Why are liberals obsessed with the idea of communism?

Why are liberals obsessed with the idea of communism?

They are lazy and want to reap the benefits of someone else

they aren't liberals if they are into communism

They want to fix the world.

When really they want to fix themselves.

The idea of being a working class member fascinates them to the point of obsession. Which is why they are usually unemployed. They just want a job, it's understandable. Children grab at what they want

because I can be openly Communist and be praised.

vecauuse they are deluded or they think they will be at the top of the pyrimad anyway. never trust an atheist

antifa faggot, please stop posting

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So nice that they're numbering themselves now, making the job easier

They haven't worked a day in their lives and are jealous of the successful, so they believe themselves to be the "oppressed working class" and that communism will help them, even though both they and their ideology are the most dangerous to the real workers.

I'm not an Antifa. I support them tho, I always go to their BBQ parties

>All that pure ideology
Please read Zizek.
Just do it.
And read about Makhno and Homage to Catalonia while we are at it.

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Communist is far from being liberal.

Communists and anarchists are normalfags that need to fuck off.

There are nothing more antiliberal than communism though.

>never trust an atheist

C-cmon... I'm not a commie I swear. I see Christianity as part of my heritage and my ethnic culture even though I dont believe there's a god or heaven & hell. I would be willing to send my future kids to a christian private school.

>hanging out with the scum of the earth

Oh brother...

It's only Americans that think like this. since the meaning of "liberal" is distorted there.

Commissar Nekbeard of the peoples democratic anime army

Most of them are Bro tier.

>progressive stack

>oppose and hate every form of hierarchy
>implement a hierarchy of your own

What did leftists mean by this?

well liberals are obsessed with it anyways whether you like it or not

>Free market capitalism =/= corporatism.
>Based on what communism has ever managed to achieve

Dat cognitive bias fallaciousness.
Remember vote fer trump! Fuck reality!

/s

If they're communists they are inherently not liberal. It's not possible to be both at once.

I know that most of you are babies but holy shit you might have heard SOMETHING about the century we just spent of pitting liberalism against communism.

Military Keynesianism via the largest transfer of wealth in human history? The advent of the era of M.A.D.? Nuclear sword of damocles hovering over the planet threatening to abjectly shatter human civilization within hours? The entire developed world carved up into proxies?

It's a bit of a thing. You should look into it.

Try looking this up "basic 20'th century history"

I dont think you know what "bro-tier" means if you use that term to describe Antifa.

Millennials are too stupid to realize that bro..

wow rude.

This.

They don't want to really go to school, get specialized, work and climb the ladder of success. They would literally rather just pull weeds for 4 hours a day and earn a meager living with state provided housing (but NICE housing, in a rural areas somewhere, and, though they would never admit it, away from black people).

They haven't done the research to see that communism never works because, again, lazy.

He means American liberals. The Democrats here stole that word. They basically are talking about socialism/communism with a total breakdown of traditional morals but they call it "liberalism" and the name stuck.

Some conservative radio guy started calling them "statists", as in people who are in favor of more power to the state. It's more accurate but is not very catchy.

>If they're communists they are inherently not liberal. It's not possible to be both at once.

I don't disagree with your sentiment but it is very possible to be a liberal communist, or a conservative communist. I see communism more as an economic and political system than social and cultural values, although they do play a part in the advertising of the ideology

Same reason people here are obsessed with nat socialism.

Because they feel like the baby boomers fucked us all over

If you're obsessed about communism and know anything about it, you'd know that it does not fit well in any form or way with liberalism.

i think you mean gas chamber tier, your english could use some work.

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Well user, go ahead and disagree with some of their general consensus and report back.

In austria these fuckwits are already following people home to smash their windows. They'll also post your address with some smug undertone online.
Go and check out #faschoseinheißtproblemekriegen (of course no one they target is really fascist, since they don't even know what that means)

They are the worst scum in the country and honestly I'm just waiting for the day where they break into the wrong home.

I can only imagine the media crocodile tears when one of them goes to hospital with a bullet in his ass.

they believe communism is about forcing rich people to share their wealth, and breaking down any and all class systems, with a goal of complete equality across the line. any liberal would love that. liberals are idealists, they don't care much for the practical side of things and how things are done to obtain goals.

Dumb

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The initial appeal of liberalism is freedom. But freedom allows people to make bad choices. Communism allows public financing of bad personal choices.

Most liberals are not into communism. Only highschoolers are.

Most american liberals just want to be similar to europe, with only important sections more controlled, like healthcare, food, and education. I would overall agree with this. I am all for free markets, but you can't create a real market with inelastic goods that people need to live. It's not a surprise that most of the subsidy, corruption, and economic problems in the US are based on those three sectors.

They also just want to end bigotry. Why most of them fall into the SJW trap, the whole concept of racism isn't based in science and will not actually solve any problems in the world.

Speaking in general terms, they have empathy for their fellow man and want to see everyone either on equal footing or treated as an equal.

It's not actually complicated.

>thinks conservatism and liberalism are diametrically opposed

Conservatism within the western context is literally a method through which to implement liberalism (more specifically, conservatism is the creation and implementation of policies constructed within contexts established by past successes).

Stop learning about the world through marketers. They do not want to teach you anything, and they are not your friends.

how many cuck.jpg's are on an average swedish PC my friend?

Because they're misogynists who hate Ayn Rand for being a woman.

They see it (especially branches like Maoism and third worldism) as being an edgier, harder and more 'practical' version of their liberal beliefs whereby they can cast off being a Westerner in favour of an exotic edge, or they see some of the inconsistencies within liberalism itself (like every liberal politician of note being a depraved butcher) and think communism is a better option. Idiotic trannies from wealthy families on twitter who think Mao and Shit Guevara would've used them for anything other than being fertiliser can always be found.

The problem with that is the world is always changing. There is always new technology or changes in society that require some form of regulation. Self driving cars, drones for recreation, credit default swaps... we need to be able to ensure a safe and stable society in the midst of change.

Always ignore people that say "the past was better, we should go back to that" because they are always wrong. The present is far better than the past.

The funny part about this faggot with the camo pants on is what the fuck would this nu-male do if an armed commie resistance actually arose? He would be the cum dumpster for all the actual fighting men.

except white males

>hospital with a bullet in the ass
>not the morgue with one through the head

Cmon now Austria, dream big and learn how to shoot.

Liberals are idealists, ergo egalitarism is an attractive 'ideal'.

Because they're too incompetent to reach the same level of success as others, so they want everyone dragged down to the same level. Basically but without the faux-righteous glazing.

It's hilarious because most are limp-wristed middle class tumblr fags who think they'll be in the top echelons of the party when the revolution comes.

In reality, they'd just be sent to the fields and factories like the rest of us or lined up and shot.

DUDE FREE SHIT

>listen and believe

kek

When we say "liberal" we don't mean in the classical liberal sense.

>confusing globalization's "liberalism" with the US Democrat's political "liberals"

common mistake, newfriend.

Funny how everybody involved in setting up the liberal world order ended up being Soviet spies.

See, this is the sort of stuff as a white poor man that just makes me tune out.

When you are a child you have everything provided for you. Food, clothing, a home, care etc.

When you get older you realise that these are things you provide for yourself through work and planning.

Somewhere along the way, these people have not been introduced to this concept and believe that communism will be the providing hand for everybody.

They haven't grown up.

>It's literally impossible to make mistakes

You realize that's what "the present is always better than the past" means, right?

>american newspeak is so mangled they say liberals are interested in communism

Because everybody else is suppose to only think like them and if you don't they would probably hang you

Making mistakes doesn't mean we should go back 100 years. It means we correct the mistakes.

Sonotori-des

I see it more as a refusal to grow up.
Sure, the lack of opportunities also plays an integral part in the desire to be taken care of, but primarily I think it's that "Being adult is hard. I don't want to do it."

I think this is what happens when both parents spend all day working and the kids spend all day either playing or in school.
When they reach adulthood, they are expected to make a drastic change in lifestyle.
They never cooked their own food, they never washed their own clothes, they never paid their own bills, they never did their taxes.

Now they are faced with all the responsibility of adulthood without being used let alone knowing how to actually do all the stuff that adults need to do.

>The present is far better than the past.

I don't even know why American liberals don't just straight up wave the red flag. I mean, they're free to do so, the 1st amendment protects it.

Rightwingers like to roleplay as crusaders fighting back against barbarian hordes, leftists like to roleplay as antifa guerillas fighting an oppressive fascist authority..

Come to this thread if you want to join the real discussion about whats going to happen next!

They see inequality in the world and want to correct it, in a kind of autistic desire for order as well as a sense of real moral caring for other people.

They don't realize this requires a massive suppression of nature to achieve. Imagine if you decided that animals eating eachother was unfair so you decided to go out into nature and start policing it.

I used to think when I was a standard liberal that Conservatives thought humans were exceptional (due to religious delusion) and liberals thought humans were just animals and had the correct scientific mindset. But the opposite is true. Religion and other conservative ideas incorporate the limitations of humanity even if they turn it into simplistic dogma, but it's designed to work with humans as they are. Leftists and the further left you go, the worse this gets, expect humans to act like gods, blank slates, etc. They have a magical conception of human nature and what it's possible of.

This.

Because they're below average and they're just smart enough to realize that in a world where they can be carried by hard workers, they would be better off than in any other system.

Yep.

True.

>Imagine if you decided that animals eating eachother was unfair so you decided to go out into nature and start policing it.
Funnily enough, I actually saw someone suggesting this a couple months ago. They wanted humans to go out and round up predators en masse and find a way to convert them to vegetarianism. Even on a pretty far left forum, everybody else was still mocking and deriding his delusional ideal of destroying the food chain.

They are simply against everything of the west

Communism is really a nice theory. In theory, it's perfect and it solves most economic and social issues if the world were communist.
>communism hasn't been tried
Karl Marx's theories were enforced to the letter for the beginning of the soviet union. For just a shit ton of reasons, it wasn't sustainable. So starting with the NEP, lenin had drifted from real theoretical communism to keep his state afloat

They realize they've reached the point of no return. Their life is a failure and the only way to start winning is to band up with all the other losers and attack the successful.

That's a big cuckshed

Fpbp

Except, in practice, you don't get Persians choice to make those bad choices.

because they are stupid fucks that opted to study shit courses like liberal arts in college. they then realised that no employment opportunities await their lazy asses and instead of accept responsibility, blame the system for their poor choice of education and think the rest of the world owes it to them. How many communists have something of value to be shared up in a communist society?

Most of them don't really care about politics or economics so they just think "oh sharing is caring. I guess I'm a commie and not a selfish capitalist" without thinking/caring about incentives, ramifications, and how economics works. Most will renounce their communism once they learn a thing or two and work in the real world.

Legit commies on the other hand who believe in "post scarcity" can only be gassed.

you can bet your left nut if they owned anything of value, the 'sharing is caring' narrative would go out the window

When you live a sheltered life on someone else's money,
you may see communism as a way to continue such a life.

o yeah, the thing that i find strange is that in a communist society, they would be jailed. They have nothing to offer society, the only thing they can probably offer is hard labour. Which we know their soft arses are incapable of performing or unwilling to. Being unwilling to support the cause would land you in jail.

Somebody post that pic which differentiates socialism from modern day liberalism and far right ideologies. "Communists" are just obsessed with identity politics without realizing the economic significance.