form a symbiont circle, you must understand this

>He is reduced to an impotent spirit that can never again take shape or effect the world
So Sauron turned into a NEET?

Read the article, you bumbling bufoon. Why do continue looking as a fuckign mongoloid, when facts are avalaible right here and now? Are you a leftist?

it's like fifty hundred years old

I thought you were implying he would be destroyed outright. My bad

Sauron would still pose more of a threat with the ring existing imp

He was always a NEET, he learned from the best in Morgoth
>lotr wiki
>Not even Tolkien gateway
Wikifags are the worst shit in these threads

>there are kids who post on Sup Forums born aftter Fellowship was released

think about that for a moment

then go check in your other site you retarded mongrel. I'll bet you 100$ it won't change shit because it's fuckign facts, you retarded fuckign mongoloid trash

...woah...

Don't tell me your older then 20 and still browsing Sup Forums.

>appealing to some old ass white mans book to explain what a real nigga Peto Jackson put in his movie

y'all crackas hella whack summit

>They were made for fighting forces sent from Angmar
Done, seems like they weren't made for killing Nazgul at all

>go into ranger territory with flying lizards

Why didn't they ride on dragons?

Did you know that the witch king full name is

Witch King of Angmar

Ie he is from Angmar

Ie he and his force, are from angmar

ie he is a fighting force, of Angmar

ie you are a fuckign mongoloid, jesus fuckign christ

They ded

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So Sauron knew Frodo had the ring (I think) when the mouth of Sauron told Aragon that he was dead and by holding his shirt


So why did Sauron send ALL of his army to the black gate when (a) they were clearly superior and (b) they know Frodo was still alive with the ring?

The answer is no user.

It was a ruse on saurons part to piss of aragorn and to figure out in parts what they were planning. He was hoping aragorn would sperg out

>The Witch-king of Angmar sent them to the Barrow-downs, in order to prevent a resurrection of the destroyed Dúnedain kingdom of Cardolan. The spirits stirred the dead bones in the mounds and haunted them
>Due to his inspiration from Hrómundar saga Gripssonar, during the writing of The Lord of the Rings (see The History of The Lord of the Rings) Tolkien at first foresaw a link between the wights and the Ringwraiths, initially describing the Black Riders as horsed Wights, but the suggestion that they were the same kind of creatures was dropped in the published work
>In the final work there remained a link between them: the wights were now spirits sent by the Witch-king.
>In T.A. 1636 those people who remained in the Barrow-downs died from the Great Plague. Angmar then sent Barrow-wights to infest and haunt the downs. Arthedain managed to reconquer the land briefly, but few people wished to live there on account of the Barrow-wights, and Cardolan was soon lost again.[1]
But yeah sure, these blades only existed to kill one Nazgul, hell I don't even know how Cardolan managed to lose the war with such a weapon . Kill yourself

Sauron only knew he had the ring when he put it on in Mount Doom

idk what you're arguing about but you need to calm down you raging autist

THE

BLADE

KILLS

SHIT

FROM

ANGMAR

YOU FUCKING RETARD

Are you fuckign somalian? Are you a fuckign nigger? How can you be this fuckign retarded and have fuckign internet connection. OBAMA PHONE WERE A FUCKING MISTAKE

But why would Frodo be trying to sneak into Mordor? Sauron had to know that Frodo was part of the Fellowship so it's conceivable that the had the ring.

Why didn't Grandelf just zzap Sauron in his big fucking eye?

>So Sauron knew Frodo had the ring (I think)
No he fucking didn't.

Idiot, Sauron thought Pippin had the ring after he looked into the seeing eye, and knew a hobbit held the ring

>But why would Frodo be trying to sneak into Mordor?
As a spy.

> Sauron had to know that Frodo was part of the Fellowship
Sauron has no idea what the Fellowship is.

Yeah shit from Angmar, not the With King himself dumb fuck
Pippin isn't Frodo fuckhead

if he thought pippin had the ring, even more reason to think frodo was a spy

>Pippin isn't Frodo

uhhhhhhh i know idiot

>y not just ride the eagle to mt doom

What a moron

agree with all his other points though

Then how would he fucking know Frodo had the ring because he thought Pippin did? Show your working

the fell beasts aren't particularly tough in the books, they are described as quite scrawny and nothing like the gigantic dino-wyverns we got. They certainly don't pick up horse and rider and throw them like in the movies, and Legolas kills one with an extreme range shot going UPWARDS meaning the arrow would've hit with barely any force.

nah ur 2 dumb too understand

>not the With King himself
you wot