Mayans were long gone when Europeans came. The ones Europeans fucked were Aztecs.
Nobody really knows what made Mayan civilization fall. It's a historical and archaeological mystery. One day they ruled supreme and the next they were just gone.
Christopher Harris
I didn't blame the conquistadores. I mean they are reduced to a tourist attraction. Perhaps I didn't use the correct words.
Regarding to the aztecs is basically the same. I don't remember if it's Evola or Spengler but one of them said that the aztecs and incas were a living cadavre, devoid of spirit (ie already dead before the spaniards came) and that helped their submission.
Jose Watson
>Be Mayan soldier >coming home to my nice thatched hut, generously built by the high shamans as a show of camaraderie between the temple and the militia >see wife >beautiful woman, a teacher who is given great benefits by the high council for her work in raising the children >see daughter and sons >they play in the forests, learning basic survival skills as the great Pakal did >settle down in my cozy lounge hammock, sipping cacao >wonder about the tributes, caught as POW's of the nearby tribes >They're treated with respect, as their deaths will sustain the fabric of the universe just a bit longer >the wife sings to lull me to sleep as I watch the sun set over beautiful Chichen Itza >twenty years later we die of a plague >All that's left is one sweet, small girl, the final Mayan princess
RIP sweet kings. Your civilization was truly one to admire.
Joshua Ortiz
>Culture reduced to a girl who's actually a tourist attraction
what? most people in Yucatan speak mayan. i dont get it OP
Wyatt Stewart
they went to space not even joking same with olmecs aztecs were about to discover the hyperdrive and antigraviti equations but got destroyed and the spanish burned all of the codices they found because muh heresy , they knowledge of science, medicine and biology , everything burned.
Nathaniel Morales
Wtf. Yucatan and Guatemala are full of Mayans. Shit lad my friend from Guate has a grandma that can speak one of the Mayan dialects.
Jose Robinson
NOSOTROS
Grayson Miller
I meant the 'image'. Not that they are reduced to only that girl.
A empire reduced to a group of poor people who are probably also discriminated and became a mere encyclopedia data.
Jose Sullivan
The civilization was gone. Cities deserted for no obvious reason what so ever. People apparently just got tired of city life and moved back to the jungle.
Nathaniel Campbell
They were about to go to space but then people with flint lock rifles fucked their shit up t b h they are incompetent if they didn't have any weapons to defend themselves. And if they really had this they would have had weapons. Furthermore the technology would have been shared. This picture looks like something a teenage girl would draw because it looks cool instead of actually painting.
Connor Garcia
You can blame the Spanish, they did awful things in South America, they basically genocided an entire race of people for gold and silver, and turned them all into slaves
But they got away with it No anti-Spanish or Hispanic backlash from other races for it
Makes me question the anti-white sentiment to be honest
Logan Phillips
its real m8 it's actually a carving in palenque from a mayan ruler
Christopher Baker
>tfw you will never be a conquistador being welcomed by Mayan cuties and killing Aztec cucks
Zachary Jackson
>go to space >leave all the other natives to die at the hands of conquistadors
Checks out, m8.
Isaac Murphy
The Oxford Academy is older than the Mayans, take that as you will
Thomas Moore
All that mural means is that the ruler was born of gods.
Austin Richardson
WE
Jayden Peterson
It looks like shit and no native Americans of North or South have ever made a space ship. Since you made the claim that they had interstellar travel you have to prove it.
Christian Nguyen
What the fuck are you on, OP?
Mayans are still around and they even have more rights than your usual Mexican, fuck those leechers
Ethan Baker
rude 2bh gods=aliens
Zachary Gutierrez
>Honduran savages were once Mayans I find that hard to believe.
I'm guessing they don't have google in paragay, surely you people can't be this retarded.
Nolan Myers
ya snooze ya lose
Jackson Hill
>rude 2bh
I think lying to people is more rude you piece of shit. Literally absolutely positively no one is going to believe you. More people believe the world is an inverted sphere with the sun in the center than they believe that your picture had anything to do with interstellar travel. I would love to believe that these small brown people I see from time to time who appear more native than Spanish were really super geniuses but it simply is not true.
Grayson Brooks
>We wuz
Landon Turner
nope mayans fled the south and came to bigger settlement in guatemala, belize and mexico what's left in central america are just other tribes with almost no mayans left
Zachary Nguyen
FUIMOS
Charles Taylor
Actually that was a really good plan. these fuckers now made strange celebrations while waiting get free internet.
Lol I'm mestizo and we inherited the world of the white man. we're better off now instead of building pyramids and cutting each other's hearts out
Ayden Diaz
there's not much hate for the Spanish because most Latin Americans have mixed Native and Spanish blood. When white people fully race mix there will be less hate for us too :)
Easton Rodriguez
They aren't being discriminated, we gave them entire states
Not only Mayans but everything is reduced to a mere encyclopedia article these days
Stop injecting marijuana
Grayson Bailey
>cutting each other's hearts out this was a meme invented by the spanish to legitimize their genocide on the natives
Ethan Morris
>LA RAZA COSMICA VATO
80 IQ indians never went to space, Paco.
Ryder Richardson
>Mexico WE
Jose Perry
Mayans dissapear for unknown reasons years before the arrive of spanish conquerors, maybe she isn't mayan at all, maybe she's descent from one of many periferic tribes around the empire
Nolan Hernandez
>we're better off now instead of building pyramids and cutting each other's hearts out except now you're building criminal empires and cutting people's heads off
Leo Allen
The Aztecs did indeed do that shit m8.
One of the reasons why it was so easy for Cortez to unite so many people against them was due to all the insane shit they did.
Caleb Bailey
>They aren't being discriminated, we gave them entire states So they are the jews of pre columbine america?
>Not only Mayans but everything is reduced to a mere encyclopedia article these days Indeed, and that's a sad thing. I didn't intend the thread to be a mayan discussion desu, but about how everything is going to shit.
Samuel Lee
except there's proof that they performed human sacrifice. also spain didn't genocide shit. it was an accident
Kayden Miller
Mayan civilization fell due to a massive drought
Why are people making so much shit up, I don't get it
Justin Powell
WE WUZ ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS
couldn't engineer a loo to poo in but could go to space :^)
Ian White
>couldn't even invent a boat to cross the sea >invented a starship to cross the universe
Jordan Nguyen
Nope, you can find a few actual Mayans (no, not mestizos) in Yucatan. They still speak Mayan, celebrate Mayan festivities and can read the Mayan runes of their ancestors. They dress in white and they are an attraction to new age tree loving hippies.
Xavier Allen
...
Dominic Diaz
Spanish don't kill mayans. Mayans hated others mayans, and spanish played with that
Hunter Thomas
>we wuz princesses Fuck off chocolatenigger
Jose Walker
Its just some wannabe white man trying to make fun of mestizos.
Charles Bailey
>what is hereditary rule
The last living remnant of a civilization is, by definition, nobility of it.
Brandon King
REIES
Angel Brown
Tell that to white people.
Nathaniel Cook
Gross, sounds (and looks like) a monkey.
Julian Jackson
>couldn't engineer a loo to poo they had and advanced system of sewers at the same tiem european shittied in the streets
Joseph Hall
Everyone got sick of going out. Plus there are a lot of places that can support a small village with fruit, vegetables, starches, and small animals or fish and birds for protein. They can get by working something like 2 hours a day. Why bother with city life?
Matthew Perez
they had a sewage system m8
Justin Cruz
Plenty of Mayans still exist you know, I am one. We still have our own languages.
Isaiah Kelly
>that nose
Ayden Flores
Y
Joshua Scott
Ever since I read "The Last Days of the Incas" I view the new world "conquest" in a different light.
The Spanish walked into a civil war among a small elite civilization that conquered and subjugated less advanced and wealthy groups around them. It was an even game of politics with the Incas doing just as much double crossing and backstabbing as the Spanish. They just happened to lose.
There is some level of ingrained White Man's Burden when you view history through the lens of the Smart Brave White Man versus the Dumb Tribal Brown Ape. As if the Indians or the American Natives or even the Chinese were "less-than-human" and essentially tricked by the White Man. Yeah fucking right.
Aaron Thompson
Why is it that the parts of Latin America that supposedly had the greatest empires are always the shittiest? Mexico and Guatemala had the Aztecs and Maya and all that, and they're cartel-run shitholes, but you never hear about civilizations in current-day Argentina and Chile, and they're almost first-world countries. Why is this?
Justin Wright
and yet not a single piece of machinery
I'll admit their astronomical expertise was pretty high, spaceships are a bit far fetched though
Oliver Ward
Read Conquest of Mexico by Hugh Thomas.
Christopher Gutierrez
>Mexican astronauts
Gavin Garcia
>They went to space And left your ancestors behind. Make of that what you will.
Jonathan Gutierrez
incas were more diplomatic and shit aztecs were ruthless and was easy for the spanish to allie with vassals stated to fuck their shit up they had it coming, the battle to take tenochtitlan was massive
Lincoln Bailey
>why is the only terrestrial area between the americans and their drugs a cartel infested shithole?
to be fair, Mexico has gone trough so many political systems and civil wars its a miracle it even exists today
Camden Wilson
Aztecs were basically a death cult. They were asking to be destroyed. Unlike Rome for example there was no advantage to live under Aztec domination.
Jaxson Sullivan
Just because eventual decline is inevitable it doesn't mean you should drive yourself into the ground.
Avoiding it and learning from the past seems like a better way.
Gabriel Perez
>be advanced enough to understand the natural cycle and history of mankind they let europeans into america for a reason if the aztecs weren't able to beat europeans , they weren't prepared enough to join them in space either
Jose Morales
harvesting metal ore in mesoamerica was extremely difficult due to the geography, they had perhaps some of the most complete understanding of engineering despite their lack of resources
>pic related, mayan bridge
Connor Allen
Please stop.
Connor Wilson
REYNAZ
Cooper Peterson
>Greatest civilization in pre Columbian America >What are the Incas
Adrian Hernandez
never one day i'll take over this country ban spanish and bring back the old ways
Jayden Bennett
Incas were less advanced but better organised.
Jackson Gutierrez
>mexican intellectuals
Xavier Brown
The Mayan empire died out by itself.
Also >Greatest civilization in pre Columbian America >not the Aztecs or the Incas
Mayans are overrated only because of that 2012 shit.
Julian Murphy
Mayan civilisation did not die out, it has a collapse but did not go completely, and was still around, but it was divided into many small Kingdoms which made easy conquest. The Spanish had to conquer Mayan states.
Caleb Sanchez
>aztecs literally deathcult that deserved what happend to them >incas llama fuckers who declined long time before the spanish arrived and was easier to conquer them
Xavier King
It's not a big mystery.
East Asian and White people = Higher average IQ = Better economic development
Low IQ people can't compete under a free market democratic system, which is why leftists demand gibmedats, reparations and other welfare measures to force equality where there naturally isn't any.
Isaiah Reed
Turns out I already had it on an Amazon wishlist. It will be the next book I read.
Blake Gray
That's why I said Mayan empire, not civilization.
>what is ondavitales getting lucky to arrive in the aftermath of an Incan civil war
Jose Robinson
This. I saw a documentary about it. A black pilgrim from africa brought over the blueprints for the African stargates that black people were using 30-40,000 years ago. A disease called 'white people' hit the black people before they were able to use their stargates to get to the new planets. but mayans were able to make it. the "UFOs" you see these days (notably above mexican volcanoes) are mayans visiting us to see if there are any worthy ones to 'elevate' to the new planets.
Josiah Gray
is it good or biased?
Camden Jackson
> African stargates
Evan King
top kek
Nolan Garcia
>Less advanced >Cranial operations with 60% survival rate >Phreatic Zone water extraction >Accurate weather prediction >Turning the mountains into bountiful farmlands >Earthquake-resistant fortresses >Less advanced Get ready to build that wall, Paco.
Landon Evans
Yep. I imagine what people will think of our Civ. in a 1000 years from now. I guess nothing remarkable...
Thanks for the book recommendation tho
Aaron Torres
mesoamericans had that too
Levi Kelly
Oh, sorry.
>Did not even have writing
Cameron Young
some mestizo here? what do you think about this?
Blake Ortiz
why did all south american civilizations go to shit?
Parker Ortiz
They are interesting empires to study, thats for sure. Theres a lot we don't know about them. The Mayan's in particular understood astronomy so well that its a wonder they didn't go to europe before europeans came here.
John Moore
>What are quipus
Spain caught Incas in the middle of a civil war and had superior weaponry, plus Atahualpa getting caught meant the religious war was lost, which demoralized the incas.
The Aztecs were already on the way to self-destruction, though.