Asian/White Unity: College Admissions Addition Rd 2

Asian/White Unity: College Admissions Addition

Why don’t Asian Americans vote for Republicans? Asian SJWs are almost as bad as white SJWs in that they consistently argue against the interests of their own demographic group. The Supreme Court just upheld the University of Texas’ biased admissions that mainly favor black and hispanic students over better qualified non-hispanic white and asian students. Is California next? With its huge hispanic population, California could overturn Proposition 209, and the UC’s could start discriminating against asians and non-hispanic whites.

Do asians really think that UC admissions would continue being merit based? They would immediately shift to look more like Harvard’s admissions than Caltech’s. As you can see by the chart, asians only make up 16% of Harvard’s classes, when they probably should make up 35-40%. Also, this chart debunks a myth about admissions: asians aren’t discriminated against because of whites in general, they are discriminated in favor of specifically Jewish whites. Non-jewish whites are actually the most discriminated against in Ivy league admissions. There is no reason for asians to feel like whites in-general get it easier than they do: only jewish whites get it easier.

This is not meant to be anti-semitic. These are important numbers: if you are jewish, you are given an admissions break in Ivy league admissions similar to being black or hispanic. Caltech is the only school that only uses objective metrics (grades, test scores, etc.) in admissions. Jewish students make up 6% of the student body. Schools that use holistic criteria like UC Berkeley and Stanford admit 10% Jewish students. The Ivy league more than doubles these numbers.

Non-jewish, non-hispanic whites and asians should be natural allies on affirmative action. Both groups are hurt for the benefit of other groups, including very privileged groups (jews).

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theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/
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Finally, I would like to note that being overtly anti-semitic only hurts spreading these hit-you-in-the-head numbers. Jewish students benefit as much or more than disadvantaged minorities in affirmative action. When you subtract Jewish students from the white total, the remaining whites are the most underrepresented group in the Ivy league.

This data was taken from Ron Unz’s excellent article on the subject, which is available here: theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/ . I actually did not use many of his arguments as to illustrate the undeniable fact that asians and non-jewish, non-hispanic whites are being extremely discriminated against one only needs to compare the admissions data from schools like Caltech and Stanford to schools like Yale and Harvard.

Asians are the most economically well off demographic (unless you split jewish whites off, then they are). They get fucked by affirmative action more than any group save non-hispanic, non-jewish whites. Their SJWs are as bad as white SJWs. The "oppressive asian man" slander is common in the community. Their low-tier legal immigrants compete with illegal hispanics for jobs. Their kids get fucked over in college admissions in favor blacks, hispanics, and jews. Even after graduating from a great school, many asian men get passed over for diversity hires (asian men are not considered diverse by SJWs). Asian immigrants are disproportionately small business owners who get fucked over by taxes and regulations. Why are asians, particularly asian men, voting against their interests? It seems like the community is literally listening to the asian SJWs who are overtly against their best interests, particularly the interests of asian men. Vote for Trump!

Where are all the asian men at? Let's come together for a common goal. SJWs and feminist attack you, take jobs that are rightfully yours, and lie to you about who is doing it. The data is clear: non-hispanic, non-jewish whites aren't taking any spots at Harvard from your people. We have common enemies. Let's be friends!

>Jews are the largest group in most Ivy-league schools.
Maybe Sup Forums does have a point.

It is strange that one of the most privileged ethnic groups by income, IQ, and education benefits from affirmative action in the same way that blacks and hispanics do. Again, schools with color blind or nearly color blind admissions end up with 10% or less Jews. The Ivy League averages about 25%.

This is important because since Jews are benefiting from affirmative action, you must subtract them out from the overall white numbers. When you do, the remaining whites are the most discriminated against in college admissions.

Asians are force fed lies from their SJWs that they get fucked by everyone in college admissions. This leads to a lot of anti-white resentment with asian men. The truth is that non-hispanic, non-white men take no spots from asian men--they even have it harder. So, everyone should be friends! The two groups getting completely screwed by these affirmative action politics need to band together.

If Trump got most of the Asian vote in California, he would seriously win the state.

>unknown race

I wonder what they look like? Do they have polka-dot green skin? Or are they like those Grey/white haired grey eyed barbarians the Romans used to talk about in the days of the Republic?

They are just real smart, it's not nepotism or anything like that

It is assumed that they are all or mostly all Asian and non-hispanic, non-Jewish Whites because those are the two main groups that get hurt by affirmative action. Blacks, hispanics, and Jews all get preferential treatment (lower test scores, lower grades, higher admissions rates). Even if a large portion of Jews did not report their race as White, which wouldn't make sense but it is possible, the numbers still show that Jew overwhelmingly benefit from Affirmative Action. Even taking into account that they are slightly smarter on average, their rate of matriculation at Harvard is inflated by about 8-10x. Yes eight to ten times how many one would expect given how smart they are.

Clearly you're not since you did not read OP's post. Unless this is bait of course.

>Again, schools with color blind or nearly color blind admissions end up with 10% or less Jews.

Nevermind your post was sarcastic. I'm an idiot.

Wait, I misspoke on the eight to ten times... That is given their proportion of the population.

Anyways, even taking into account that Jews have higher IQs and thus are more likely to be high achieving students, their disproportionate rate of matriculation in the Ivy league is widely disproportionate. Base just on test scores, it should be 6% (still 3x their population) like Cal Tech has. Schools like UC Berkeley and Stanford with holistic admissions have about 10%. The Ivy League is widely off of these number, coming in at 25%. This means that literally the most discriminated applicant at Harvard is a white male farmer from like Ohio. Asian men are second. Asian men need to wake up and realize that voting for Trump is in their best interest and they get lied to by SJWs to promote resentment that shouldn't exist.

I'm not that familiar with affirmative action as it is more of an American concept. Really surprised to hear Jews are benefiting from it. Can you give me some sources on Jewish affirmative action I'm having trouble finding any.

>theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/
I only gave one of his arguments, but it is an undeniable one. Jews are smart, but not nearly smart enough to justify their disproportionate admissions rates in the Ivy League. Cal Tech is the only major US university that only uses objective criteria and Jews are 6% of the student body (they are 2.5% of pop). Jews make up almost 25% of the Ivy League. That difference can only be accounted for by crazy, undeniable, and irrationally high quotas for Jewish students. All admissions data is from Jewish organizations that track these things. I am not being anti-semitic. I am just stating facts to show how asians and non-hispanic, non-jewish whites are fucked when it comes to admissions to the Ivy League, which should make them natural allies.

It wouldn't even be called affirmation action in regards to jews. That phrase is reserved for increasing diversity by admitting lesser minority candidates. Jews use nepotism which is different entirely.

Look up jews being excluded from ivy leagues to get some historical context

>Asian SJWs

They're presumably the same type of people as the white SJW. Weak minded, no sense of loyalty, hypertrophied maternal instinct, reflexive denial of the concept of self interest.

Whites and asian are starting to develop the same set of problems.

I also think Jews and Whites should be ally. I never understood this notion of undermining whites as a way to protect the jews. Assuming this is true, the solution ought to be to protect them outright instead of giving them reason to undermine us. (That is, of course, assuming that there's some jewish conspiracy to destroy white nations, which I don't believe in.)

Alright, so what you're saying is they're getting in through nepotism and backroom deals but not a stated policy like AA?

Also, Jews being better at verbal IQ than math IQ cannot explain this 6% merit to 25% Ivy League jump in matriculation. Both Stanford and UC Berkeley are arguable two of the most well rounded schools in the entire world, and they both only end up with about a 10% Jewish student body.

AA doesn't need to be stated. Something affirmative is taking place in the Ivy League to produce such widely disparate numbers for Jewish students. I don't know how exactly they are doing it, but they are obviously doing it, and it is just as much Affirmative Action as having a disproportionate number of black people given black people's academic profile. The academic profile of Jewish students, as shown by Unz, predicts that they would make up about 6% of elite students. His estimates could be off by a percent or two, his methodology isn't perfect, but it is literally impossible to get the 25% Jews like the Ivy League has when you look at merit. Jews are undeniably getting affirmative action, just like black people.

Jews should ally with whites for their own interests, however jews really only know how to undermine and subvert. They're convinced if they don't dilute the white population they'll be shoah'd. However this just does the opposite. Some know this, so they invent white guilt to keep them unaware, and by the time whites figure it out, they'll be a minority and the jew wins.

They attack whites as a group and asian men. Asian men aren't considered diverse by SJWs. Seriously. They also promote the notion that asian men are being oppressed by white men, but that isn't the case in Ivy League admissions.

>however jews really only know how to undermine and subvert

Yeah that's the kind of antisemitism that I reject; the notion that jews have a "nature" which compels them to act a certain way.

At most I'll buy that, historically, they participated in many types of what could be considered "subversive" movement, but I would explain these things from a sociological perspective or from a group adaptability perspective (a la MacDonald).

Don't ascribe inherent qualities to them, even if you end up noticing just how over represented they were in the communist movement. The explanation is probably socio-historical.

Right. You notice the same kind of response on the part of asian and (fucking) white males. Asian end up creating "asian masculinity", which is explicitly ethno-centric, while whites created the whole pick up artistery sub-culture and its assorted cousin movements (MGTOW, MRAs) which, while not openly ethno centric, de facto are.

The overlap in attitude between the two is rather great.

Yes, this thread isn't about anti-Semitism, it is about the natural allies that asians and non-jewish, non-hispanic whites should be since they are the two groups completely fucked by the Ivy League's admissions.

No where have I said there is a nefarious Jewish plot. However, they clearly are getting sometime of affirmative action treatment by the Ivy League, and it completely distorts. the admissions data for whites, which makes asians wrong thinking whites as a whole fuck them over in admissions. Hispanic and Jewish whites fuck asians over in elite college admissions. Non-hispanic, non-jewish whites are even more fucked than their asian brothers.

The "asian masculinity" movement has a lot of truth to it, but white guys aren't as much enemies as they believe. They have been tricked by their own SJWs into thinking white guys are holding them down in every possible way.

The truth is that their are a lot of negative stereotypes about asian men we all, everyone, should stop promoting. Asian guys don't have tiny dicks, just like black guys don't have comically large dicks. Plenty of asian guys are good looking. There are good asian male actors (see Marco Polo). There is more.

There shouldn't be tension between whites and asians. We all can do better. This is just a part of that. We would all benefit from electing Trump. Affirmative Action is only going to increase until we get a few more Supreme Court rulings against it.

Lol non jewish white? Heil Hitler dude. Imagine if Hitler didnt kill so many wed have hundreds of millions more jews today

Thank you Hitler

Nice thread OP. I go to Brown where I would say a quarter of the students are kikes. I absolutely hate them. They lead all the SJW efforts against white people while acting as if they are disadvantaged themselves. I never truly took pol seriously until I came here.

Affirmative action is gonna end up stopping because the social justice agenda is moving from the periphery to the center, which is forcing the issue against the interests and philosophical outlook of individuals who could afford to make concession to it when it was marginal but can't now that it threatens to take over the whole of academia. (See : Jonathan Haidt, Gad Saad, Jerry Coyne, Sam Harris. (((Incidentally))), they're all jewish.)

Haidt is literally preparing a kind of insurrection against the illeberal (in the classical sense) stranglehold that the left has over academia.

Asians try and fit in to America's overarching culture and that means embracing niggerdom, so they vote Democrat

This thread isn't about anti-semitism and doesn't support it. It is clearing up a misconception.

It isn't anti-Semitic to point out that by academic metrics Jewish students should make up about 6% of a school like Brown. That is is what you find when you look at Cal Tech. Even when looking at schools with more holistic criteria, like Stanford, you find a 10% Jewish student body. In the Ivy League and at other elite East Coast private schools, one finds a nearly 25% Jewish student body. That is impossible without Affirmative Action.

I do not recommend anti-Semitism. It isn't anti-semitic to point out that it is disingenuous for jews to pretend to not benefit from AA. It is also bizarre they do. They are literally the most well off demographic in America.

Unz, the man who wrote the article linked in the OP, is also Jewish. This isn't an anti-Jew thing. It is a pro merit post. Asians and non-jewish, non-hispanic whites are held to an absurdly higher standard in Ivy League admissions than all other groups. I recommend reading Unz's article in full. His recommendation likely couldn't be fully implemented, but it could be partially. Regardless, it is absurd that the most well off demographic in America benefits from AA in the same way that blacks and hispanics do.

My friend, any accusation or criticism you make of them will be considered anti-semitic. Plus over here I have anonymity so I can say what I want. In public though I would be more careful about what I say, but merely pointing out jewish over representation will get me called a Nazi. If you're trying to avoid being called an anti-semite you'll lose. Embrace it and don't let it bother you.

Facts aren't bigoted. Jewish overrepresentation in the Ivy League is just a fact. More people will actually look at the data, which is undeniable, if words like kike aren't used. To affect change you need to spread your message. I am sure many people would be surprised to learn that jewish benefit from affirmative action in that same way that blacks do. I certainly was.

That's bs. We're not gonna lie and misrepresent our position because we're getting smeared by an opposing party.

When people call me an Islamophobe I pretty much agree because it's true in every sense of the word, but if somebody called me an antisemite I'd just say no and move on. Just because we can see some (((coincidence))) doesn't mean we ascribe them to the "Jewish spirit".

Asian Nazi here... but a rarity, I'm sure. I do what I can, my dad is a Nazi too.

We were on the same side in WW2. USA sided with Jews instead of America.

Yeah I agree with you, but saying that alone is enough to get you called an anti-semite. All I'm saying is that if you're looking to avoid being called an anti-semite you might as well just keep your mouth shut and not say anything.

>We're not gonna lie and misrepresent our position because we're getting smeared by an opposing party

When did I say this?

>Just because we can see some (((coincidence))) doesn't mean we ascribe them to the "Jewish spirit".

Why not? These (((coicidences))) are extremely common.

Just say that rich whites (not whites in general, have poor white valedictorians be speakers on this issue) are over-represented in Ivy League schools. If education is to be open and accessible for all (one of socialism's tenets) then there should be equal representation among all income groups. Heavy inference that Jews are a large part of this population. Attack the problem through another layer to obscure intention to correct problem. Besides what better way to destroy liberal academia than directing their machinations at themselves?

>If education is to be open and accessible for all (one of socialism's tenets) then there should be equal representation among all income groups.

There is no reason any of us should support spreading that absurd and dangerous lie. Telling people that the reason that engineers have smart kids is do to the lies of capitalism, and not genetics and good parenting, is not the way to go.

The best way to start is to say that all whites (hispanic and jewish included) should be held to the same standards as asians. Then, once hispanic and jewish whites no longer benefit from AA, we can all focus on minimizing it in other areas. It is important to have a society based on merit. That is the goal. The more merit pays off, the better society is in the long run.

Fucking stupid. The carrot doesn't work in society anymore because carrots are too easy to come by and there is no penalty for taking someone else's carrot. It's time to resort to the stick. Btw the best course of action is let the whole system tear itself apart so as to teach people the important lessons we continually neglect to learn from our ancestors. Only now given the over-abundance of technology and documentation will we be able to record such failings as history for future generations to learn from. The only problem is that TOO much information (most of it trivial celebrity, media and gossip bullshit) is generated these days and as such integral data has a good chance to be buried. When the next time civilization falls it will likely be the last time. Humans will be around but we won't forget about our mistakes anymore. It's best if we accelerate the fall so that we can at least control the outcome a bit rather than taking a passive backseat and letting our enemies rule the future.

No. Treating asians and whites (all whites) equally is the best first step. Trump would win California if he did better with Asians. Seriously.

Is there stopping people from just checking off Native American or Black during the admissions process when applying for universities? Unless you're applying for an Ivy, the majority of schools won't bother to perform an in-person interview anyway.

Not possible unless you wrote don't you were that ethnicity in high school. Something wouldn't match up and they'll just reject your application based upon that discrepancy (lying or falsehood). And being that ethnicity in high school is dependent on how your parents fill out your paperwork when you first enrolled in your school district when you were in kindergarten or first grade. Home school kids would be able to get away with it maybe, but the black exclusive organizations on campus will find out about you and complain to the college administration.

Because Asian Americans understand that Whites are a lost cause, therefore they chose to side with the SJWs to pick up the pieces after the great downfall.

Political Correctness kills constructive discussions way too often. SJWs are always a risk.

read "Culture of Critique" of K. Mac Donald

Asians: Vote for Trump!

asians are like 5% of the population in USA, their vote is unimportant

The fact that they vote overwhelmingly democratic does not make sense given their demographics. See hereAlso, the actually could swing California if they voted for Republicans as much as they "should" given their economic and academic interests.

It is actually a mystery why they overwhelmingly switched to the democrats. People just widely guess. There should be research done. They are an important demographic.

Also, despite being only 5% of the US, asian children represent like 35% of the academic high achievers in the country (by standard metrics). They are important because they add to the economy and our knowledge base disproportionately.