UK must accept freedom of movement to access EU Market

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>European Union leaders have warned that the UK must honour the principle of free movement of people if it wants to retain access to the single market after it leaves the bloc.

bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36659900

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So every country that trades with the EU has to accept free movement of people? Obviously not.

Why can't the UK trade with the EU on terms similar to how the US or Japan trades with the EU? The US doesen't have to accept free movement of people to trade with the EU.

Hopefully someone else leaves too.

This can be brought up.

They are making sure nobody else wants to leave EU. If they allowed UK to control immigration and let UK in single market, other countries would want that kind arrangement too.

>Be part of the EU for over 40 years
>Leave EU at an inappropriate time without consulting other members
>Expect to be given fair terms when it's you who needs the EU
Have fun with your 'Why?' based economy.

Japan and Eu don't have a free trade agreement. Neither do USA and Eu unless you want us to sign up to ttip

>when it's you who needs the EU

It doesn't matter. The single market is good for our financial sector, it's probably what our political establishment will pursue. We'll only have to follow regulations of things going into the EU we'll still be more free. We can renegotiate in the future and still make trade agreements outside of the EU. It'll still be ground gained.

It's great to see Brits shoot themselves in the foot and think they're sticking it to the """"globalists"""". Reminder Soros made a billion dollars shorting currency on Black Wednesday the last time this happened and he did it again this time.

>vote yourself out of the EU in the name of sovereignty
>still a member of NATO and UN and WHO and IMF etc

>vote yourself out of the EU in the name of stopping immigration
>will become part of the EEA, meaning you lose all power you currently have in the EU and get nothing in return while paying MORE
>your govt was the only one importing muzzies and now they don't have to be burdened taking in white Poles
>to get access to the internal market you have to bind yourself to free movement anyway

WE WUZ EMPIRES N SHIET WE TOOK OUR COUNTRY BACK

"You must accept the mark of the beast in order to buy and sell."

Because this isn't just trade. The single market is TARIFF-FREE TRADE. A huge deal for importers and exporters alike.

>Be EU
>Constantly don't listen to and ignore your third biggest members demands for over 40 years.
>Decide to important millions of shitskins.
>Force it on other members yet the purpose of your alliance is a trade agreement bloc.
>EU member leaves as a result.
>Cry, bitch and moan.
>Decide to fuck both your economies up out of spite.
>Build a FUCKING ARMY as a "trading" bloc.

God save the queen and may the devil pour hot coals down Merkel's throat.

Is this tyranny?

>american education

Its about the EU free trade zone.

UK is trying to be switzerland but they forgot their already is a switzerland.

>Is this tyranny?

No, this is patrick.

>This is what the UK tabloids have actually made bongs believe for the last 20 years

Tariff-free trade withen their bloc.

You still have to pay extra for the consequences of having a protectionism type economy within your EU bloc. The money saves from membership payment etc. will cover the cost of a years tariffs and then some.

Unless Merkel goes full Nazi ( like she hasn't already) and says NO TRADE REEEEEEEEEE!

In that case the EU market will tank along with Britain and make the already uncomfortable people more uncomfortable to the point they leave or have a civil war.

All possible outcomes are for the better.

This fucking bitch needs to be stopped.

Of course the Yank knows fuck all about the EU and how it's meant to work.

The UK used to have a pretty awesome sweetheart deal with the EU that meant it paid in fuck all and reaped huge benefits in terms of free market access to European economies. They have pissed that deal away now and won't even get the same shit that Norway or Switzerland have i.e. you pay in, follow our rules and don't get a say in how this shit works.

The real fun and games is if you think this is because of non-EU immigration, as you seem to. The EU does not regulate non-EU immigration, as you seem to think.

lolno k thx bye

To bad I am not a fucking bong you stupid mongoloid.

But that's obviously where you get your "information" from on these matters as you're monolingual and posting on Sup Forums

>The Eu does not regulate non-EU immigration, as you seem to think.

Oh boy does this potato nigger actually believe this? Or is it they classify them as refugees? :^)

>Leave EU at an inappropriate time without consulting other members

EU knew this was a possibility since Conservatives won the General Election over a year ago.

They also negotiated with Cameron with that crappy deal to stay in EU.

Not an argument

Merkel is not going to go NO TRADE REEEEEEEEE or anything like that. Hell, it isn't just Merkel pulling the strings. What will happen is that the UK will get a worse version of the deal that Norway and Switzerland have, while their largest contributor to GDP, the finance sector, relocates to Paris, Dublin, Luxembourg and Frankfurt (maybe Edinburgh too if the Scots manage to get the fuck away from the UK). The EU market will struggle for a little while as market confidence in the European project falters, but it will be nowhere near as bad as what would happen to the UK.

The UK contributed a net sum of £8.5 billion to the EU. Whatever tariffs they would end up paying to trade with the EU will be far greater than that sum.

>Merkel and Brussels have outright already refused an EEA+ agreement that gives UK migration control, passporting and single market access.

>What is passporting? All banks registered in UK have a "passport" that allows them to do business with whole EU. The City depends on it.

>Base case is Berlin and Brussels plan to insist on an EEA- (i.e. a worse deal than Norway) that excludes passporting, migration controls.

>This would however allow services to continue to have access to the singoe market. But not financial services. Mass migration continues.

>This is formal offer. But Paris is planning a turn of cynical brilliance - that could at a stroke smite London and restore Paris to glory.

>France cynicallly intends to offer Britain an EEA- that excludes passporting, but givs them a migration cap, and single market access.

>This is a brilliant move: "you get less Poles, but we want your banks." It would be in France's interests to encourage UK out to get banks.

>But the cynical French deal would be exactly the kind of cap migration, free movement for us and single market deal that the public want.

>The next Tory muchkin leader would then be a hideous position: have his tax base slasshed at by loss of banks as his voters rejoice.

>Paris and Frankfurt would emerge as enormous winners by ending passporting. Hugely boosting popularity of French and German leadership.

>British public will be left moronically clapping the huge triumph of a few less Poles and the punishment for "bankers" and tax base slashed.

>City analysts I met look with unbrindled distain on a Tory leadership class they think are simply muppets. No clue what's about to hit them.

>Conclusion: No matter the outcome UK financial sector is FUCKED and bye bye to banks. London collapses. Banks abandon England. Meanwhile the British people are cheering this on as a win.

Given that the finance and insurance sectors make up over half of Britain's net GDP, I don't think the word "fucked" is enough to describe just how thoroughly the UK leaving the EU would destroy its economy.

Better to live free, then die a slave.

RIP Brittania

and blah blah blah

I know federalization when I see it, and we all know where it ends up. Might happen slow or fast, most likely with war but a USE is coming.

It's a good thing 11 countries have already lined up with an interest of negotiating FTAs with Britain in the first week. The combined value of such agreements are already several times that of the EU.

heatst.com/uk/11-countries-gearing-up-to-strike-trade-deals-with-britain/

Europe can play hardball with their biggest external trading partner if it pleases. They'll immolate their own self contained bloc while Britain has plenty of options outside. It'll be messy, but Britain will be the one coming out ahead while the eurozone burns down.

Refugees, such as those coming from Syria at the moment, are subject to domestic government policy and not EU mandate.

Suits ye well enough, doesn't it?

You are dumb.

This is all under the assumption that Britain doesn't communicate with the rest of the planet.

EUs economy won't last another 10 years anyhow. The lazy natives and the endless wave of shitskins on welfare is going to crush the communist economy.

They're trying to call our bluff, London needs to be part of the common market but Germany needs access to the UK just as much (as well as many other EU countries). So who will swerve first? Bear in mind though that they are not having any type of negotiation until article 50 is put into motion, as we all know, what the EU say and what they do is often very different and they're good at sneaking in backdoor deals. This could be them extending an olive branch so both can save face, ie. make the deal look harsh so Junker etc. can go back happy and consolidate EU but really it's pretty much free trade to keep Britain and Germany happy. Either way, leadership election is in about 10 weeks, I suspect opinions will change.

b-but muh freedumb (even though we will have less freedom now)

>does not regulate non-EU immigration

And yet, the EU is trying to force refugees on all its member states, so clearly it wants that power.

free movement =/= right to reside

>is going to have his country dissolved into an authoritarian superstate
>l-lol bongs less freedom..
Lol

>your govt was the only one importing muzzies and now they don't have to be burdened taking in white Poles
this, unless the bongs actually wanted to get rid of poles (and gypsies), there was no need to stop EU free movement, as most muzzies and poos don't bother crossing the channel, and just go straight to the UK

What policy? No one vets these "Syrian" migrants.

Europe is a wide open fucking gate that's only gaping further and further like a thai whores anus.

The only ones trying to stop it are the ex soviet states and they just push them along to Germany.

And what does Germany do?

YOU TAKE THESE NOW OR WE WILL IMPOSE PRICE TAG U CIS SCUM!!

Why because even Merkel knows she fucked up so hard and she can't pay for all of them. So she throws her weight around in the EU to get what she wants.

Europe needed to slam the door shut 10 years ago but now its over. At least eh UK is island. They might have a chance.

>A bloated, all consuming government, that relies on war to sustain itself, while at the same time devouring the liberty of its people, where special interests are the actual electorate.

No, it doesn't suit me. If the year was 1890, I would be far freer than now.

>if you want to start trading with us you gotta still let us walk all over you!
can't the UK still trade with non EU countries? Norway is close, and of course America always got your back

Whatever you say Alex.

Whats been the UK's reaction to this?

The EU doesn't even try to hide that its trying to replace you

There are already calls from the US to put Britain as a priority for a FTA. Free access to the US market alone is worth more than the entire EU bloc.

> Following last week’s referendum vote in the United Kingdom to leave the European Union, Speaker Ryan has said that the special relationship between our two nations will endure. To demonstrate that commitment, the speaker is calling on the United States, in parallel with its negotiations with Europe, to pursue a free trade agreement with the UK, once it has formally separated from the EU.

speaker.gov/general/speaker-ryan-calls-free-trade-agreement-uk-after-brexit

EU's pretty neoliberal though. And again, you're ignoring the question of what Britain actually has to trade. Where are the British cars, the British electronics, the British anything? During the last 40 years, successive British governments have let domestic manufacturing and agriculture wither on the vine, while turbocharging the finance sector, all under the assumption that EU membership would remain.

Gotta replace around 200 or so deals in two years while pulling yourself out of the EU. Oh, and Scotland is pulling itself out of the UK too. If they aren't renegotiated, ye fall back on the spectacularly shit IMF ones.

Exactly. I cannot believe Cameron was dumb enough to even let the referendum happen.

Lol if you think that.

The EU is never going to stop until Europe is a super state m8.

>restore Paris to glory.

Ahahahahahaha

Yeah, I'm sure Europe's Chicago is going to be glorious soon.

Trump will embarrass the shit out of Merkel and make the UK a shining beacon of an economy.

You just know he wants to spit in her face and call her a fat slob.

Really need to get the MAGA Man into office.

They are going to punish the UK (probably severly) for this. It is what neoliberals do.

>implying that's a bad thing

Why are people afraid of becoming the most powerful nation on Earth? Are they really that cvcked? Or are our enemies that afraid?

Only Farage is going full retard about OH YOU'LL GIVE US WHAT WE WANT AND MORE. SNP is going for independence, Boris has disappeared, Gove is going "oh brexit won't actually happen" and Labour is tearing itself apart.

This is damage control, negotiations don't start for at least 10 weeks. They're telling now one else to step out of line, we'll see how the German unions and French agricultural unions take this news when they realise 1/5 of their trade has gone. Meanwhile cheap New Zealand food looks awfully tempting now we're on the outside.

Regulations have choked out a lot of manufacturing potential in the EU.

The best part is most if not all of that will be scraped and people you know. Actually start business again without endlessly navigating absurd amounts of red tape without even knowing if they are doing something wrong or right.

Well if you look at the United States today and like what you see. Heh, enjoy it.

Also do realize that apart of your USE is the replacement of native white people, as you don't breed enough to deal with debt/inflation.

Paul Ryan can't keep his gang of retards in order. Lord only knows what bullshit is going to happen there.

Hahah this cvck is at it again Europe is 97% white what's USA again? 65%?

>Why can't the UK trade with the EU on terms similar to how the US or Japan trades with the EU?

Lol but this is exactly what's going to happen. When a US bank wants access to the EU market, it needs massive offices within the EU that's why there's lots of international banks with their European HQs in London. Now we're out, if our financial companies want to trade with the EU, they need to set up office somewhere inside the block. They can't carry on doing it from London unless we accept their rules which include freedom of movement.

>when brexshitters and right wing retards realise the world doesn't turn around their nationalist tantrums

>live free
You have a functioning monarchy, what the fuck are you talking about? Your own domestic government censors and restricts the shit out of you far worse than the EU, hell the EU passes more laws that help you. You do realize the "Keep calm and carry on" meme was meant to be unironically legitimate propaganda from the UK right? You live in a police state, surrounded by CCTV cameras, paying 1/3 of your wages in tax, and what really pissed you off was what? That your ELECTED representatives in europe werent passing things you like personally?

This

All the pro EU shills have their ears plugged and their eyes gouged out on the concept that their is an outside market beyond the EU.

>B-b-but muh Europe!

No, what has done it is globalisation. Why pay the high wages a European worker would demand for 40 hours a week when you can go to China and pay fuck all for 80 hours a week?

Piss off you shill. Gove hasn't said that. Boris has still been in the forefront talking. Sturgeon got ignored by most of the EU with them saying they wouldn't back an independent Scotland joining.

Trade between the EU and the UK is mutually beneficial. If the EU doesn't give the UK a favorable trade deal, they can still trade with the US, China and other rich countries.

British exports centre on pharmaceuticals, engine parts and precious metals. But the fact manufacturing has withered so much also means there's potential for growth in the medium-term.

I mean don't get me wrong, this is going to be extremely painful, possibly a recession and stagnation on a Japanese scale but overall rebalancing the economy to something that exists outside London's banking sector will in the long rune benefit the country. Chances are though London will get its free trade, I just hope the cunts don't sell us all up the river for it.

Aren't tariffs super low these days? We'd be better off paying them and staying out of the single market altogether. This should have been the plan since the beginning.

doesn't uk heavily rely on importing eu goods?

Yeah why would Britain want to trade with one of the largest political alliances in the world thats a stones throw away when they can trade with other countries scattered across the world?

Youresosmrtman j ustw ow

They already do business with the US, with China, with whoever else you can think of. It's just that they won't be likely to get as good a deal as one nation of 50ish million as you do as part of a market with nearly 400 million.

>elected representatives in Europe
They didn't have those though. That was one of the reasons they wanted brexit: citizens didn't vote for EU leadership.

Farage has said that trade is mutually beneficial and that the EU should stop acting like children throwing a tantrum over them leaving.

>most powerful nation on earth.
please.

>brexshitters still don't understand its not about tariffs on manufacturer goods but on access to financial services and insurance markets, which are not regulated by WTO

God you people are fucking stupid. No wonder you fell for le farage meme

We were 90% white in 1950. That's including our leftover africans.

In 1965 the jew emanuel celler fucked our immigration policy and eliminated our demographics preserving quota system.

You see the results today.

Where will Europe be in 50 years??

but EU constantly fails at making trade deals with others because they are so big. EU is a failed governing body, just watch as UK will now make trade deals with countries all the EU member states can only dream about

Thankfully the chinese arn't going to fish British waters and make their steel.

Yes worker wages might end up lower in some areas but there we at least be jobs and production now which is the bread and butter of any economy.

Can't just shuffle paper around forever. The rich love to do that but the working class see little to nothing from this.

Yes, they did. Any EU citizen, not even a rep, can propose legislature, and their MPs can debate/pass/reject/amend it. At the very worst, they have veto strength.

How is the EU the one throwing a tantrum? UK wanted out, but wants to trade like it's still in. That's not how it works.

fuck your market nigger

Well, you should know that only refugees that are political/religous persecuted or are from a conflicted area (They can't just immigrate because they are from a country that's at (zivil)war. They have to be from the region of conflict.) are allowed to stay here (and the reason for this is that we signed Genfer convention) the rest is sent home, even if they are from Syria

I'm sure they want to emu lover.

But we live in a much smaller world now. It's not a hard and dangerous journey to trade with poo in the loos.

>but EU constantly fails at making trade deals with others because they are so big
Not only is that not true, it doesn't even make any sense.

Isn't one of the reasons EU doesn't make those trade deals is because they have to be tailored by all the nations? Surely a trade deal done bilaterally between UK and US could be more beneficial than a theoretical US-EU trade deal that may or may not happen?

They'll just have to suck it up and make friends with USA, Australia, and the other bros.

Farage's political career is based on talking shit about the EU, of course he'd say that.

With India, which is a fucking nightmare world of bribery, bureaucracy and backhanders.

Given that only 37% of the UK electorate actually voted for conservatives, they didn't really get what they wanted though.

Who's going to buy more expensive British fish and British steel, apart from the domestic market, if they can buy cheaper Spanish fish and German steel?

>Shitting on right wingers for wanting sovereignity and small government while making large scale economic arguments
Lol you lefties sure are deluded, keep pretending mass immigration is good for the working class and the situation that best helps multinationals thrive is best for the country as a whole.
There is more at stake here than the countries fucking GDP value.

> Good deal

Like TTIP? You leave unaccountable people in charge of making deals, and you end up getting fucked in the ass by the star spangled cock of corporate America.

Hey Ruskie, maybe you missed the memo but when we joined the European Community it was a trading organisation, over the decades they've slowly taken away sovereign powers from members without any oversight, we want things back the way they were but the EU is saying we don't get trade without being slaves too.

Proof pls

Who said they couldn't trade with the EU? Right now, the EU officials are acting like children.
>BETTER GIVE THE FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY UNFAVORABLE TRADE DEALS EVEN THROUGH A GOOD PART OF OUR IMPORTS GO THERE

is he going to be ok?

That trade deal is called TTIP. The EU is too big to be forced into TTIP by the US, the UK on its own, on the other hand, isn't.

Because it's coming together under the wrong auspices, going in the wrong direction, lead by the wrong leadership and it's not grassroots, it's politician driven (should say 'forced').

I would have no problem if the European nations came together via several referendums to form a common market, and then a common defense plan a la NATO and then take it from there ONLY going so far as the people want it to go. It'd naturally evolve into a super state.

What we have now is the bait and switch with the free market, with politicians basically selling out their country for rosy GDP numbers while ceding sovereignty through the backdoor, + the EU parliament is just completely fucked and has no sense of what the people want. It's dishonest and honestly borderline imperialist.

This asshole perfectly represents the type of person who's running the EU while at the same time exemplifying the exact type of person who should never, ever be allowed to have political power/influence of any sort:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutherland

the only trade deals they solidified is within the union. they don't have a trade deal with countries like usa, china, japan, canada, australia, brazil, russia,....
except for TTIP which isn't even voted on, let alone in effect, they literally have nothing

Then what was the whole brussles meme about?

>Are you from the region of conflict.
>Yes, allah ackbar.
>Do you have any proof of this?
>No, allah ackbar.
>WELCOME ABOARD! HERE IS YOUR 5000 MONTHLY EURO CHECK AND YOUR WHITE WOMEN!
>I only get one? Allah ackbar?
>Yes
>ALLAH ACKBAR *BOOM*

They're throwing a tantrum because the UK has always been the black sheep, so our leaving doesn't have to mean the end of the EU and therefore we shouldn't be arbitrarily punished. They could have gotten other concessions but they know the free movement is the one thing we won't accept so its becoming a game of ideological chicken. Secondly, the trade is mutually beneficial to both sides, if he wants to pursue scorched earth he's only fucking over both parties for a failed political goal, you know rather than maybe question if the EU is working as intended. If he does this he's only storing up problems later down the line, when Germany looses 20% of its car manufacturing occupations he'll see what a real riot looks like. Basically they're not being pragmatic and are going to sacrifice us all for their wet dream of a European empire.

You can't enjoy the benefits of membership without being a member. You were told this in no uncertain terms prior to the referendum. Don't act surprised now that you can't have your cake and eat it too.