Right because tough american prisons do such a great fucking job at helping criminals becoming normal and contributing members of the society once they get out.
Oh wait no they don't.
Nolan Rivera
neither do european jails
Cameron Robinson
your country is just one big jail
Brandon Perez
But we have death penalty and life imprisonment for killers.
Colton Perez
Yeah, and how's that working out at deterring those crimes from happening?
Jacob Moore
Europe will become Latin America very fast. They don't have capital punishment or life sentence.
Jackson Rodriguez
Yes they do. Scandinavia for example has the worlds lowest re-incarceration rates in the world meaning people who get released from prison do not go back in prison.
Tyler Morales
You do realize how isolated the prisoners are in northern european prisons right? They barely get to see any other inmates and it's always in controlled environment if they do.
Nathan Miller
Go back to Sup Forums, you fucking mongrel. Spending years of your life in prison is punishment enough.
Dylan Long
Do criminals go to jail in Sweden? I thought raperefugees even earn money to rape Swedish underages.
Nathaniel Robinson
this
Daniel Jones
America doesn't care about human lives enough to try and deter or prevent crime. They just want to punish people and profit from it. It's a nation of sociopaths.
Robert Butler
They actually do. The % of recividists is vastly lower in Europe than in US.
David Sanders
They're still aberrations desu.
Isaac Butler
In the Netherlands if you get a life sentence you wont get released early like in the USA.
You stay in prison until you die.
Leo Morales
If you believed that you gotta be retarded.. And yes criminals go to jail. Foreigners get deported as well. I spent 4 years and 5 months in Kumla High Security here in Sweden. I got an education while in there and have part time job now while studying.
Meanwhile in the US for example, over 70% if inmates released from prison end up back behind bars within a year..
Jaxon Ortiz
This is an average Brazilian jail for everyone.
Rapist got abused and murder in the first week. The guards let their cell open for a little bit of justice. youtube.com/watch?v=39JJz1nhrjY
Samuel Brooks
>Since the abolition of the death penalty in the Netherlands in 1870, life imprisonment has almost always meant imprisonment until death; unlike in other countries in Europe, there is no possibility of parole for anyone sentenced to life imprisonment. Though the prisoner can appeal for pardon, it must be granted by royal decree; since the 1970s, only two such pardons have been successful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_the_Netherlands
Grayson Ward
Yeah and a prison system ran for profit of private-owned corporations as well as homicide rate twice that of Europe's.
Oliver Jenkins
>I spent 4 years and 5 months in Kumla High Security here in Sweden. Did you used the wrong pronouns?
Asher Campbell
Basically this. This gook is right. All Europe will become Latin America tier except Netherlands and Switzerland.
Joseph King
At least our prisoners don't end på back on the street more broken than before going in.. Our system works, inmates get help, educations and a chance in life after serving their time instead of becoming worse criminals like US inmates...
Elijah Wood
>for a little bit of justice literally nigger tier justice
Andrew Clark
America isn't an exemple when it come to prisons. Having ikea furniture in your jail doesn't make it less a jail.
Dylan Anderson
yet your country is full of serial killers and pedophiles
Wyatt Fisher
>little bit of justice.
Third world tier.
Christopher Allen
>will become Latin America tier Don't talk bullshit. If someone run over people with a car/truck, the population would lynch them right in the spot. We are not pussy fagots like Europeans.
Michael Bailey
What? no, got time for fraud, drugs, illegal firearms and robbery. >yes I'm white, 50/50 Swedish/Norwegian
Liam Butler
Nordics are delusional. Your laws are shit. Deal with it. Rape and crime statistics in Sweden are growing.
Joshua Rogers
Prisons should be turned into labor camps
Andrew Ward
The USA is in the top 15 states when it comes to violent crime and has a homicide rate comparable to states like Venezuela, Ivory Coast and fucking Uganda. You military doctors get send to big hospitals in cities like Chicago so they get used to treating gun shot wounds in fucking Afghanistan later.
Compared to any other European country the crime rate in the US is astronomical and that's partly due to the American prison and justice system being a fucking joke.
Matthew Peterson
i luv french prisons now
Brayden Gomez
Capital punishment is a meme
Charles Evans
Pic related: standard cell in Patarei prison in Estonia
Joseph Myers
Fy skäms.
Asher Morales
Why did you behave like a nigger?
How many people did your country fit there?
Justin Garcia
>and that's partly due to the American prison and justice system being a fucking joke. no, it's due to demographics. compare crime rates among among different ethnic/racial groups and you'll see that crime stats among whites are almost the same as in most european countries
Kevin Martinez
Kek Don't throw stones from a glass house, amigo
Xavier Butler
They often are in the US and prisoners are absolutely allowed to be used as slave labour.
Adam Lee
What does that have to do with our prisons? Refugees who rape/commit crimes get jail time and deported. What else should we do?
Our jail system is based on rehabilitation and that works, proven again and again. I've experienced it my self..
Förlåt.. >Why did you behave like a nigger? Because I was an idiot? And a drug addict? Put those two together and you got an expensive life full of bad choices. I took to crime and paid for it.
Kevin Clark
there's one bed, so i guess one, but it's not a contest of who has the worst one, i know you won fingers in the nose
Ayden Garcia
>put your shit together you damn yuropoors
Jordan Lopez
wow they have a football game and a tv, what a luxury! omg too much.
Ryan Gutierrez
>to demographics. compare crime rates among among different ethnic/racial groups and you'll see that crime stats among whites are almost the same as in most european countries
What's the point of your post? Is the crime rate of the US not an issue because only because certain demographics are disproportionatly overrepresented, what? Also, social inequality and economical background are better indicators in the first place.
Adam Howard
>that italy
Wyatt Garcia
>Our jail system is based on rehabilitation and that works, proven again and again. You don't know niggers. There is no rehab for them... Also, why Sweden is so tolerant toward dugs? Lack of imagination in think that you can only fit one person per bed...
Jaxon Collins
looks like a shelter in STALKER
Nolan Bennett
this is from a new prison thankfully not all look like this
Julian Baker
>europeans think that because their ''jail'' helped some small time european criminal they will be able to help the third world sabages lmao you guys are fucked
Robert Scott
man you can go to jail in the states if you don't pay your parking offense bill
Sebastian Clark
my point is that the ONLY reason of why your crime rates are lower is because of demographics not because your punishment system is better or whatever
Nolan Wood
American prison system >send criminals into a giant pit of scum with daily violence >criminals get no help to become normal >instead they get worse >once released the car thief has now become a gang member/murderer and kills your family >but hey at least you got your 5 minutes of revenge
Scandinavian prison system >criminal ends up in a safe but very strict environment >they get to educate them self and talk about their problems >the time locked up is the punishment, not daily fear of being stabbed >they come out of prison better than they came in >this person who now might be your neighbor helps you fix your car instead of killing you over 20 bucks
Two systems in use. Not gonna say which one is better. But that is how it works.
Dylan Carter
>Also, why Sweden is so tolerant toward dugs? It isn't. Sweden is very opposed to drug use, and the laws are very harsh about stamping it out.
Nathan Miller
>the law is the law
Jack Phillips
Criminal Russian scum doesn't deserve better
Aaron Hill
>Sweden is so tolerant toward dugs What? Drugs is extremely illegal here and our anti drug laws are strict as fuck.
Levi Butler
This is bullcrap. Take a look at tököl prison. Also you get prisoned for 2 years for smoking a blunt. Our country is a shitty mexican backwater shithole. You just showed some Swedish upper class "prison"
Landon King
>sweden prisioner >some fag that stole some bike >american prisoner >blacks that would torture and murder each each other over shoes and shirt color
Gavin Bell
Your premise is not only wrong but useless for any comprehensive criminal justice reform that would aim to lower the crime rate. The reason for the overrepresentation of certain racial demographics in criminal statistics is their overrepresentation in more precariat social classes.
Grayson Miller
63% of the Dutch prisoners are not natives
Henry Jenkins
European prisons focuses on rehabilitation rather than deterrence.
Lincoln Bailey
You do realize we have tons of murderers, rapists and other hardened criminals in prison here right?
Wyatt Ramirez
I heard about an American friend talk about when he got locked up. He was from Ohio, and most of his other inmates were white men who couldn't afford to pay child support. Many had lost their jobs, and their girlfriends and wives had started doing drugs and sleeping with others to finance it. Then they were thrown into a system which made it even harder to get work when they was released, many killed themselves.
Blake Johnson
How exactly did you become this fucking delusional about Northern Europe?
Grayson Ward
Sadly that's how it is over there.
Charles Wood
yeah i bet you do sweden, land of tough gangs lmao you have some bikers roleplaying as americans that shank eachother sometimes, now turn on liveleak and look at mexico and see if letting those people play pingpong would help them, they deserve nothing but death
Henry Allen
>European jails are better than eurofags' houses. No just better than American houses. Now shoo you silly thirdworlder
Adrian Perry
>who couldn't afford to pay child support How can you pay child support when you're behind bars? Logic?
Cameron Baker
Shit's crazy, yo. justicepolicy.org/news/10585 >There are nearly half a million inmates in jail who haven’t been convicted, according to the most recent federal data. Many are facing lesser charges, which suggests they are neither a threat to public safety nor likely to flee from justice. But because they don’t have money, they face immediate punishment and exposure to a potentially fatal form of pretrial confinement, all without due process.
Dylan Nelson
Yeah, many stories like this. And in many prisons there is gang culture as well, if you aren't in one you'll get raped, and if you are in one you get more time. It was better prisons here in Europe 150 years ago.
The reason they got in jail was because they failed to pay childsupport to their cheating wives.
Luis Brooks
As it should be. American prison industry is huge, they care only about the profits.
Ayden Parker
It's because no one go to jail in Europe. See Breivik.
Nathan Miller
Yeah I meant what's the point putting them in jail? Then for sure they can't pay it when they're in prison. What's the logic in that
Alexander Wood
The logic is that American prisons are run by private companies that run on profit and every additional inmate increases its revenue. So there is an incentive to see the most people behind bars.
William Foster
no. they are poor AND they commit more crimes because they are dumber and more violent by nature, they are predisposed to that. they commit crimes and go to a jail not because they can't find a better way to make money but because they choose the criminal way willingly. certain races/ethnicities are just more likely to do some illegal shit and get in a jail because of their genes. it does nit matter if it is a european prison system or an american one. if we replace half of ethnic germans with people of some certain ethnic groups your crime rates will rise dramatically and you won't be able to do anything about it
James Fisher
>See Breivik. You mean the guy who is spending the rest of his life in prison?
Isaac Turner
He's in jail and having constant psychological assesments.
Hunter Lee
>How fucked European countries will be when refugees and minorities reach 50% of their population?
They will be like pic related.
Samuel Bell
Yes. Third world countries face terrible criminal elements thanks to their terrible rehabilitation rate.
Evan Russell
Your criminals are mostly Europeans wait when that changes and your society fracturers. Look at the gifts the non-assimilating groups in the UK, France and Belguim have brought. The Jihadis in France and Belguim are heavily linked to said groups' former convicts.
Sebastian Morris
yeah i bet thats why
Gabriel Taylor
Well, it's not like Japan, Singapore or Philippines. Almost all of our inmates have black ancestry... It's funny because people use the race card unironically to claim discrimination.
No one wants to address the "non white" question. They simple don't get better, no matter how much time and money you spend. They only acknowledge one thing. Torture. Put them in a pole and beat them with a wipe, and you will make them behave. Our penitentiary system is based in Europeans standards.
Cooper Gomez
>and you won't be able to do anything about it This is bullshit. It wasn't all that long ago that in America and before that, various European kingdoms, that people would be publicly lynched and the mortality rate was vastly higher than it is today. These were "white" Europeans doing this. We haven't undergone dramatic evolutionary changes in human behaviour within the past few hundred years so your argument that by nature you cannot do anything about people is complete bullshit, invalided by human history. Are the Northern European nations still slaughtering each other? No, they fucking aren't. The key difference between back then and today is primarily sociological. Education and a society based around valuing human lives makes a huge difference. This is why countries like the USA, Brazil, and Russia are complete fucking shitholes compared to other rich, modern nations. The hole "nigs gonna nig" argument just doesn't hold water.
Jace Young
when you leave your little bubble youll see
Zachary Perez
>His country doesn't sentence people to over 161 life sentences Top pleb.
>I spent 4 years and 5 months in Kumla High Security here in Sweden. What video game system did they give you?
Sebastian Collins
History has already shown that it is YOU who are living in a little bubble. But why don't you show a little intellectual courage and attempt to address these points? Your pathetic "nigs gonna nig" stance is nothing but intellectual cowards, dishonesty and dogma. Nothing but shitty fucking excuses used to make you feel better for refusing to actually thinking about it.
Evan Long
Only in nordic countries Our prisons are old, run down and overcrowded
Blake Butler
You cant get a sentence of higher than 30 years here.
If your sentence would be 31 years or more you get a life sentence instead.
Ethan Anderson
And what's the verdict? Fewer killings? No? Wanna kill all killers until there are no killers to commit killings?
Jeremiah Ramirez
>yet your country is full of serial killers and pedophiles Yes, Greece has never had any of either group.
Oh yes haha forgot that when talking about statistics americans are free to exclude the poorest groups of their society.
Tyler Bennett
its ok jamal, when you actually see how it is in real places youll change your mind your argument is literally ''they are as bad as europeans were in 500ac'' yeah i bet the USA doesnt give them any education when they are all able to read and go to school
Joseph Sullivan
So there are only Russians in Estonian jails?
Grayson Lee
what the hell is wrong with british police? >guy walking around with machete - police literally run from him >don't pay your tv license - we will hunt you down
Henry Brown
80%. Its no meme that Russians here are niggers
Justin Cox
Yeah, and I bet you don't grant political status to prisoners either.
Aaron Peterson
>He shares a cell block that is commonly referred to as "Bombers Row" with Ramzi Yousef and Ted Kaczynski.
Sitcom when?
Leo Ross
>get falsely accused of rape >get put in jail >prisoners hear from the guards you're a rapist >get raped >get stabbed >get killed >American public applauds
Reminds me of mob justice in third world countries. Americans are not too different.