Brexit- Redpill edition

Doing some shitty debate in class tomorrow about Brexit and the call for a 2nd referendum; seeing as the 'youth didnt get the vote'.

Can you give me some good points/facts to red pill my libcucks classmates.

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Don't roll it out immediately but if they bring up the Google searches on what is the EU, point out that was less than 1000 in total.

Straight up, point out that barely more than a quarter of those under 24 actually voted to remain.

>the 'youth didnt get the vote'
Means the youth are stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway. Drop mic. Teleport away.

The remain camp was right. You never had any argument's to begin with.

The whole "we have to live with their decisions" thing is how democracy works. When the majority of the population disagrees with your views, you dont get to say that it doesn't count.

The only argument you will hear from "youth" about the referendum is that it leaves uncertainty for the economy. But here's the thing, other nations are going to end up following the UK out of the EU, meaning that the EU is going to lose bargaining leverage and the UK will most likely be just fine.

The other argument is going to be theffective immigration side and it's going to be based on nothing but "Muh Feels" and personal opinion that they don't think it's very nice to have borders and decide who can and cannot enter the country and at what rate.

What about the argument ''muh old people aren't going to be alive boo whoo''?

youtube.com/watch?v=z5ha23XLar4

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2636618/
pinknews.co.uk/2007/04/04/american-scientist-gays-die-younger-than-smokers/

Point out that homosexuals die far younger than heterosexuals and ask if they deserve a reduced weight vote. (you'll have to swallow some bile here) Say that you believe everyone has a right to equal democratic representation, regardless of life expectancy and that you find it offensive that they're implying homosexuals are somehow 'worth' less than heterosexuals.

goddamn that's ruthless.

They'll probably be too offended to even hear the rest of it though.

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Simple way to end your argument. Ask why they want a 2nd vote? Ask why they are against democracy

That's why you flip it. Ask if they value homosexuals as individuals before springing the whole life expectancy bit on them. For double SJW points, replace homosexuals with blacks.

Make them recall the idea they agree with first, before you twist it to your own requirements.

Which countries next pol?

The old voted FOR the young precisely because they are going to die soon. They base their decisions on what they believe is best for the young people. To imply that the old people vote for themselves is incredibly disrespectful.

Do not deny 60+ years of experience.

And only 30-something percent of young people could be arsed to vote anyway, they've already made their own point moot. They deserve what they get.

If you mean "youth" as 18+ they had exactly the same voting rights as anybody else. You can see from the turnout figures that the majority of them didn't bother to use it, which was their own free choice.

See pic related and the sources for the Ashcroft poll at lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/How-the-UK-voted-Full-tables-1.pdf

As for people under 18 voting, there has to be a cutoff point somewhere. If that was going to be changed, it should have been done before the original referendum, not afterward because people don't like the result and know more young people would change it in their favour.

The youth got the vote, they chose not to exercise it, a second referendum would open the door to a never-ending cycle of referendums and counter-referendums from whichever side lost the last one.
You don't need anything else because there is literally no valid rebuttal to this. None. They can flail and shout and whine all they like, but this a rare case of there being only one side to the "debate" unless they want to start arguing against democracy as a principle.

Another point, if they bring up that the youth are more informed then ask why they didn't vote first time around. This is something to end on because it will turn the crowd against you but, if it's going badly anyway (it probably will) ask why, amongst the myriad of 'facts' the youth digested they didn't get that tiny one about how you actually have to vote to get your opinion counted.

Your referendum cost over £100m to perform (this is just the cost of polling, nothing to do with campaigns, one way or the other). Ask them why they didn't take advantage of this and are now demanding a similar amount of money be spent again when that money could be used to help feed thousands of refugees in Syria (be sure to say IN Syria, don't get tripped up by accidentally supporting the import of refugees).

If the Mediterranean crisis is brought up, use this analogy: if there is a pile of food in the middle of a minefield and starving women and children are dying in an attempt to reach it, it is nothing but irresponsible to make the pile bigger. The clear answer is to offer food to those who remain outside the minefield (i.e. helping those who do not cross the Mediterranean instead of making a deadly crossing more attractive). Demand to know why they think it's acceptable to create conditions that lead to more innocent deaths and proclaim that all the help to those at sea is nothing compared to what those same resources could accomplish if they were applied to preventing crossings in the first place.

>The old voted FOR the young precisely because they are going to die soon. They base their decisions on what they believe is best for the young people. To imply that the old people vote for themselves is incredibly disrespectful.

While the sentiment is valid, it's a bad choice for persuading edgy teenage students. They only like authority figures when they're telling them what they want to hear.

Having a second referendum is the red pill.

Even many Brexiters want another referendum, this time on whatever terms are agreed.

Many Brexiters would rather remain in the EU than leave it but still have freedom of movement etc. and be cucked even more by the EU.

>Many Brexiters would rather remain in the EU than leave it but still have freedom of movement etc. and be cucked even more by the EU.

The one drunk idiot the BBC can find to interview doesn't count compared to the millions who voted out overall.

Oh, also, the fact that Cameron explicitly stated there would be no second referendum if Remain won. "Not a neverendum", etc.

2nd referendum is next and you will stay and pay for my jolly good life, james u croocked teeth ginger piece of shit

Reminder there wouldn't be a chance in hell of the referendum happening again if the results were reversed and there certainly isn't going to be with the one now.
This almost always generates a >fuck democracy. response

No chance, Piotr. We'll give you a thrashing so bad, you'd think the Mongols were back in Wroclaw.

You could go total redpill and bash democracy. Republics are a better system, but still based on a democratic principle of the "will of the people" being done according to the rule of law. This would go way over the heads of the audience, though.

Best case scenario is painting the U.K. as a now (once again) independent and self-reliant nation doing friendly trade in an age where no other governing bodies can set limits on you. You (the U.K.) can now set the pace of everything within the realm of your country's sovereignty. For example:
-Trade and tariffs
-Laws governing consumer goods/service
-Labor markets and wages
-Eligibility for citizenship (big deal now that the EU is going full on superstate mode)
-Freedom from being restricted to set your own currency level
-Money made in the U.K. stays in the U.K. and can now be spent on its citizens instead of funneling life into a failed EU (mention Greece's bailouts).

Segue these points into the reality that the Euro was actually being propped up by the Pound. Now that markets are (rather quickly I might add) stabilizing and currencies are coming to their true value (instead of being inflated) economists will realize the trend that was an eventuality all along:
1. The pound is going to go up
2. The Euro is going to go down

Point out that Brexit will cause wages to go up for lower income workers (competition). Not to mention that natives spend money at home, not abroad (or give it to terrorist organizations).

Remind them that being in control of your own military and boarders helps to prevent subversion tactics (quote some Yuri). There are enemies that want western civilization dead.

That's just for starters, but should suffice to get you going.

course there will u fat loser
>60% white

i will laugh so hard after the second one makes you stay

Tell them that's what they do in Venezuela, repeat the referendum until the "correct" answer is given.

Ask them what they mean by "young people couldn't vote", was there anyone preventing them from voting?

I get it, you're salty, after everyone else leaves the EU you'll be left shackled to Germany along with Greece and perhaps even Turkey. There will be no valiant fight against the evil Nazis because Germany will have shackled you to herself by sheer force of political will alone and what Herr Merkel has planned will be far more destructive to your nation than anything ol' Adolf could have ever dreamt up.

Immersing yourself in salt will only make the wounds hurt more when they are sliced open.

And also, would we be having this debate if the "in had won"? Isn't school supposed to be impartial? are you a bunch of traitors?

> Bring some union jack wear if possible.

>Doing some shitty debate in class tomorrow about Brexit and the call for a 2nd referendum; seeing as the 'youth didnt get the vote'.

Oh boy that won't be a completely one sided debate at all

Keep dreaming, clogfag.

Nexit when?

Show the penis pls

#NotAllPoles

Yeah none of that is useful for persuading a bunch edgy teenagers indoctrinated since birth into socialist bullshit.

The youth did get to vote, they chose not to, which is their right.

Point at gollies an achmeds an then count you .. 3 in class of 50 ..
cos the fags coming here an breeding .. most pol kids are farmed to other places for welfare scam .. You if real (obvious not ) But 8yo .. go skool monday an say my mates say the EU Vote want the Foreigners out .. ? an we a nation of voters .. so get rid this lot an be 25 a class ok ..?

Does anyone have a link to that wikipedia page about a greek story about women in goverment?
I can't find it

>Ask them what they mean by "young people couldn't vote", was there anyone preventing them from voting?
Facebook/Twitter voting was broken that day, probably sabotaged by UKIP

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen
That'll be six gorillion shekels for services rendered.

35% turnout in 18-24 year olds

Maastricht treaty

Lisbon treaty

Lack of democracy, transparency, seeding power from national governments and moving it far away to a political elite cabal in Brussels.

Explain what the EU has done to the Mediterranean (forced austerity when people voted anti austerity governments.)

Explain that leaving the EU is not leaving Europe, and being eurosceptic is not being anti-European.

This is all you need really.

If I were in your shoes I'd pretty much focus my entire debate on democracy and the accountability of the government. We've all grown up exposed to strong anti-authoritarian and pro-democracy themes - calmly explain how the EU is evolving to become an undemocratic government with increasing powers who have no accountability to the people it represents. Refer to things like TTIP, and mention that none of us would know about it if it hadn't been illegally leaked by WikiLeaks. Tie up your argument by suggesting that the EU only serves to propagate the class inequalities that exist in our system, and that a vote to Leave was the only way to preserve democracy.

I wouldn't even mention immigration at all desu, even if it is an important factor. Once you go into that sort of territory your opponent will probably try to paint you as a racist, and even if his/her argument is shit, a liberal class will just eat it up because they'll hear what they want to hear. Don't give them that ammo, stick to the democracy issue.

Her name?

The liberal class has already made up its mind, the strength of the argument is moot.

Slavs can't be happy, google me a picture of a smiling slav that doesn't have any intoxicants in their body.

in the uk only 7% of people are unhappy with their deicision to vote leave, but in london its 26% so the media makes it look much worse than it is. 18-24 year olds in the UK are 15% unhappy about voting leave so the London % is going to be huge.

archive.is/2016.06.29-205209/http://survation.com/happens-now-post-brexit-reactions-poll/

The lefties use "Europhobe" now.

Euro propped up by the pound? kek!

>youth didn't get the vote
They did, but I heard that 40% of them didn't vote - meaning if they had, they would have won.

Lexit: The Movie

youtube.com/watch?v=pq72f81kkM4

youtu.be/USTypBKEd8Y?t=980
You will like it.

doesent matter whos right. what matters is killing those who disagree with me

must be butthurt your family is being deported. hows your brother?

what happens if leave win again?

remain and leave went into the vote knowing the conditions. nobody gets to backtrack.

if remain had gotten 52% of the vote would they have taken that as a decision to remain?

what are the views of people who likely didn't register to vote or cast a vote matter when they didn't even value the process?

the time to cry about how its 'unfair' was long before voting day.

You're forgetting about the "No Fun Allowed" contingent of old people. Those who know they're circling the drain and give no fucks just to watch the world burn.

more talking points here
blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/brexit-political-awakening-young-people/

UK is not self reliant. nor are the US or the EU. Producing enough of a raw product is not producing enough of a manufactured/refined product. E.g. cellphone or gasoline.
UK is currently abide by the EU rules negociated by its govm't and that its parliament accepted and ratified.
If they want access to the single market 60% of their exports, they have to follow the rules, all the rules. Plus they'll have to pay even more than when they were in without the right of say.
Looking at the stuff you spout:
>-Trade and tariffs
cut your export to EU...no access to single market.
>-Laws governing consumer goods/service
ibidem
>-Labor markets and wages
Wages are not regulated by the EU.
>-Eligibility for citizenship (big deal now that the EU is going full on superstate mode)
Not regulated by the EU
>-Freedom from being restricted to set your own currency level
They already decide from their currency level since they're not in the Euro-zone.
>-Money made in the U.K. stays in the U.K. and can now be spent on its citizens instead of funneling life into a failed EU (mention Greece's bailouts).
You know nothing to economics right?
Currencies Exchange rates are mainly about information. look at interest rates if you want to understand and get a bigger picture.