messi when he came to the scene he didnt have a shot at all. let alone freekicks. he has always been a autistic dribbling machine. when maradona came to the scene he had everything already. passer, finisher, dribbler, freekicks and a leader.
show me a freekick goal from messi 18-20 yr old. with maradona you had flair and beauty with messi its autistic running. has messi scored a long range shot? maradona scored once from the halfline at kickoff. sure messi is good and one of the best currently playing. but nowhere near the goat. also playing in a one constantly strong team where maradona went to lift napoli up like cruijjf did with barca. even ronaldo changed scenery and is now statpadding with messi in a 2 team league. messi is a pussy who is afraid of challenge. he even retired from the nt!
this is a truth disclaimer for all you north korean Kim Jong-un fan forum readers. you can try to prove me wrong but it wont happen sorry.
ty argentina. i felt like truth needs to be told to these lads cumming on their tsuu and messi sheets
Camden Carter
bump
Joshua Perez
Based Maradona took a team of scrubs to a world cup win and a bottom half napoli to a league title
Messi inherited an amazing team with world cup winners and lost out to a madrid that just started a rebuilding period. Not to mention losing 3 straight finals in which he didn't do anything except miss a penalty
Brody Edwards
it is unfair to compare Maradona with Messi
Elijah Lee
didn't read lmao
Noah Lee
Most overrated player ever. Messi shits all over this guy.
Ian Thomas
messi gets shit on by antonella lol
Isaac Ross
MANDATORY VIDEO OF A LITTLE DIEGUITO TELLING HIS DREAM:
'TO WIN THE WORLD CUP'
DIEGO IS THE BEST !!
Angel Gutierrez
That's hot desu
Joseph Ross
cleveland steamer is a good fetish
Jacob Campbell
Especially when a trollfaced amerindian does it.
Nolan Campbell
lel. garricha > pele
Logan Barnes
Lol no. But who cares. Both of them are great and successful anyway.
Jackson Myers
Why didn't the Brazil government allow their players to go to European teams? There was a similar period in communist Poland where players like Deyna were courted by teams such as Milan and Madrid but they weren't allowed to go
Jason Torres
the brazilian league was better anyway, just watch pelé's santos playing against european teams and you'll see
The government didn't prohibit players from transferring. You can search for many players from that era who played outside. Didi, Amarildo, Jair da Costa and many others. Jair da Costa for example was Garrincha's reserve in 1962 World Cup, even though he didn't played a minute there (because there wasn't substitutions). He used to play for Portuguesa (a traditional but small team) before he left straight to Internazionale. In Italy he played 260b games for the most successful Internazionale team ever (the Grande Inter - 4 Serie A, 2 European Cups, 2 International Cups), even scoring the winner in the 1965 final against Eusébio's Benfica.
What I wanted to say here is that a national team "benchwarmer" player was so good that he could leave from a small team to a (yet to be) great one without any trouble.
Players like Pelé and Garrincha didn't wanted to leave for many reasons, but the main one was that they didn't needed to, because Santos and Botafogo were stacked as fuck and .
literally the best goal scored in football and in world cup
Sebastian Diaz
Excellent thread
Luis Nelson
morning save bump
Leo Price
>league game vs getafe literally wrong
Christopher Cruz
still useless game compared to wc deciders..
Anthony Jones
some things people miss when comparing old football players with modern players
-modern physical preparation allows players to run more and coaches to employ more attacking styles, developed by sacchi and guardiola. In the past teams attacked with only a few players, not with the whole team
-referees punish physical contact more. Defense is better tactically, but in the past defenders were more likely to mow you down, and it wouldn't be a foul, while now it may be yellow or a red card
-the ball is lighter and more aerodynamic. This allows better control, easier passing and shooting and favors the attackers over the goalkeeper. Look at how many blooters are scored every matchday.
Noah Sanchez
>-referees punish physical contact more. Defense is better tactically, but in the past defenders were more likely to mow you down, and it wouldn't be a foul, while now it may be yellow or a red card
yeah this i forgot from op too. maradona was kicked and fouled so much and he never complained n always got up. GOAT
Mason Butler
Argentina stopped winning titles after Maradona left the NT, enough said
Jaxson Lee
there are pros and cons to which era of football, that's why it only makes sense to compare players to other players of their era.
the reason pelé is the greatest is that he was so much better than everyone else of his time that there wasnt even any competition at the time. the difference between pelé and everyone else is absurdly higher than the difference between maradona or messi and everyone else.
Ryder Allen
>-the ball is lighter and more aerodynamic. This allows better control, easier passing and shooting and favors the attackers over the goalkeeper. Look at how many blooters are scored every matchday.
this is a very important factor to consider. the ball was heavy back then, real heavy. it was made of leather, and you can feel the heaviness in old football videos. imagine playing with a ball like that in the rain, for example. dribbling was way harder, kicking required strenght, etc.
Isaac Johnson
when he scored that GOAT goal against england the other players said they could barely take three touches let alone dribble because the pitch was so shit. maradona also had none of the protection that messhit gets from refs. he would be kicked to pieces every game and never dive.
