Vegans still in charge of being fucking insane and still defending this

Vegans still in charge of being fucking insane and still defending this.

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hopkinsmedicine.org/healthlibrary/conditions/adult/pediatrics/malnutrition_22,Malnutrition/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country
statisticbrain.com/vegetarian-statistics/
web.archive.org/web/20041017010055/http://www.veganmd.org/september2003.html
cra.iaea.org/crp/project/ProjectDetail?projectId=2048&lastActionName=OpenedCRPList
youtube.com/watch?v=u8i74I6LTNo
youtu.be/JbhgX6FyiU8
lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-B12#deficiency-causes
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

They are also doing it with their pets now.

>Kids never get malnourished if their parents eat meat

Here's some info

hopkinsmedicine.org/healthlibrary/conditions/adult/pediatrics/malnutrition_22,Malnutrition/
>About 1 percent of children in the United States suffer from chronic malnutrition.

Only like .003% of the United states is vegan.

Conclusion: op is a fag

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>0.003%
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country

1.5m is a little more than 100k, and it's growing cause US is engorged by fads.

There is a way to be vegan correctly just as there is a way to eat correctly.
The problem is you don't instantly die when you feed a young child non-vegan incorrectly

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how come the adults can live through it them?

not defending the vegan diet just curious

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supplements, and most "cheat".

because adult bodies are already developed and can survive on harsh conditions while kids need a a lot of food to grow and develop. vegan diet is usually unhealthy it just doesnt kill adults as quickly

HOLY SHIt

makes sense.
thanks

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Wtf I hate Italy now

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These people under eat and underfeed their babies.
A lot of people with eating disorders go vegan.

There really isn't an issue with veganism as long as you have the time and money to follow it safely. These people clearly just do not.

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Adults don't need breast milk. We can eat solid food too.

>scurvy
Fucking hell I didn't even know it's still possible to get that.

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>Giving a two-year-old breast milk

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Scurvy is mainly vitamin C deficiency I believe. The thing is that meat doesn't contain vitamin C as far as I know. Lemons and oranges do.

What about the thousands of vegan children and adults who've been vegan their whole life who are healthy and have no developmental issues?
You have to understand that veganism attracts some squirrelly people. These people fed their children with crap and didn't have a basic understanding of macro and micro nutrients.'

Sup Forums loves to talk about hormones in water, dairy, meat, plastic etc and act surprised when people not raised on those products develop normally.

I'm not defending the horrible and ignorant people that caused that starved their children to death but there is a way to do it properly.

Yup, I knew a lady who's killed four dogs that way.

Doesn't matter. Facts don't matter, just her emotions.

>but there is a way to do it properly.
Yes, not at all.
Empathy towards non-humans is a disease.
War is the cure.

Let's not lump vegetarians with vegans, & more importantly, let's not overlook the poor bio-availability of some nutrients and protein of a plant-based diet.

Case in point.

>>statisticbrain.com/vegetarian-statistics/ is what I used, which says there is 1 million vegans in the US. It's the same company they used a polling system.

Who is more likely to take a poll on dietary habits, a normal person or a vegan?

I've been vegan for nearly 10 years and I've never met another vegan, besides teenagers who tried it for a week, and 1 cashier.

I've never even seen another person looking in the vegan section at the grocery store. I even live in hipster areas. Does a person who is temporarily vegan to lose weight really qualify?

There's many reasons to doubt those numbers.

No way in hell are 1/200 people honestly strict vegetarians.

This.
Be extremely careful with B vitamins deficiency and proteins.

The protein argument is a total farce. Everything has protein, it is the last thing you need to worry about.

Calcium, b12, and omega 3s are what you're looking for.

Vegetarian is pretty easy.
Vegan is the hard and unhealthy part.

Exactly.

Vegan diet is one of the most expensive diets out there, and requires constant self-monitoring and years, years of research to actually know what you're doing.

If you just "decide" to go vegan and you think that means just avoiding animal products, you will wreck your health slowly.

At least with these "vegan" children, they are young, so once they get on a much more nutritious diet, with the right vitamin and mineral supplements, and a little exercise and time outside, they should be able to recover.

If the child is too far gone to recover, that should be huge red flag that the parents are mentally ill.

Because the symptoms of malnutrition are easy to recognize, and the parents who can't recognize their child is not growing, not emotionally balanced, not alert, and losing strength, mobility, and motor function steadily over the course of months, that's plenty of time to recognize the problem.

If the child is so sick they can't recover, it means the parents hid the problem and covered it up instead of addressing it.

Not all proteins are the same.
Some proteins are more equal than others.
#GastheVegansProteinwarnow

There isn't much you can do to fix brain damage.

Doing God's work, here sir.

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>Vegan is the hard and unhealthy part.
Yeah, even hardcore Mahayana Buddhists let their kids eat meat.

>unhealthy
Statistically it's not. You can cherry pick these scary stories all you like, but omnivores are vitamin deficient as well. It's not a vegan problem.

Vegan Diets Deficient in Three Nutrients?
Well, Meateaters are Deficient in Seven!
>web.archive.org/web/20041017010055/http://www.veganmd.org/september2003.html
Yes I know the URL has the word, "vegan" but it is well sourced information.

REFERENCES

[1] Results from the German Vegan Study. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition 57(August 2003):947.
[2] USDA. Food and Nutrient Intakes by Individuals in the United States, by Region, 1994-96.
[3] World Health Organization Technical Report Series 916. Diet, Nutrition and the Prevention of Chronic Diseases. 2003.
[4] Centers for Disease Control.
[5] Then you can finally answer their question and proudly say B12 fortified foods or B12 supplements :) Of course the fact that we're seriously deficient in B12 should not be taken lightly. Evidence suggests that our low B12 intakes make be shaving literally years off of the lives of vegetarians and vegans, so make sure you get your B12!--I recommend "Vitamin B12: Are You Getting It?"
[6] Tufts University Health and Nutrition Letter. August 2003. 21(6):2
[7] Journal of The American College of Nutrition 22(August 2003):296.
[8] Green Tea and the Risk of Breast Cancer in Asian Americans. International Journal of Cancer 106(August 2003):574.
[9] Journal of the National Cancer Institute 95(2003):1079.
[10] Public Health Nutrition 5(2002):29 and American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 70(1999):516s.
[11] Journal of the American Medical Association 282(1999):1283.

Vegans are terribly annoying.

I deal with them every day, it makes me want to commit sudoku, and I would if it didn't pay well.

They substitute their lifestyle for religion, are perpetually grievanced and never happy, and ignore a hundred other things they do every day that are destructive in order to spend their time preaching their gospel to anyone dumb enough to listen.

Faggots and cunts, every last one of them.

Brb taking multi
No vegan, but fucking hell

What's so expensive about rice and beans? Bananas? Cereal and milk? I eat normal food and it's cheaper than average. Admittedly I am a minimalist but there's nothing necessarily expensive about a vegan diet. Expensive fake meats aren't even healthy.

Yes that's the myth I hear everyday. Go on nutritionaldata.self.com and look at the protein contents of random foods. You'll find that incomplete proteins are a myth. They're so rare I can never remember which foods have incomplete animo acid profiles.

>You can cherry pick these scary stories all you like.
Thats not even me, thats a different german. Look at the ID's.
If there are any pure "meateaters" then they are just as stupid as vegans.
Balance is the way to go. And if omnivores lack vitamins then thats because of their shitty diet, not because they are omnivores.

Its "expensive" because the majority of vegans are stupid hipsters who buy expensive as hell "bio" food.

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know an Indian student from University

one of those religions that doesn't eat any meat, not sure about sacred-cow milk.

>Guess you can have a vegan Babay' as long as parent are Libtards

It's not a myth and I don't know why you keep denying the problem. Just look at this draft.

>Recently, protein quality has emerged as an important health issue, especially in low income countries where plants form the main source of protein in the diet. Protein quality is likely to have an impact on the WHO Global Nutrition Target 2025 of reducing the prevalence of stunting (low height-for-age) in children under 5 years by 40%.

>This CRP aims to develop and validate novel, minimally invasive techniques to assess protein digestibility and utilization from plant based diets, as they are consumed by vulnerable populations, in regions habitually relying on plant based diets.

cra.iaea.org/crp/project/ProjectDetail?projectId=2048&lastActionName=OpenedCRPList

Why do you think the Dutch are one of the tallest people in the world?

That has entirely to do with mineral depletion of the soil.

The soil is nutritionally dead and kept "alive" artificially by petrochemical fertilizers that end up stripping the soil even further.

And that's where all your commercial fruits and vegetables are grown, in a petrochemical growth medium derived from what was once dirt.

This mass corporate farming system you see currently feeding about 4 billion people is just a few short decades from complete collapse.

>2 year old does crossfit for the 1st time with babby weight
>goes to snap city

had it coming 2bh pham

>What's so expensive about rice and beans? Bananas? Cereal and milk?

Milk isn't vegan.

As for the rest, it's not expensive to eat a vegan diet. You misunderstood me.

I said it's expensive to do it CORRECTLY, i.e. actually getting enough nutrients across the board to keep yourself at optimum nutritional levels.

Obviously you can eat nothing but beans and squash and survive on that for decades, but it's not a "healthy" diet.

>Dr. Faisal Ahmed, a pediatrician

Pescatarianism is the true master race, just like noble Japanese before imperialist US contact.

I see, so sustainable farming is slash and burn a new field every few years

why do so many people claim to be experts?

bio chemistry is very complex, being able to put food into our mouths, does not make you an expert.

amateur vegan nutritionists

Based Australian gov.

>And if omnivores lack vitamins then thats because of their shitty diet, not because they are omnivores.
But when vegans lack nutrients it's because they're vegan. Ok.

I look at the amino acid profile of the foods I eat. I'm getting my information directly from the source. I gave you the website and everything, try it out.

>Milk isn't vegan.
Are you serious? Of course I meant nut milks.

Every food I listed there is a packed with a wide variety of nutrients.

Hilarious that someone who thinks beans can't keep you at optimum levels of nutrition. Beans are top tier health foods.

I don't even know why I bother. Clearly nobody is interested in understanding nutrition, you just want to justify your habits.

I'm not even judgemental toward omnivores but it's frustrating that we can't have a productive discussion about diet without propaganda and myths spoiling it.

yea boii

It's not about the parents being vegan you fucking leaf, it's about the baby being RAISED vegan.

>belgium
>Exercise a high degree of caution
;_; just nuke us already famiglia

Would you like to know the best part?

This is from before the terrorist attacks in France and Belgium

Wasn't that literally an episode of House?

>But when vegans lack nutrients it's because they're vegan. Ok.

No, it's because veganism is the absence of a balanced diet. You cannot get certain nutrients from a vegan diet alone, as opposed to a balanced omnivorous diet. You need supplements and drugs as a vegan, and even those have a poor absorption ratio - from 1000mcg of B12, only 1% makes it into your body. B12 shots are the most effective and a must for vegans.

>you shouldnt force religion onto your child they should make that choice not you!
>forces child to be on a vegan diet

Vegans counter this argument with "my parents forced me to eat meat."

I pity kids such as this one so much, being denied normal development and growing to their full potential. youtube.com/watch?v=u8i74I6LTNo

>juice cleanse
>800 calories
>vegan
it's like the title didn't bother to read the article

Could you please acquire sources from at least the last ten years, thanks. Unless the rest of your "people" have died out.

>wallpaper made from hooves and skin

is this a fluffy abuse image?

She's was an anorexic shithead using veganism to mask her eating disorder, like the majority of vegans girls. I only posted her because she's now thicc and hot af.

Fucking statist bootlickers in this thread want to take away parent's rights to malnourish their children

Unfortunately it is not.
Fun fact: In the US its technically not legal to feed cow scraps to other cows but feeder operations do it anyway (The regulators are well bribed so they don't give a shit)

Kek

It doesn't get worse than this twisted logic :
>60 billion animals are murdered every year.
>6 million animals were murdered during the Holocaust.
youtu.be/JbhgX6FyiU8
These vegans, particularly in New York, are encouraged by cult-thinking in New York that affirms this kind of spectacle. They think that, because they are being "authentic" in their lives, that they can force this shit on us. This is cult thinking. Look at the damage, injury that these people are inflicting on others.

SeeOmnivores are deficient in more nutrients than vegans, statistically.

The only nutrient not found in a vegan diet is b12. That is added to nut milks, cereals, and various other products.

I would like a source on your claim that I'm only absorbing 1% of the b12 in my cereal. I should be in a hospital by now if that was true.

A vegan should also replace fish with hemp seeds or a sea plant. It's really not so hard, most people never eat fish so it's not like vegans are the only ones lacking omega 3s.

RIP
No wonder i got touched at the airport in Dubai and Perth by customs

Looks hot as fuck, when thin.

>All vegans are deficient in B-vitamins
>"That's okay I'll just take supplements."
>The supplements are made from animals

Cute whore. Is there porn of her?

so why do children who are forced to have a vegan diet by their parents have such fucked up bone and teeth issues? They didn't take their b12 supplements?

You're literally a retard who cannot read.

Refer to this to know why your B12 stores haven't been depleted yet: And the source for 1:1000 B12 absorption ratio was slapped across your face right here: >lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-B12#deficiency-causes

Also, look it up.

>the oldest known bow was 10,000 years old and made using hoof glue.
>me face when berry picker can only survive thanks to alpha carnist meat-chad letting him
>me face when berry picker think they friend of animal but live in society created by alpha carnist meat-chad
go live in forest berry picker no meat see how you last

B12 added to vegan nut milks, cereals etc comes from animals. So stop taking B12 supplements, you're not a real vegan.

Yes. Humans NEED meat.

>Omnivores are deficient in more nutrients than vegans, statistically.

It is an adaptation that allows greater chances of survivability in a multitude of environments. Creatures that can vary their diet will have much higher chances of survival than a creature who can only eat one type of food... only to find their food sources depleted/sparse/non-existent.

Overall, omnivores are less efficient at everything in regards to digestion, but since there is a wider variety of food available, they can simply switch up sources and consume more of what is around. It is sort of like a "jack of all trades" deal, omnivores are good at everything, great at nothing (insofar as digestion efficiency goes).

They're made in transgenic bacteria aren't they?

I'm a meat chad. I have girls always flirting with me all the time in public, randomly, of all ages.I eat half a kilogram of meat every day. Walk at 6'3 tall, and have huge cock bulge, and massive muscles and strength.

So what you're saying is those 11 sources are too old?

This is what I was getting earlier. You're just looking to "debunk" veganism. In any other scenario that would have been adequate information.

I haven't even suggested than vegan ism is healthier, I think omnivores and vegans are very similar. They're just deficient in different nutrients, as I linked above.

>Source: my magical yapping anus.

>scurvy
>SCURVY

It's...it's 2016, honestly, nobody even gets that anymore.

Sorry mate but you don’t seem to understand what b12 is. It’s not produced by plants and not produced by animals. It’s produced by bacteria. We are not receiving b12 because we treat our water supply. Cows do need b12 as well (look this up) maybe they should a "balanced diet" which includes meat? You sir are a fucking retard.
we treat our water supply. Cows do need b12 aswell (look this up) maybe they should a "balanced diet" which includes meat? you sir are a fucking retard.