What is the correct way to debate a leftist?

What is the correct way to debate a leftist?

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This.

You don't

But if you must, don't offer anything yourself and ridicule them

On the off chance you find one who isn't a total retard, I'd say 1/100, it's likely the individual hasn't been presented the opposing argument and you can have a decent discussion

You're likely retarded anyway though OP, sucker of dicks

let them spew their bullshit.

then go out and vote.

With a gun.

Let them kill you and you win.

This. Just berate them. DO NOT try to use logic, you're pissing in the wind

I have debated 8 leftists so far and every one of them has called me a racist or something similar.

Every one of them is literally using it to shut down the conversation.

I'm seriously getting fucking mad at these people I just want to hit them at the end of it.

I am center left debate me

you don't debate or argue you just have a politically minded conversation and point out subtle things that make them question their ideology

With violence. You can't reason with them.

You gave them something, it's your own fault

Don't out forth any positions of your own, just act like a dick head and ridicule their positions

You won't change their mind, but if there's an audience you could change there's

It's why I debate people here. I know the person I reply to is a fuckwit cunt, but the lurkers might be influenced

Logic doesn't work with them because their ideology requires the lack of it. Even some on the right are this way

Google "enlightened middleman fallacy"

That's you

How deep are you trying to go

this.

I've shown them their logical fallacies. I've proved them moving the goalposts and their ad hominem attacks. They just ignore it ("Why are people saying that ad hominem arguments are bad?") You can't debate someone, who ignores facts.

You can't catch water with a colander, you can't debate with someone who resorts only to cheap rhetoric.

I'm a leftist. Debate me.
Bonus points if you don't throw insults.

My mistake

"Middle ground" fallacy

repeat "not an argument" until they present you with an argument because I can guarantee they have yet to actually present you with an argument

lel

The thing is that they aren't resorting to it, it's just all they know and they th in no its legitimate argument, or an adequate substitute.

What people have to realize about leftists is that they don't even understand the other side of the argument, and there's polls that show this

Ask questions.

Why can't you throw insults and debate at the same time. This is what separates faggots and men.

>tfw you are a fucking white male

Would that actually work though?

I seriously think ill do this.

At the very least it could deflect their "RACIST" shit right?

shirtless of course

The shameless display of male body privilege triggers them something awful.

throwing insults is just what ignoramouses do when they can't debate with facts.
I don't think i'm more important than anyone else.
I don't hate any group of people.
I care about human rights and the environment.
There is literally no reason for me to be right wing.

they don't listen to facts or common sense so just ridicule them and laugh at them, the aim of the game is to upset them so much they storm off in anger

If you can't make compromises with your beliefs you can only live in a society with extreme polarization. It's the same reason there no such thing as a perfect Catholic because everyone is a sinner.

I mean, when they present you with rhetoric and insults without actually having an argument, what are you supposed to respond to?

You aren't actually engaging in debate, you're just calling each other names and using talking points.

"If you just want to spew rhetoric then there's nothing more for us to discuss but if you have an actual, well-formed argument then let me here it"

>all those false premises
Definitely a leftist

hear*

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seriously, debate me. i wont use buzzwords if you don't either.

>change there's
theirs**
maybe you can't debate leftists properly because you can't even fucking spell, you fucking moron.

Cuck.
Did you vote remain too? Good God.

Do you think that all white males including you are racists?
If not then you are on the right.

About 100%, if a leftist is challenged with views about race or gender that aren't quite up to their cucked standard then they will accuse the person of being racist/sexist/ignorant.

The obvious thing to do would be to argue how you're not racist/sexist/ignorant but that's exactly what they want you to do in order to derail the argument. Instead, say something like "I don't care if you think I'm racist, the facts speak alone."

At this point, they're probably done since they never have any justification for their beliefs rather than "if you don't think like this you're racist and that's bad"

This is my tactic. You stay logical enough to not lose your footing and so anyone looking inward sees that the other person is insane and just hack away. Their emotions are their greatest weakness.

>there is literally no reason for me to be right wing
there isn't unless you hate freedom, hate logic and think that the government can run the economy better than private citizens mutually agreeing on contracts

no, i voted leave because the EU is a corrupt organisation and they impose juristiction when they have no right.

jesus fucking Christ Stefan put a shirt on there are kids here and I doubt they want to debate you

>compromise
The quintessential middle ground cuck buzzword

Either your beliefs are correct or they aren't.

>catholic analogy
Really terrible analogy there. As if catholics believe they can be perfect and that compromise is a thing

Good, Lord KEK likes you.
Succ

I do not. The people that do are idiotic new wave feminist dirtbags who were probably brought up by single mothers who cuddled them too much

This and not be white. I'm more serious with debates when it comes to left blacks though most of the time I just laugh and their tactics against them.

Heh, heh.

I almost had to admit my argument wasn't very good but looks like you made a typo heh better luck next time pal looks like I win again.

Heh.

On topic: don't debate leftists. Ridicule them.

Honest Man: "I don't think that's a good idea"

Liberal: "Everyone knows that's a bad idea"

See the difference?

s u c c

I'm on a phone shitposting during my wages lave lunchbreak

Here's *you're* (you)

Yeah if you use logic you are probably a leftist so you shouldn't argue

Meant for as well

Wipe that smug grin off your face, and tell him how offended you are by his remark whenever he calls you racist for having stance on obviously unrelated matter.

So call them a paedophile in return. Make them be the one who has to protect their identity from false claims

What is your opinion on muzzies and shitskin filth?
(child rape gangs, gen mutilations sowing up vaginas and such)

What is the correct way to debate a Sup Forumstard?

SUGG

lately i've been calling them hate filled bigot nazi racist sexist pedophile murderer genocidal fascists stormtrooper cowards.

a firm steel toed boot to the ass, then as many kicks in the head as it takes until they finally stop moving

The opposition isn't human to them, so showing offense won't work if you're a white male

Islam is a backwards religion. But i would rather assimilate them into western culture than just deport them or kill them.

this is a nice picture, mind if I succ it?

>typo
>I typed there's but I meant theirs
that's not a typo you inbred toothless faggot; it's a misunderstanding of the English language, something I would imagine you would be familiar with.

Ever heard of proofreading? Yet another reason why you lose in a debate to leftist using logic and reason.

It will work on spectators.

Wew, that showed them. Nicely done.

If you can't compromise with people you can't get anything done. If you are in a relationship you compromise. If you are in a negotiation you compromise. If you live in a society you compromise your values for the greater good of the society. How is this a buzz word.

Does any world leader not compromise on their beliefs and last while benefiting their country? I can maybe name one or two hyper authoritarians who have. Think of Singapore, it's basically a fucking paradise island sticking to its own beliefs under the leadership of a father and son. They have a top tier economy, education system, and they are multicultural as fuck. They still have to make compromises to the opposing party who has been gaining ground for political stability.

Trumpfags have been pretty successful by just using:
>reaction faces
>meme responses
>shill
No argument necessary

They like to debate shotgun-style. They'll throw a talking point at you, and if you refute it they'll just throw their next talking point at you while pretending like you didn't btfo their previous argument.

I like to wait until they've done this a few times, then throw a molymeme and ask why they're avoiding making a coherent argument. When they respond that they have, I start demanding rebuttals for the last 5 or 6 counterpoints they ignored. Then they usually just shut up and stop talking.

Don't know if I'm changing any minds this way, but it consistently btfo's them. It actually is even more effective if more than one person at a time is flinging shit at you and hoping it sticks

When debating anyone the first one to get mad is the loser.

>What is the correct way to debate a leftist?
Be so polite and positive and cordial that they are reduced to tears, if not in front of you, later on when they break down wailing, "He wasn't what I expected! I needed a monster! My brain is broken! The pain!!"

this
Laugh in his face,make fun of everything he says,believes and thinks.
Irony and satire to the max.

Look at leftists as you look at ultra-communist christians,
Insane dumb retards.

use logical and complete arguments

Not here it won't

So basically.
I don't think i'm more important than anyone else.
I don't hate any group of people.
I care about human rights and the environment
But
I Think Britain is stronger outside the EU
I think University campuses should be about learning critical thinking rather than to be a safe space for "triggered" feminists.
I think that Islam is a backwards religion. Any Muslim in the UK should be offered a choice to assimilate into Western Culture or leave. Give them a few years to learnt he laguage properly and learn western culture, and correct their beliefs if it clashes with the facts.

What does this make me?

> tfw every time I debate a conservacuck they literally just ignore any statistics I pull up.

What's the point?

Use facts, but even then they claim facts are racist.

I can't stop laughing at OP's fucking webm

Center left nationalist

>UK
>or any other European country
>assimilating non-whites

Top kek, dad. Quit trying to be America, you always just embarassment yourself

Psychfag here.

You need to outwit them and not necessarily gain the upper hand, but to get even. That pisses them off more.

The great thing about social media is that your interactions will be available for everyone to see.

But this is the matrix of thought SJWs have when you debate, just to keep in mind:

>inequity, not so much inequality, is actively sought if it exists (look up the definition of equity)
>ANYBODY (exluding white male conservatives) who has ANY kind of deficit, whether monetary or emotionally, must be coddled and nurtured. These people are victims of inequity.

That is the operative concept.

>if lost, such inequity MUST be made whole. Loss in inequity MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to occur.
>pic related, just think abstractly with this in mind

2 examples

>example 1: the fact people are not liking the new Ghostbusters is problematic; because it is made up only women, disrespect and loss of dignity are present by people merely not liking it, regardless of whether it's actually misogynistic or not (there does exist spergs on Sup Forums who hate women because they are n33ts)
>this inequity must be made whole and "hate" needs to be eliminated, with "hate" being disingenuously broad
>example 2: violence is noble and righteous, but most importantly, acceptable if it means it's against someone like Trump.

To defeat the SJW you must understand the SJW.

You need to lurk more.

if we slow down immigration we could.
Give it a few years and the backwards culture will be gone.

If you debate a leftist they win

is that real?

You're conflating personal beliefs with practical application dipstick

Compromise being a necessity in life has nothing to do with whether your beliefs are right or wrong, it's merely a reality of the fact that people hold different values

On the political level, for the most part, someone us wrong, maybe both parties involved. Compromise doesn't require anything but negotiating power

Personal beliefs are held by the individual who thinks they have the right answer, else they wouldn't hold x belief

Compromise is not inherently valuable either.
>I want you the cut both of your arms off
>you don't
>compromise 1 arm
This is the current problem the west is facing. As the left continues to explore the depths of depravity, the center and even right are dragged along with it.

Compromise, while sometimes valuable, is more often a cancer than not in the political realm

I am confused. If you personally believe that compromise is necessary, is that not a personal belief?

Brain dead retard

Name something you wouldn't compromise over.

no matter what they will actually, i repeat ACTUALLY (not a meme) cakll you mean, racist or both, they simply cannot justify themselves without dehumanizing their opponent. it is egotism that leads them to believe they can save the world and its the same egotism that will convince them they have won the argument.

You completely misunderstood what I said

I never said I wouldn't compromise, it's that your beliefs themselves shouldn't be a compromise

BTFO!!!!

They pride themselves on being "good people."

The concept of original sin in Christianity is foreign to them because the evil white man who they can't even identify is responsible for all of society's ills.

They are more interested in perfecting man out of guilt than they are acknowledging we're all imperfect.

Again. I believe in compromise, but I lean left on social issues while leaning right on military use and free trade. There are compromises to all of these things.
Donald trump is preaching no compromise ultimatums, which I don't like.
How can you say compromise is not a belief when so many people believe in it and so many people don't.

A far right hook.

keep pointing out how nothing they say is actually an argument.

or national socialism :)

True ;^)

Because compromise is inherently the result of beliefs, not a belief on its own

Maybe an individual could be so cucked that they believe in compromise for the sake of it, but in reality they're just retards at the mercy of the two sides compromising

>donald trump is saying no compromise
Which is not inherently wrong as I've demonstrated before with the arms analogy

>so many people believe in it
So many people believe there should be compromise, very few people (retards) don't actually hold an opinion on a particular side of the compromise.

Do you not understand what a belief even is?

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"We don't argue with the ones that disagrre with us, we destroy them"
Mussolini
I think that's the good way to debate leftists