Is he the best in the world at the moment

is he the best in the world at the moment

Looks like a specialist in failure to me. Wake me up when his team doesn't bottle a title after looking good in few games

>never won a single trophy as a manager ever
>world's best

What did he mean by this?

he beat the reigning CL champions 4-2 on aggregate with a vastly cheaper team

Girona beat RM by the same ratio. What does that say about them?

That their manager is goat?

Obviously it means Girona is the best team in the world.

>beating Zinefraud Zidane's RM in late 2017
>a groundbreaking achievement
Oh please

What trophy did they win for that great achievement? Put it next to the Runners Up and Lost in the Semi Final trophies.

No but he's pretty good. He's been absolutely amazing for Tottenham, it's night and day compared to when he first showed up. I think he's one of the top 10 in the world.

Girona won 2-1 in a close game. Spurs absolutely stomped Madrid, it took a really late Ronaldo goal to make the scoreline look even halfway respectable.

He still has to win a fucking trophy.

As much as it pisses you guys off the best coaches in the world are still pep and mourinho

>implying he could he handle the Sturato

>Pep
>Chequebook manager who didn't win shit last year when even fucking ARSENAL won something

>Mouyes
>Chequebook manager who has the highest total spend of any manager in history

Mouyes is better than Pep but they're both shit compared to SAF and the GOAT Liverpool managers.

While this may be true, an independent performance is anecdotal unless you actually win the trophy relative to it. That's why Girona beating RM or Celta Vigo cucking Barca is meaniningless because those teams have never won La Liga. Until Spurs actually win something no one will take them seriously, no matter how solid they are.

They just need to win the CL, which is very possible for them and I say that as an Arsenal fan. As long as Alli, Dier and Kane remain injury free, they're easily able to win.

>While this may be true, an independent performance is anecdotal unless you actually win the trophy relative to it.

But it's not just an independent performance. Spurs are punching way above their weight consistently, that's why Pochettino is getting so much praise. They're closer, in terms of wages, to Everton than they are to Liverpool, let alone United/City/Chelsea/Arsenal and of course Madrid. They shouldn't be anywhere near this good. They shouldn't even be in the Champions League,
let alone be on the verge of winning a group containing Madrid and Dortmund. If they were just having a rare good performance, then they'd be finishing 5th-8th on a regular basis as Spurs did for most of the 20 years preceding Pochettino. In terms of Pochettino's standing as a manager, it's a big deal.

Means nothing for Spurs though in the end, this will just be a period where they were decent and when Pochettino wins trophies with some richer team people will just look back at them as a stepping stone. He's a managerial version of Bale or Modric for them.

Are you a jew by any chance?

>it's the Amerishart spuds r*dditor
Embarrassing post.

They just need to win the CL, which is very possible for them and I say that as an Arsenal fan. As long as Alli, Dier and Kane remain injury free, they're easily able to win.

>don't have an argument
>I know I'll just say r*dditor

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It's independent unless they win the CL. The same way their second place road to the EPL became independent when they got 3-3'd by Chelsea. It's all about the final result

>bottle a title
>they were never in first place
>they were still the only team to challenge both of the last champions
potato faminer opinions discarded

It's all about the final result from the pov of fans arguing about which club is better. If we're just discussing how good a manager is, getting a club that has no business being anywhere near a trophy very close to it is impressive. Simeone failed to win the CL, technically, but people would still call him one of the best managers in Europe for coming so close with Atletico Madrid of all teams. It's similar to how a player can play for a team that doesn't win anything but we still recognize that he's a good player. To continue the Atleti analogy, Griezmann hasn't won a single trophy other than a second division title with Real Sociedad like 10 years ago.

True, but the 2nd place finish wasn't anecdotal. I'd rather finish 2nd in the PL than win the Carabao or FA cup t b h.

>Mouyes
>Chequebook manager
He won a CL with Porto.

>supporting arselel, liverpoop, or manshitster
embarrasing

>good managers choose to manage wealthy clubs
>they win against other wealthy clubs
Next you're going to complain that Messi and Ronaldo only win titles with well-paid teammates

With some of the worlds best players. Deco could have gotten in any team in the world. That's irrelevant, the stats speak for themselves, he's spent the most in the world in all of history. He has one of the largest spending per trophy records.

You fucking what? Barca at best competed with Madrid and A.Madrid. Bayern literally has Dortmund as their only challenger. As soon as he came here, he got found out. So solution? Spent £300m more.

>Barca at best competed with Madrid and A.Madrid.
Is competing with Real Madrid, especially Mourinho's Real Madrid, not respectable? They did win La Liga, smashing multiple records along the way.
>As soon as he came here, he got found out.
Finished 3rd in his first season with an aging squad that had finished 4th the previous season, didn't he?
>Spent £300m more.
Yes, spending money is how you overhaul a squad. Shockingly, clubs are not willing to part with talented players for free, and even more shockingly, English youth academies just don't produce the players needed to win a title.

looks like a pig

can't respect a man who looks like a pig

Then you're a shitposter, because literally nobody would trade finishing 2nd to winning a FA Cup. They'd only be OK with it if they're debuting in the CL the next season but Spurs weren't. Winning trophies is what you play football for; winning the rare and illustrious 'Finish 2nd' trophy isn't comparable. But why would a JF understand this? Like saying an NFL team would be happy to trade coming 3rd instead of winning the Superb Owl.

No, it's not. You come into a squad that should be competing even with a fucking badger in charge is not spectacular. Also well done for ignoring his stint at Bayern, or Buyern as it's largely known. Also, oh wow, he finished 3rd instead of 4th winning nothing in the process when even fucking Arsenal managed to win something? United won THREE trophies last year. As for your final point, thank you for supporting and confirming he's a chequebook manager.

Even Pochettino himself said last night that it means nothing without silverware.

Words we all know he'll come to regret.

>Also well done for ignoring his stint at Bayern, or Buyern as it's largely known.
At Bayern he had to deal with an excellent Dortmund team for one season, annihilated them, and then they fell apart. Not Guardiola's fault they went to shit. Also, IIRC Dortmund set the record for most points by a second place team under Tuchel, Guardiola's Bayern was just fucking flawless so it didn't matter.

>Also, oh wow, he finished 3rd instead of 4th winning nothing in the process when even fucking Arsenal managed to win something?
He took an aging team that was getting worse and worse and managed to actually improve them. Also the FA Cup is not a big deal anymore. If it was, nobody would question Arsene Wenger's place at Arsenal because he's won this oh-so-prestigious trophy a couple times in the last few years. Louis Van Gaal would not have been fired literally minutes after winning it. Guardiola at Man City was always meant to be a long-term project, and so far he's doing pretty well.

Except Simeone has silverware, and that's my point. He failed to win the CL but as a manager he has a La Liga, a Copa, a UEFA Supercup, Supercopa, and so on. The fact that he's won the league (and give or take some meme cups) is testament to the fact that he gets to be part of the conversation. In hindsight if Poch wins nothing, no one will praise him for good performances since the aim of a good performance is a result, and the aim of a result is a trophy. It's all futile and he's proven since 2014 that he has what it takes to make Spurs a top 5 team but they still need to win. I mean he said it himself after the RM game.

>FA Cup is not a big deal any more
Dropped. Stick to shitposting about clubs going out of competitions or something mate. But hey, Pep can't even win such a 'not a big deal' trophy like the FA Cup, let alone the literally fucking who trophies of League Cup? Top fucking kek. You can't have it both ways. Also Wenger is being questioned because he can manage to win trophies but he can't manage to win league Titles. The point being he's quality enough to do it and winning 3 FA Cup's in 4 years is relevant, whether you think so or not. Pep has spent nearly as much in 2 years as Wenger has in 20 years. That's not good when you can't even TRY and challenge. Will he do it this year? Probably. As for Van Gaal being fired after winning it, he was in charge of a Title winning team and after spending £300m+ on it. Wonga hasn't spent £300m in the last 5 years if not 10.

quit kidding youself faggot. that porto team was filled with nobodies outside of deco (a player who wasn't doing much before Jose showed up) and carvalho

>who is Bosingwa
>who is Paulo Ferreira
>who is Jankauskas
>who is Costinha

These all went on to play hundreds of games each.

The FA Cup really doesn't matter that much anymore. Any of the top 6 PL clubs prioritize reaching the CL over winning it. Again, if the FA Cup mattered more then Van Gaal would still be managing United, and nobody would question Wenger.

>The point being he's quality enough to do it and winning 3 FA Cup's in 4 years is relevant
Most Arsenal fans seem to disagree since they're constantly calling for his head, and that has reached a fever pitch in this wonderfully successful period with 3 FA Cups.

like I said, literal nobodies before Jose showed up and they won the CL. the only reason any fan knows of Bosingwa and Paulo was because of their stints at Chelsea, and even then..

And I've explained why they want his head, because they're retards who think changing the manager will mean more success than they already got.

>Americans talking about what does or does not matter
Tell that to Portsmouth when they last won it.

literally no idea who jankauskas or costinha are

Porto FC CL winrar.exe

Well if we're talking about teams that aren't even in the PL then obviously the priority is different, isn't it? And I did say "the top 6 clubs". For any club outside that group, the FA Cup is amazing, and would probably be the best thing their club could ever hope to win unless a foreign billionaire decided he liked their colors/crest (like what happened with that Thai billionaire and Leicester).

People act like they're overachieving because they bought players cheap, forgetting their current value

Lloris, Rose, Vertonghen, Eriksen, Ali, Kane, Dembele are all worth $40 million plus.

If you posted the top teams in EPL in terms of their value, not what they were bought for, Spurs would be similar to City, United, etc

>People act like they're overachieving because they bought players cheap, forgetting their current value
>If you posted the top teams in EPL in terms of their value, not what they were bought for, Spurs would be similar to City, United, etc
>Lloris, Rose, Vertonghen, Eriksen, Ali, Kane, Dembele are all worth $40 million plus.

If you took the value of Atletico Madrid players in 2014-2016 or Dortmund players from 2010-2013 then they would be right up there with the top 5 richest clubs. It doesn't mean they didn't overachieve. Overachieve means they managed to identify/develop talented players that ordinarily the richer teams would get, or managed to get mediocre players to perform well as part of a system. A big part of the "overachievement" is scouting and youth development. None of those players for Spurs were worth anywhere near that much when Spurs bough them. Same goes for Atleti's players, and Dortmund's under Klopp.

So did you mean fucking Wenger>>>Pep??? Holy fuck

Who care? Anyway they will be sold and win nothing.

kek arsenal fan detected, go have a wank about finishing 5th and geting an fa cup again next year cunty

GOOD get.

stupid spuds just poked the bear. angry real gonna do the 3peat now

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Dude pep will walk the league this season and the next one also, maybe a CL final too. Then he will get bored and leave.
When you ´re at his position you don´t need to settle for a half decent right back that "does his job" or "has heart", his playstyle demands a certain kind of player and he will go where he can get those players.

100%

After Mou fucks off to PSG I really hope we try literally everything possible to get him at United for the long term

he can't move to real madrid fast enough...

Shoo shoo gook

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I agree that pep is very overrated but mourinho has proven he can do it at all levels

before porto the guy was extremely successful with a bottom tier club in portugal so it's kinda dumb to say he's a cheque book manager

and why are you bringing up saf the argument is whose the best in the world right now not of all time

T. Kim Jong Bogan

>finding out cheap good young players isn't good

err

Lmao first goal was offside by Trippier and second goal deflection.