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where we're going we won't need roads

Every time there's a pepe like this, I try to match his expression.

people build roads, not the government

Corporations

the NAP will build the roads

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THAT WILL BE 5 BUCKS IF YOU WANT TO SHITPOST ON MY ROAD GOYPATRIOT

>when the government tries to initiate force on you

then someone else will just build a road next to yours and charge 4 bucks

rinse & repeat until the best method is established

+ you'll have plenty of extra income from not going to taxes so the extra cash you're spending on things are actually being spent on what you're using and not going to waste

>mfw troll threads like this work errytime
:^)

>muh "roads are socialism!" meme
wew

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I'm afraid that there's a private property on the way. And the owner doesn't want to sell. How do we expropriate? :(

>its never happened before so it can never be done

what a dumb (((((((((scientist)))))))))))

Rothbard actually has a pretty decent answer to who would provide the roads in "For a new liberty"
I would have to look it up, but im too lazy desu

How do Ancaps resolve the environmental issues? "Fuck everything give me money"?

Figure that first and maybe you'd convince me.

>pilot hovercraft on private toll roads
>"actually im above your toll road not on it"
>they can't do shit about it because NAP
smugpepe

DONT NEED MONEY

Fuck the roads, who is going to make sure we don't drown? 800 years of governmental water management isn't because infrastructure sorts itself out...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_board_(Netherlands)

>roads

Roads are a luxury. You can buy them yourself..

Shit guys I built my house out in the acreage, but I forgot only the government builds roads, now I cant drive to my house :(

Why do greens often think importing millions of rapidly-breeding third-worlders with no environmental conscience will help the native environment?

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Because rayciss

isnt your country gonna be sea in less than 100 years anyway?

le spooky spooks

Why do we have to care about the environment if it harms humans tremendously? I mean, I'd hope you'd agree that humans come before everything.

That's autistic as hell.

I don't see now.. It's under water as it is, and it's not like we were expecting that to magically change.

Though I suppose it would help if you'd stop digging at our beaches, Fritz.. It's not the Atlantikwal anymore.

>now
*how

This picture looks like a cities skylines screenshot

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>that huge seagull-shredder array

RIP, birds.

obligatory

You profess to be a libertarian or ancap, and yet you don't know who Rothbard is? U trolling or just retarded, m8?

Which issues? How has government solved these issues?

why do libertarians hate roads so much?

Do people seriously think some entrepenuer wouldn't have come around and went "Hey guys I'm building a faster and more convenient way to travel!"

I mean yeah you'd probably have to buy a membership to the road to use it but think about how nice it would be, there would be rich people roads, poor people roads.

I mean you already "pay" for roads with taxes anyway, at least with privatized roads the nicer more efficient ones would have less people on them

I though anarcho capitalism was a meme
literally a world without morals, complete chaos

Fuck seagulls, they're a plague anyway
>Ride bike through city at 5:00
>Fucking gulls, crows and pidgeons everywhere
>At intersections, just chilling with their torn bin liners and garbage
They make more mess when they're NOT shredded.

You privatize parks, forests, rivers, etc. and you can sue corporations or people if they damage your property, in this case parks, forests, rivers, etc.

You could also sue these corporations if the smokes affected your lungs and so on (they'd be violating the NAP).

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build around?

I don't know, why do statists like government roads so much when they're A) Expensive and full of embezzlement B) Often built in completely nonsense areas like deserts which aren't planned for habitation for decades which are a waste and C) Break down all the fucking time

Why do you think I'm a green voter? I'm very conservative with the sole exception of environmentalism. It is the Achilles' Heel of Liberalism and if I could be convinced that environmental protection could be secured with minimal or no governmental regulation than you'd have a convert. That being said I don't approve of global government being the answer either.

This is absolutely false, especially when people are connected as communities. Groups of people can just choose not to shop at Person A's business, or hire Person A because they are a child abuser or whatever. Person A is losing money fast, and knows exactly why. He then fixes his shit to appease the market, and people might come back. People might not come back, either.

>a world without morals, complete chaos
>yfw anarcho capitalism is already functioning as we speak on the international stage, and yet magically the world isn't complete chaos or without morals

>implying monopolies won't force them to buy needed goods from one source
>implying a monopoly will not begin to dictate other rules and people have to follow them to gain what is produced

>implying ancapism doesn't lead to statism

>LOW QUALITY
>OVER BUDGET
>5 YEARS OVERDUE
The story of the repair of a county road near me.

>won't force them to buy needed goods from one source
Force them how?

Just quit cities skylines 5 min ago, such a raging boner right now.

"anarcho-capitalism" makes no sense, the state and capital rely on each other

>Implying predatory monopolies can exist in a truly unregulated market
Monopolies are due to government regulation and corporate lobbying.

by being the only source for that good, and if that good is necessary for survival, well

Also, land ownership exists in ancapism. A company that owns the land around a community owns that community, as they can charge and tx the hell out of anyone leaving or entering the community

thats a lot of heroin and a lot of kindergartener prostitutes

>and if I could be convinced that environmental protection could be secured with minimal or no governmental regulation than you'd have a convert.
there are a few points to that, like i said go and read Rothbards "For a new Liberty" it does explain it in some detail there
What i remember from the top of my head
>conservation of resources would happen because exhausting all the resources at once just isnt profitable (ie you would like a steady income over as much of a time period as possible)

Come back when you understand English, Ahmed.

Do ancaps celebrate Easter?

oh man, the netherlands has GOAT land management

Not an argument.

free markets lead to monopolies. Supply and demand is not a constant, and can easily be influenced by the company to affect how other companies perform. Besides, how do you plan on dismantaling the pre-exsisting structures that contribute to monopolies? Redistribute all land?

Must suck for people like me who live in low-income low-population density areas to get roads built. It's not profitable for companies and the people can't afford to pay for it.

If only there was a centralized authority that could ensure that all citizens had access to infrastructure.

You can drive on my road for a little more, but theres less traffic because not everyone wants to pay that little more.

How do you achieve a monopoly?

How do you force people to buy things from a monopoly?

How is this better than the GUARANTEE of a monopoly under the actual statism status quo?

Do Statists celebrate the NAP?

Read more Rothbard.

It is though, if you can't assimilate you should fuck off.

>literally getting triggered by memes

People fucking pay for billboards near the road

Or cars pay per usage

You retarded kraut shit

NAP?

>How do you achieve a monopoly?
by controlling a portion of the market

>How do you force people to buy things from a monopoly?
by being the only provider of a needed resource. Read my fucking posts, cuck

>How is this better than the GUARANTEE of a monopoly under the actual statism status quo?
It literally leads to a state

East Silesia?
>CAPTCHA: 420

If free markets lead to monopolies, then what do you recommend? A state-run monopoly, also known as Socialism or Communism?

Would you rather have someone you can fight against or someone you can't?

Wrong kind of capital. Capital in this context is the profit from a combination of goods and services. You are thinking a state or country's capital, i.e the location where much of the governmental buildings and officials reside.

To crash a monopoly you literally need one entrepreneur that has a better product. To stand by his company and not sell it to you

South Tyrol?

DON'T TAKE FAME

Are you autistic?

Yeah I imagine you'd see free roads littered with billboards, tho I know some people wouldn't use them cause ads trigger people for some reason.

Switching something?

>A state-run monopoly, also known as Socialism or Communism?
That isn't the defintion of either, and I advocate anarchism

>Would you rather have someone you can fight against or someone you can't?
Ancapism and statism are a common enemy - because they are both states.

>To crash a monopoly you literally need one entrepreneur that has a better product. To stand by his company and not sell it to you
Like I said in an earlier post (read the fucking posts), supply and demand are not the only determining factors. A competitor needs access to the smae resources to build similar (but better) products. If an electronics monopoly controlled all sources of rare earth metals, competitors are screwed

At least with corporations you know their end game is money, with the government god knows what the fuck they want.


"Better the Devil you know yada yada"

Name some goods that are necessary for survival that can only be produced by a single source.

As for creating a de-facto tyranny by barricading someone into a tiny area wouldn't be supported by most people in any society, and therefore wouldn't be supported by the largest courts and protection agencies. Any company who did that would get fucked.

Remember, the NAP is a principle, just like "don't be an asshole" is a principle. It's not some airtight doctrine that you must blindly obey to the letter even when it ceases to make sense.

If only there were some way to travel on surfaces other than fresh, clean government pavement...

DON'T NEED A CREDT CARD

>just don't have paved roads lol
This is why no one in the world takes you seriously.

WHERE WE'RE GOING WE DON'T NEED EYES TO SEE

Or, you know, have the industries that rely on the roads pay for them directly? And have them hire QUALITY, INEXPENSIVE, EFFICIENT workers to build the road?

>we should let people exploit us because at least we know thier reasooning behind the exploitation
If corporations exploit us, and the state exploits us, and we do not want to be exploited, we should fight against both

>Name some goods that are necessary for survival that can only be produced by a single source.
Food
water

That's survival, of course. A company may also control the electrical grid, or communications, or weaponry

>As for creating a de-facto tyranny by barricading someone into a tiny area wouldn't be supported by most people in any society
Obviously, that's why the force would be used

>nd therefore wouldn't be supported by the largest courts and protection agencies
Only if they're guys can fight the company's guys

>Remember, the NAP is a principle, just like "don't be an asshole" is a principle. It's not some airtight doctrine that you must blindly obey to the letter even when it ceases to make sense.
Yeah. It can also be abandoned completly, by, say, some organization interested in gaining profit from people through say, some form of taxation instead of selling products

all the Easter posting messed with my brain

>and I advocate anarchism
So presumably you're an ancom?

You're the retard crying about not having roads. I just gave you a solution. You realize that even first-world nations have cheap gravel roads in rural areas, and everyone seems to manage just fine?

If there is such a demand for paved roads, people will cough up the cash. If there isn't, suck it up and drive on dirt roads. It really isn't bad, you effete Yuropoor cuck.

I'm not saying we let the corporations exploit us, I'm saying since their end result is profit there is at least a clear, not necessarily easy, but clear path to depriving them of their goal.

I do the same

>So presumably you're an ancom?
Correct

>I'm saying since their end result is profit there is at least a clear, not necessarily easy, but clear path to depriving them of their goal.
I am glad to see someone I agree with here. Are you an anti-capitalist?If so, greetings, comrade

But why would I care if Guy A likes to shit on toddlers and decapitate puppies if he sells stuff for the lowest price and highest quality?
Money speaks louder than words

Why don't Americans celebrate Easter?

No, I'm saying that if capitalism were abused to such a degree that an oppressive monopoly formed that did more harm than good it could be fought by depriving it of profit, whereas with a government the only way to fight an oppressive regime is to violently overthrow it.

>Food
You mean the thing that can be produced with dirt, sunlight, and water?

>water
You mean the thing that can be produced with a shovel, some arms, a rope, and a bucket, literally everywhere on the fucking planet?

>Only if they're guys can fight the company's guys
In every society, there are far more people demanding protection from criminals, than there are criminals demanding protection to commit crimes. The mass of "peaceful" people outnumber the criminal element by several orders of magnitude. So does their money.

Security agencies make their money by offering protection to as large a market as possible. Since 99% of the population is "good", that's who they'll cater to. No upjumped company that thinks it's a new dictatorial nation-state will get very far in combat, becase
a) they are heavily outnumbered and outgunned by mainstream security agencies
b) their revenues come from voluntary sales; if people get wind that Wal Mart is literally murdering people or starving them to death, there go Wal Mart's revenues, straight to the next best competitor.

saved

Then that's, like, your choice, man. Who am I to stop you from going in?

>Correct
So how would you enforce the abolition of "private" property? Through some sort of centralized organization that could direct the collective use of force against transgressors, perhaps?

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