>The first person to die in a U.S. crash involving a car in self-driving mode was the tech-savvy 40-year-old owner of a Tesla Model S who nicknamed his car "Tessy" and praised its sophisticated "Autopilot" system.
>Joshua D. Brown, of Canton, Ohio, died in the May 7 crash in Williston, Florida, when his car's cameras failed to distinguish the white side of a turning tractor-trailer rig from a brightly lit sky and didn't automatically activate its brakes, according to government records and a Tesla statement issued Thursday.
>Frank Baressi, 62, the driver of the tractor-trailer and owner of Okemah Express LLC, said the Tesla driver was "watching Harry Potter on the TV screen" and driving so quickly that "he went so fast through my trailer I didn't see him."
>"It was still playing when he died and snapped a telephone pole a quarter mile down the road," Baressi said in an in an interview from his home in Palm Harbor, Florida. He acknowledged he couldn't see the movie, only heard it.
"I guess that's one Harry Potter trailer he'll never forget", said Baressi as he chuckled to himself. "Fucking faggot"
Ian Hernandez
>tech savvy This just means hipster who owned an iPhone. No sane person who knows anything about technology would offer to beta test a fucking car that drives itself
Adam Jones
>>speeding down the highway while watching a movie I can't even imagine how far up his own ass he was to be doing that. You know he was one of those fags who's all smug about being an early adopter of tech.
Anthony Reed
I would rather hope he died watching the third one, as that is the best.
Robert Reyes
>truck driver pulls out infront of car >king obongo bans assault electric cars Laughingoiljews.jpg
Daniel Adams
/o/ here.
>Trusting a completely self driving car >Ever
Self driving cars are literally the same thing as flying cars - a fairy tale. If you want a car to drive itself while you do nothing just order a cab ride. Driving is a task with far too many human variables that it will be decades before a foolproof self drive system is made (even then it's still a big IF). Not to mention what the hell does one do when the computer sensors break down?
>Oh no my car won't drive itself anymore I guess I'm stuck. At least I was able to catch up on my latest Netflix shows rather than learn the simple task of operating a motor vehicle.
Fuck self driving cars and fuck Tesla.
Leo Torres
This is not Darwin in effect. That man was 62. If he was going to have children he would have had them long ago, meaning his genes are likely already passed down a new generation.
Leo Robinson
"Abra Cadaver"
Ayden Howard
He was 40, the truck driver was 62
Chase Harris
He was only 40.
The driver of the truck he crashed into is 62.
James Ramirez
>Not to mention what the hell does one do when the computer sensors break down?
Die apparentlly
Owen Murphy
I imagine for good self driving you would need some kind of external control, like every legal road vehicle being controlled by some computer conducting all traffic. These auto drive systems based purely on reaction like the Tesla thing doesn't seem like it would be any better than a human.
David Roberts
This is why Google is still extensively testing their system
Julian Adams
He could have just listened to the audiobook instead and not died. It's better anyway.
Blake Moore
>this >solarshitty merger >ridiculous corporate turnover >huge insider selling >gigafag-tory is fraction of the size it was supposed to be b/c tesla has to use capital raise proceeds for SG&A >cash burn stronger than ever >model 3 going to be late and at least $50,000 >model X unmitigated disaster Its been a good year to be short TSLA.
Logan Jones
you just posted this thread on Sup Forums
Xavier Adams
Too dangerous. A 1000 ton metal body that can be remotely controlled? You are just begging for someone to gain access to it and send everything to hell.
Blake Martinez
also folks, remember that Tesla doesn't know shit about self-driving cars, they license that tech from 3rd party vendor, I think Mobileye.
Benjamin Adams
You could say the same about regular cars, except in that case you have millions of possible crazed killers instead of pulling from a few dozen government officials.
Parker Young
>e. Driving is a task with far too many human variables that it will be decades before a foolproof self drive system is made It doesn't need to be foolproof to be better than humans.
Lincoln Lopez
the solution to self-driving cars is external control, like some user mentioned
the problem is that even with external control- accidents will happen
imagine the carnage when instead of one self-driving car- the computer fucks up and accidentally a whole bridge full of automated cars and everyone fucking knows that they are going to die but they can't do anything to stop it
fuck it
im walking
Jack Campbell
lol, Tesla fags deserve it desu
Leo Nguyen
> 1000 tons? Are you retarded?
More like 6 million tons
Isaac Sullivan
centralized system fail in every place you can imagine. This universe do not support this for long.
Oliver Jackson
Any system that is remotely controlled from a far off base of control is susceptible to having it's signal intercepted especially since for such a system to work, you would be required to bounce signals off relays. So it isn't just a few dozen government officials. Do you even know how remote operations Work?
Jason Wright
Still less than the total of all conventional drivers anyway.
Zachary Baker
>allowing autopilot go that fucking fast
Nathaniel Rogers
Oy vey
Isaac Morgan
This would have never happened if ALL CARS were self-driving. Don't worry, President Hillary will give a free 2-seat Chinese robocar to all qualifying citizens. BTFO Trump racists
Aiden Turner
>Trusting computers in cars to make critical braking and acceleration choices for you:
>allowing autopilot go that fucking fast This. If it was a short trip to the store and back I'd probably just chill out and let the auto pilot handle it. But driving on the highway or speeding? I'd rather have some control over the situation.
Ayden Parker
>Not to mention what the hell does one do when the computer sensors break down? What does a normal car do when the human driver's sensors break down? Or the human driver has a stroke or a heart attack? Or the human driver stops paying attention?
Not going to take the words of actual Luddites who still praise stick shift seriously though.
Cameron Myers
Make sure you aren't wearing white clothes, Elon Musk's prisonmobiles might mistake you for a fluffy snow flake.
Ian Hernandez
Not the computer's fault to be honest. They forgot to turn on the brake/detection software before smugly standing in front of it.
Isaiah Sanchez
Sup Forums here Sadly, this man's death will serve as beta testing for future development. Your metal heaps that encase you and your bad driving, that cause millions of deaths every year, will soon be irrelevant. Programmers will get better and drivers will be phased out. Everyone covers this story, but no one talks about the drunk drivers and Fast and Furious wannabe racers that take so many more lives. The codes we write will get rid of your "hobby".
Owen Sanders
External control is literally the worse thing you can do because communications can be interrupted or hacked into. You want a locked down self-contained system with enough redundancy in it's systems and sensors that it can safely detect failures, remove itself from the road, and shut down.
The problem here was that the sensors couldn't/didn't detect the object that was blocking the road. A remote system using the same sensors still wouldn't have detected it.
Luke Myers
Self-driving cars will be safe when all cars and most roads have government-mandated position and orientation identifiers in them. A self-driving car going off digitized models of the traffic conditions is a trivial thing to accomplish. A self-driving car using entirely visual information will always have wrinkles to be ironed out. That's why CAPTCHA's are visual images: humans are just better at interpreting visual data than even the most sophisticated algorithm.
Jeremiah Cox
>But driving on the highway or speeding? I'd rather have some control over the situation. Driving on the highway is the ideal situation for autopilot actually. It's mostly driving in a straight line with no cross traffic, basically the same reasons as cruise control.
Joseph Adams
ITT:
>Sup Forums shits on auto-pilot cars for its FIRST death while they ignore the 115 people that die in car accidents in Brazil everyday
I'd rather pick an auto-pilot than an actual person, tbqfhwyfam.
Isaiah Rodriguez
>115 dead berzillions
nothing of value, etc
Jeremiah King
>Implying ANYONE cares about third world shitstains
lmao
Connor Richardson
Isn't Brazil one of the countries where people drive on roads barely wide enough for 1 vehicle on mountain sides? Yea you won't be getting autopilot
Brody Wilson
No. Brazil doesn't even have roads.
John Williams
F A T A L I T Y
Gabriel Davis
yeah but % wise that self driving car seems way more dangerous
Tesla """""""autopilot"""""""" can't detect red lights, needs road markings to be impeccable meaning it can't drive on most residential/secondary roads or on roads in need of some maintenance, had a patchy GPS system and requires you to keep your hand on the wheel at all times.
So.. what's the fucking point?
Gavin Morales
>Brazil
Jace Gray
nearly spit my drink out, thanks for the kek user
Dylan Sanchez
It's intended almost exclusively for long stretches of highway use. That guy is a fucking moron, you're absolutely not supposed to use it in town.
Blake Bell
Better than humans is not good enough.
Think for one second about the motor skills of the average driver.
Asher Turner
>can't detect red lights, road markings, bad roads, roads in need of maintenance, etc >implying the average anglo can
Anglos speed too God damn much for no reason. Why are they always in a hurry to prep the bull?
Samuel Bennett
Reminds me of the Dead-Hand system Russia most likely still has in operation. Wish us all luck.
Nathaniel Barnes
Under appreciated kangaroo post
Liam James
Yes yes well done Elon, well done Elon. However
Elijah Perez
>"The car can detect red lights, but can't stop at them yet. I'm expecting that in a future update."
They released that shit to the public? Are they fucking insane?
Sebastian Martin
His smugness is apparent even from that innocent quote
Maybe he was watching the scene in The Chamber of Secrets where Ron drives the flying Ford Anglia
Nathan Hall
It's not a self-driving car, it's more like super-cruise control. But idiots think because it has a fancy name like "autopilot" that means the car will drive itself all the time.
Nathan Edwards
Ya, but how many fucking people use auto pilot? Which is worse 1/5 auto pilot users? or 6million out of 10 trillion car users.?
Juan Mitchell
>american >complaining about people not stopping at red light
This thread is ridiculously cringeworthy.
Perhaps I am just brazilian and all I know for traffic are monkeys riding cars.
But the level of hypocrisy in this thread is out of the charts.
Why is Sup Forums so threatened by auto-pilots?
Josiah Diaz
I'm not sure I'd trust it even on an empty straight road.
I guess they're so keen on getting that technology out there for some reason, they released it with some major shortfalls.
Isaiah Stewart
There are a lot of variables that people don't take into account, people who think that computers can do everything. Unless you develope a highly intelligent AI system to account for all sorts of shit that one might not even consider.
Take driving a massive rig for example. Normally you would think it is easy for a computer to take into account the weight of the load and even weather conditions in order to stop safely. But what about when you get into city conditions, when driving a truck you need to look several lights ahead and anticipate traffic conditions because you can't just slam on the breaks. You need to be aware of the conditions of your tires. You need to be super aware of the other cars on the road, because they aren't going to be aware of you. You need to be aware coming out of tunnels because sometimes the sudden wind can swerve your trailer. You have to watch out for deer running across the road. You have to be worried about bridge heights.
Lincoln Ramirez
>recording yourself intentionally breaking the speed limits
Jackson Hill
>Not to mention what the hell does one do when the computer sensors break down? according to OP's article, you die. sounds great huh?
Blake Rogers
That's what I mean, how many people will misinterpret that. I mean, how does this guy know that it can see red lights but can't stop? I assume he didn't just test it, and must have read it in some Tesla literature, how many people are going to get to the line "can see red lights" and assume it will drive itself? Again, they must be begging to legal troubles.
Austin Perry
t. Asshurt petrofag
Tesla is the only American car maker that deserves to exist at this point faggatron
Ethan Wilson
Go be stupid somewhere else mudshit
Jordan Collins
>Why is Sup Forums so threatened by auto-pilots?
because they think trucks are sky? because they can't stop at red lights? because most proponents of them claim they will one day make driving your own car illegal?
Aaron Edwards
Why have Huehues been such nonsensical little rat-like things, lately, always looking to gnaw at others' feets, looking for a fight no one cares about? Too much negative press between the presidential scandal and the crashing and burning Olympic construction?
Tyler Barnes
I'd rather have a million auto-pilots than a single drunk person on wheels.
Samuel Phillips
Then at least when you die it's your own fault, and not something else's.
And what's wrong with manual?
Carson Taylor
A million autopilots that literally can't stop at a red light is a lot more dangerous than one drunk guy.
Parker Rivera
>trusting a computer to get it right >ever
shit automatic transmissions cant get it right the majority of the time. and you are trusting your life with pajiit to not poo in your code?
you are either brave, or retarded.
i barely trust the standard ecu working with o2 sensors to do its job correctly.
give me a full manual car with a Spartan layout any day.
Kayden Hill
can anyone make any sense of what the monkey is trying to say?
Josiah Parker
>Programmers will get better whatever you say phajeet
Nathaniel Ramirez
Call Ahmed. He always makes your wife talk in tongues.
Jordan Martinez
>deserved it
Matthew Phillips
Friendly reminder that human error behind the wheel kills 95 people a day in America
James Evans
At least he died being a smug, progressive cunt. It's a little easier to accept if you're doing something you love.
Isaac Anderson
Imagine being Emma Watson in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Rupert Grint, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your red hair and doughy lumpy blubber face. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all she really wants to do is fuck another 21 year old chad in her dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Emma Watson and not only stand around in the rubble while Rupert flaunts his freckly visage in front of you, the bright sunlight barely concealing his bright red hair, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while he perfected that speech scene. Not only having to tolerate his corpulant fucking visage but his haughty attitude as everyone on set tells him he's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, RUPERT ACTS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his doughy fucking butter face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of chads and BBCs and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in England. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his bulbous forehead as he sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in his "statuesque (for that is what he calls himself)" physique, the physique he worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could fuck every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Emma Watson. You're not going to tarnish your acting career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
Asher Robinson
This.
Sup Forums is too busy talking about how auto-pilots are bad because they don't understand it.
This entire thread has no arguements.
That manchild knew the risks.
By the way, Sup Forums, if a car accident ever happens as a result of an auto-pilot malfunction, who is to blame legally and financially for the damage?
The driver, the manufacturers or the jews?
Cooper Reyes
>And what's wrong with manual? It borders between Luddism and a FLAC-tier self delusion.
Hudson Mitchell
autism, not even once
Benjamin Young
>"ALL CARS WILL BE SELF-DRIVING IN A DECADE! TRUST ME GUYS!"
"Self-driving cars" is basically the new "flying cars"
Carter Scott
I think you need to get in a Tesla and drive to a red light.
You'll really prove your "argument" then, ;^)
Jeremiah Davis
t. never learned stick
Colton Edwards
You think too highly of a low IQ feminist.
The difference is that there was never a flying car running around everyday.
You fucker don't know anything.
t. someone who actually works on auto-pilot
Justin Nelson
manufacturer unless the auto pilot is advertised as flawed and on own risk.
Carter Morgan
dude is 100% at fault. Autopiolet doesnt mean you can just sit back and relax. Still have to look at your own surroundings.
Fucking moron got what he deserved and i can't see tesla getting in trouble one bit for this.
Eli Harris
Self driving car denial posts are my favorite. They'll be mainstream in less than ten years.
Countless lives will be saved without human error Travel times will be cut with perfectly coordinated traffic Air will be cleaner with fewer cars on the road Families will need fewer cars per household once driverless cars Insurance rates will go down A portion of auto service shops will close down Fuel prices will go down Prices for freight goods will go down Society will be much better off for it
Samuel Ortiz
this
Michael Harris
Tell me when self-driving cars are going to dominate the traffic then? I'm curious to know...
Bentley Evans
at some points it doesn't quite fit. good work nonetheless
Lucas Flores
You can remotely control regular cars already.
Luis Clark
with the decrease of fuel price i can afford to drive my quad turbo twincharged 450 longblock manual diesel.
Leo Hall
TOP LEL
Hudson Watson
As soon as the state legally defines who is to compensate damages financially.
Obama has given the first steps this year to pass a general regulation for auto-piloting cars.
As soon as congress actually votes for one code, we'll have auto-pilot everywhere.
There are technically already models which can park by themselves and have auto-breaks that will mechanically brake you car with 100 times more reflexes than your average human.
We live in enlightened times. Calling auto-pilot a "science-fiction" is just ridiculous.