I've just watched this movie. It's a masterpiece but I am literally vomiting

I've just watched this movie. It's a masterpiece but I am literally vomiting.

However, I found the strength to come by just tell all fucking Nazis and authoritarians to kill themselves.

Please oblige.

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>muh ebil notsees

>mah muhfugga noble natzees

Cut yourself DeShawn McTyrone.

>Autism

So a work of cinema was enough to get you to hate an entire movement, ideology, and system merely because it showed you brutalities?

It doesn't concern you in the least that these Russians have turned violence into a sort of fetish to be consumed for purposes of entertainment? Your stance against "authoritiarians" becoming cemented because you were shown a circus act?

You were never free thinking to begin with so your opinion is hardly a weighty one.

>that part where the SS Officer tells the partisans that they're sub-human and don't deserve to exist while facing certain death
pretty based

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And yet you would profess that "Good" won at the end of the war? Is that so, Poland? Did you already forget that your nation was used and completely abandoned at the end of the War, its purpose solely to provide a way in which international finance could appear "legitimate" in entering the war?

Partisans are despised by every decent soldier. Even in modern warfare. US soldiers coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq were highly critical of the methods that the Taliban employed.

Everyone likes to brandish the Nazi's as being "mean" to Partisans but throughout history this style of warfare was deemed cowardly and despised.

>i watched a soviet propaganda movie now I'm very angry and opinionated

If all you took away from that masterful film is "evil nazis" you are a mental invalid

>it's the hitlerboo circlejerking episode

You think you're smart, but the problem is not with historical facts.

The problem is that there are people around (e.g. ) that clap at this.
Namely, people that even if this had never happened, would love to see it happen.

My thought goes to them. What nauseates me is that there are people on this board that would love such scenario.

I'm not so naive to dislike authoritarianism just because of a feature film. Think again, because you are addressing me as if I woke up to reality 5 minutes ago -- which I haven't, because it's long been with me for the past years.

The problem is not whether the film is fiction of reality. The problem is that there are some people that would like to make such a thing happen, had they the power to.

>american gives you good argument
>omg hitlrboo u stld nazi11!
fuck off

>stupid looking russian kid makes funny faces at the camera for 2 hours: the movie

That isn't a retort nor an argument. In fact you not only failed to acknowledge any points you also failed to provide a reasonable counter-point.

What a waste of a post.

>However, I found the strength to come by just tell all fucking Nazis and authoritarians to kill themselves.
You needed a movie to give you the courage to come to an internet board? This is weak b8 australia

I don't agree with socialism or authoritarianism either, I'm a Constitutionalist. This thread however, is retarded.

Everybody have at least the decency to shut up and read: Press F to pay respects.

I acknowledge your post and you're far more coherent than idiots here but Germans made it clear it was a war of externination.
They would kill and starve people irregardless of whether they picked up the gun or not.
Almost 20 million civilians died, roughly 1/3rd of occupied population.

>You think you're smart, but the problem is not with historical facts.
This wasn't implied nor professed. I stated a thought and if that is enough to push you into believing that I'm looking at you in contempt you're consumed by indoctrination.

>The problem is that there are people around (e.g. ) that clap at this.

Because you have to acknowledge the duality of war. Nobody fights with the idea of being Evil or standing for Darkness. That poster is also from Latvia and if you acknowledge the way in which the USSR mistreated Latvia you would be able to make a reasonable connection.

>My thought goes to them. What nauseates me is that there are people on this board that would love such scenario.

This is because our generation is becoming heavily polarized due to the strength of the Left, international finance, and the way in which these organizations are pushing their globalist agenda onto all aspects of our society. You have to at least admit that globalism and the desecration of the respect of Law is being pushed the whole world over. Look at the blow back from Brexit alone, the voices that are condemning them and it isn't hard to connect the dots.

>I'm not so naive to dislike authoritarianism just because of a feature film. Think again, because you are addressing me as if I woke up to reality 5 minutes ago -- which I haven't, because it's long been with me for the past years.

There is nothing inherently wrong with authoritarianism the sameway there is nothing inherently wrong with majority rule - the issue is more in regards towards the idea of "Law" and the ability to have discipline in respect of Law.

>The problem is not whether the film is fiction of reality. The problem is that there are some people that would like to make such a thing happen, had they the power to.
You act as if this is inclusive totally to Right-wing ideology when in reality it is far more pronounced in the Left.

>tagging multiple people
Get out, autist

Congratulations, you were pissed off by fictitious agitprop

>I acknowledge your post and you're far more coherent than idiots here but Germans made it clear it was a war of externination.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with this actually, but to suggest the USSR and the Democractic Powers had noble intentions is far fetched and ridiculous.

Poland was not only abandoned it was left to be conquered by the Comintern who in turn enacted their own brutalities and occupational government.

In addition, the Democratic Powers (always supported by great finance because it is impossible to have democracy without relying heavily on material wealth) made it impossible to even have a dialogue on the idea's of Nationalism without immedatiely comparing it to the Holocaust.

This is precisely why we are becoming more and more radical because speech is being denied. When you deny speech you inevitably bring violence and polarization.

>Because you have to acknowledge the duality of war. Nobody fights with the idea of being Evil or standing for Darkness. That poster is also from Latvia and if you acknowledge the way in which the USSR mistreated Latvia you would be able to make a reasonable connection.
Do you think I'm not aware on the evils committed by Socialists? I am well aware of that. And the Anglos too (my granpa was jailed by them, and they kept throwing food on the dust and make the POWs eat it -- that's Great Britain for you). This is why I said "fucking Nazis and authoritarians" and not "hurray for the Bolsheviks". Because the latter statement does not belong to my repertory.
I realized it was a propaganda film from the first frames. Nonetheless, the statement it makes on violence is compelling.

>This is because our generation is becoming heavily polarized due to the strength of the Left, international finance, and the way in which these organizations are pushing their globalist agenda onto all aspects of our society. You have to at least admit that globalism and the desecration of the respect of Law is being pushed the whole world over. Look at the blow back from Brexit alone, the voices that are condemning them and it isn't hard to connect the dots.
It's interesting how easily you blame this shit on the left, while in fact the left regards itself as butthurt at best. Basically everywhere I look around I see a market-friendly right wing. So it is not very clear to me why you say: "current generation is turning toward the right because the Left has been vilifying them". Actually, it is the opposite that surprises me: most governments in Europe, even the "leftist" ones, would be considered right-wings by most 20th Century standards.

I am aware America is pretty messed up... and the fact Amerifags switch labels a lot (e.g. now "liberal" means "socialist" and "socialist" means "anarchist", etc.)... but try to widen the scope for a change.

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>aussie
Soviet communists made this movie many decades after the war.
That sure must be realistic.

(cont. from )
>There is nothing inherently wrong with authoritarianism the sameway there is nothing inherently wrong with majority rule - the issue is more in regards towards the idea of "Law" and the ability to have discipline in respect of Law.

This is because you think in merely consequentialist terms.
E.g.
>I say authoritarianism is bad
>You find a counterexample in which the situation worked out well (e.g. a nice and caring king)
But the problem with such kinds of arguments is that whenever authoritarianism has good outcomes, it is not because of authoritarianism itself, but because of other fortunate contingencies (e.g. the authoritarians have nice views).
Rather, systems that are not authoritarians and are based on a balance of power usually incur into issues only when their balance is broken... but as long as it is maintained, they will hardly produce negative outcomes... so the very balance of power is the key for a system that self-propels its own rejection of oppression, etc.

>tagging
What lingo is this? Go back to Kikebook, redditor.

>Nonetheless, the statement it makes on violence is compelling.
But it is empty as it was conducted under arguably one of the most violent regimes in contemporary history. It was targeted directly at the Nazi's in order to justify the Comintern's own brutalities and rationalize their occupation.

Funny enough the Gas Van itself was invented by the NKVD to use on political prisoners, so it was the Soviets who actually were gassing people first.

>It's interesting how easily you blame this shit on the left, while in fact the left regards itself as butthurt at best.

Perhaps in some more recent movements this is true (Brexit, for example), but institutions like the EU are rooted in Leftist ideological concerns. It transcends economics.

>"current generation is turning toward the right because the Left has been vilifying them"

I do not necessarily think this is true, I said that things are becoming more polarized due to the intensive propaganda.

ISIS videos made me angrier.
And some of them are not fictitious.

>I am not necessarily disagreeing with this actually, but to suggest the USSR and the Democractic Powers had noble intentions is far fetched and ridiculous.
But who the fuck claimed that?

>This is because you think in merely consequentialist terms.
Nonsense, I outlined my viewpoint quite clearly, that of Law.

No civilization can exist without this great discipline and it doesn't matter what form of government one decides.

>But who the fuck claimed that?
Because saying "fuck Nazi's" is childish compared with the greater sense of the war which was not fought for anything beyond the increase of globalization and therefore the centralization if international finance.

Stay out of touch, autismotron.

The movie was good regardless its propaganda manners.

And that is fine so long as you recognize the fact it is, in its heart and soul, a work of propaganda designed for a specific purpose.

For example, I enjoy the NSDAP film "Hans Westmar" but if that isn't a work of propaganda then I have no idea what that word means!

>But it is empty as it was conducted under arguably one of the most violent regimes in contemporary history. It was targeted directly at the Nazi's in order to justify the Comintern's own brutalities and rationalize their occupation.
Wait a minute. 1985 Russia is not 1950 Russia. And many Russian intellectuals (although compromised with the regime) managed to make nuanced statements.
In fact, although I believed the film was propaganda, I was surprised to find it set in Bielorussia -- of course it is the most logical setting for 1943... but I still found it surprising that the focus was on a satellite republic of CCCP and not on the greatness of Stalin, or shit like that.

Plus, the choice of commoners is interesting, and the fact none of them was a very professional actor reminded me of the filming of The Seventh Seal -- and the title "Come and see", as I read, is another reference to the Apocalypse (namely, the 4th Seal).

>Perhaps in some more recent movements this is true (Brexit, for example), but institutions like the EU are rooted in Leftist ideological concerns. It transcends economics.
I can see where you come from. But that's a narrow view. It is true for "some" EU institutions. But what about all those leftists who are deeply concerned the EU is just another excuse to make the banks rule over the people? Actually, my idea is that movements such as Brexit have been successful because both right wingers and left wingers (for entirely different reasons) are pissed of with the elites.
Namely,
>Right wing thinks elites are pushing a seemingly left-wing agenda (migrants, melting pot, etc.)
>Left wing thinks elites are pushing a seemingly right-wing agenda (lordship of the banks, economic authority, oligarchy...)
So I guess the discontent is shared.

>I do not necessarily think this is true, I said that things are becoming more polarized due to the intensive propaganda.
Agreed, but see above.

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>Wait a minute. 1985 Russia is not 1950 Russia. And many Russian intellectuals (although compromised with the regime) managed to make nuanced statements.
The director was a Soviet director. Whether or not he was a staunch Communist doesn't matter given the situation and history he was involved with.

>Actually, my idea is that movements such as Brexit have been successful because both right wingers and left wingers (for entirely different reasons) are pissed of with the elites.

This is true to an extent but as we have seen rather clearly the largest opposition towards Brexit comes from those propping up globalist finance and the Left.

It would be foolish to say there were Leftists who did not support Leave but at its roots it was a Nationalist decision as opposed to a Globalist one and the modern Left has become an arm in which Globalism can more easily flex.

>The movie was good regardless its propaganda manners.
It was also a movie on PTSD.
Representing PTSD is the best achievement ever.
Because it manages to show the physical aspects of PTSD (e.g. crossing the muddy swamp) without CGI or some techno bullshit.

>It would be foolish to say there were Leftists who did not support Leave but at its roots it was a Nationalist decision as opposed to a Globalist one and the modern Left has become an arm in which Globalism can more easily flex.
Maybe Brexit was a bad example. I was thinking more of many other Out movements who had a markedly leftist outlook.

M8 no one gives a shit about your virtue signalling you have better luck on Reddit where you get ass blasted with up votes and likes

>Maybe Brexit was a bad example. I was thinking more of many other Out movements who had a markedly leftist outlook.

I think it was a good example. I believe the Greens, a predominantly Leftist group supported Leave although I may be mistaken.

Good, now watch this one you Commie

youtube.com/watch?v=_RQVSHfuPCQ

>all fucking ... authoritarians to kill themselves.
Goodbye, Left!

>alexei kravchenko

>kravchenko

TRIGGERED

Seriously, man... you are free to leave. If you recognize my posts as autism, you have no reason to stay here and keep reminding us of what you think.

Unless, of course... you're autistic too...

But you're just pretending, right? Joke's on us as usual! :^)

National Socialism killed, at most, 20 million people.

Communism killed 100 million people.

Unfortunaly no one will ever make a movie about the Soviet reppression of Polish and Ukrainian anti-communist partisans in the late 40s.

Watched it on Soviet tv when I was 9. I think this film fucked me up.

I used to have that shirt.

In 4th grade.

Also, checked and Kek'd

>MUH FEELS: The Post

Nobody cares, dude. Go vote for Hillary if you want. It will make no difference in the end.

>t. Montenigger