I just learned Nelson Mendela was not a peaceful activist like MLK

Apparently he was a Marxist terrorist

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He also advocated necklacing people who didn't agree with him

MLK was also a piece of shit

You only just learned this ?

youtube.com/watch?v=wu2aL-BXCC0

Yeah, but honestly, being in jail does change a man

He literally killed innocent civilians.

Yes. He is always portrayed as some peaceful leader

How so?

Yeah because integration was so bad, we wouldn't have the problems we do do today, and didn't until anti integration fags like you contributed to the mess.

integration fags force people to act in a certain way and then surprised when they are pissed

Yes, Nelson Mandela was a terrorist who refused to denounce violence. Good that you now know.

He was backed by commie jews as a way to fuck us over and destroy the only chance Sub-Saharan Africa will ever have at a first world nation. The West betrayed us, and left us up shit creek without a paddle, all in the name of muh equality and muh freedom. Rhodesia had no formal racial system put in place, and it was destroyed decades earlier.

Whatever Apartheid was, this forced integration we have now is even worse and causes more conflict and the breakdown of society. Not even the most racist boer cop back in the apartheid days would kill people in a church. The ANC did though.

I guess the world has always seen what it wants to see. Afrikaners will always be bad racists to them, and it doesn't matter if the country has turned to shit since the end of Apartheid under African rule, all that matters is this commie "equality" bullshit that makes them feel good inside. To them, Mandela fought the evil white man and that's all they want to see. I don't care what Europeans, Americans, Asians, or anyone else thinks of me. They live in their dreamland where Africans are peaceful kind and modern, and South Africa isn't one of the most corrupt, crime-ridden places on Earth.

Why is racism wrong? Because you were told it’s wrong? Because pattern recognition and value judgements are taboo when applied to groups of people?

You wanna see what excellent changes Mandela implemented? Come by some time and see for yourself.

Really, I think it was only his wife...but birds of a feather...

Also he was offered to leave prison if he would renounce his violence.

MLK was a communist too, the civil rights movement was funded significantly by White Jews.
rac.org/jews-and-civil-rights-movement

>like MLK
>MLK
>Peaceful
KEK learn more.

Yeah because telling people to stop being niggers, raping, stealing, killing is a bad thing to do. The black community is destroyed and faces """"oppression"""" because of an inability to stop these """"""people"""""". They could still have their culture or whatever because it still meshes with white culture, it's just the violence needs to stop.

godspeed Afrikaner!!

whenever i'm in a discussion about africa i always bring up the fact that african countries are begging for the white farmers to come back.
And how white people need to live in closed of areas if they dont want to be killed in their sleep.
Ofcourse those leftist hippies always have some retarded answer.

He doomed the entire continent of Africa.

Apartheid was a necessary thing and the local blacks only profited from the European presence. But their African genetics didn't give them the patience to wait and work hard to let the wealth trickle down like it did in Asia. Instead they supported a terrorist, killed a lot of Europeans and stole their property. Europe withdraw all investments into Africa. South-Africa is now one of the highest murder rate areas in the world thanks to it's non-segregated cultural diversity.

>The black community is destroyed

Not yet. It's almost there.

Mandela was a fucking commie terrorist. The media demonized him in the 90s and suddenly turned him into a hero post 00s.

Niggers are a fucking plague.

Someone posted this yesterday:

youtube.com/watch?v=G_8wLKy3-Sc

The crime rate is slowly going down, and I've been seeing more and more redpilled blacks lately, but its not enough. I pray some big happening will finally redpill the masses.

His bombs murdered a lot of innocent people. He didn't even target military/government buildings, he bombed whoever, wherever, as long as they were white.

One of the worst people of the previous century t b h.

>Marxist

>Anything I don't like is "Marxist"

You retards have made the word lose any real meaning.

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He was actually a pretty good guy. He wanted to stop racism because the whites were really abusive towards blacks back in the day over in africa. whites in africa basically treated blacks like slaves and used them for cheap labor. other people took his ideas too far though.

a lot of back nations finally have independence now. nigeria even kicked out all of the whites.

he was completely unfaithful to his wife

certainly a flaw in a regular man, but unforgivable for a man of the cloth

>The ANC is a member of the Socialist International
cmon, they were supported by the USSR for decades.

Afrikanniger please shut up

Guys please stop falling for the white south African oppression memes. Its getting sad. Half of them are no worse than the so called nuggets you hate.

>In a few years, Africans are going to get tired of the Chinese pushing them around. China is gonna do something drastic to protect it's investments. It's gonna be violent and the media is going to demonize China. China will inevitably win, because niggers can't do anything right and people don't really care about niggers enough to help them. New Chinese ran Africa will be a huge improvement over nigger ran Africa. The whole world will see that the biggest problem with Africa is Africans.

Nice, but I meant in America.

Crime rate is going down because the prison population is rising. Chimps are simply being put into cages to stop them from hurting anyone. That's how the black community is getting fixed.

It's funny how black South Africans don't know how good they have it.

They bitch and moan about fuck all, and they blame whitey for the fact that their own elected government is corrupt as fuck and taking kickbacks. They're lazy and don't work, and they chimp out over non-issues, like throwing faeces and used tampons at a statue of Rhodes and then destroying it or something.

Blacks from the shittier parts of Africa are constantly trying to find their way to South Africa, in order to improve their quality of life, and when they get here, they work ten times as hard as any local black, and kiss the ground because they've reached somewhere with facilities close to a real working country, unlike wherever the fuck they come from. Former doctors and lawyers will happily mow your lawn and clean your house, and do their work better, faster and more reliably than any local black, because they appreciate what the white man has done here.

Then the local blacks chimp out because local business owners (ie, whites) would rather hire reliable hard working immigrant blacks than lazy, shiftless, unreliable mopey and violent blacks. So the local blacks go on marches and protests and burn the immigrants to death and destroy their homes, and you have these poor people actually going back to Nigeria or Sudan or Djibouti or the Congo, or whatever other shithole they came from because they don't feel safe in South Africa of all places.

And then the local blacks pat themselves on the back and go right back to being lazy, self-entitled children and blaming whitey for not hiring them.

>Constantly getting involved in shit he knows nothing about
>American

Oh right... Enjoy your birthday.

I hate this monkeydela so much. He was a killer who wrote loose platitudes about how south Africa was now his land, even though he was descended from the bantus who had only been there a few hundred years.
and the fact that he nor any of his people had no involvement in the creation of south Africa as we knew it

>not "real" Marxism
>needs to be tried out once more

>ANC-IDF spotted

seriously, go fuck yourself.

apartheid was originally meant to give everyone their own space and say, correct? Sorta a SA version of "separate but equal"...?

It's pathetic that over 20 years after the re-organisation they can't even figure out how to lower crime, curb corruption, or help the economy begin to move positively.

Some blacks had few rights but at least they weren't threatened with necklacing from some other bixnood tribe.

stay safe, Ninja.

/detroiter/ here.

Are you me?

Saved from a previous thread.

>Communist and socialism run African governments
>getting tired of the Chinese
>the biggest problem with Africa is Africans.

Nice fantasy you have there.

It's only a band-aid. They get out and women (of course) breed with them, they still run their gangs from jail. I say the death penalty should come back for repeat violent offenders.

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Ok...

>When people see how allowing niggers their "culture" is actually doing more harm than good, they'll slowly turn against American nigger culture. It will be like the current 'Make America Great Again' movement; everybody is thinking it, we just need an excuse to say it.

I'll be the first one to say this:
Thank you China, for getting rid of niggers.

Did you think he spent 27 years in prison for singing Kumbaya around the campfire?

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Colony fags BTFO and stay BFTO

Seriously, I don't care how long your family's been in Africa since getting off their little Dutch funded ship, but you need to pack your shit and leave.

When a European or German ruler uses brute force to command a will for the good of a people, its called progress and lauded by Sup Forums as necessary evil, yet when colored rulers use the same policy to rule their people and keep whites out of their affairs, they are made out to be monster.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Get on Molymemes show and talk about it. The Truth about Apartheid and South Africa, etc.

Cuz he ended segregation, that nigger.!

>Apartheid was a necessary thing and the local blacks only profited from the European presence. But their African genetics didn't give them the patience to wait and work hard to let the wealth trickle down like it did in Asia

You mean like the Phillipines and Cambodia?

Mandela did nothing wrong, and Africa's future is still yet to be decided. If Mugabe and Egypt pulled their heads out of their asses and got like Nigera and Zambia by investing in technology and commercial infrastructure, they would need to ride EU dick all the time...

I can literally determine you go on reddit based on the way you type

Is "white flight" as bad as they say it is for South Africa?

I know there aren't many left in places like Zimbabwe because of racism, and only poor pale folks seem to stick around despite not being allowed to own land any more.

It boggles my mind that some Whites are stubborn enough to still make their own segregated communities in South Africa when Africans are so violently against them.

It also boggles my mind that they are not granted asylum status in European countries.

Both were Communist fucks who didn't give a shit about anyone except their fellow niggers, but on the whole, Mandela was far worse.

What do you think he was doing at that hotel where he died? Of course he had mistresses.

>implying agitation of the lower classes isn't a form of classist warfare used to destabilize policymakers by marring their campaigns in order to discourage support

It is so obvious isn't it? The hive mind of reddit has created a SJW style of writing, not to be confused with MLA or Chicago.

>"Zambia ranked 117th out of 128 countries on the 2007 Global Competitiveness Index, which looks at factors that affect economic growth.[66] Social indicators continue to decline"

>everything I don't agree with is reddit

Why would 'they' fight corruption?

The authorities ARE the corruption.

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Look, I know it was bad, but we did create a stable and highly successful economy. The rand was worth more than both the dollar and the pound. We had an army worthy of being scared of and we even had nuclear power and nukes. It was THE apex of civilisation in Africa.

We did try to educate them and integrate them, but they refused. They still do. They don't want to learn in school. They don't want to work for their money. Their philosophy is "if you don't give, we take." The blacks just do not posses the capability of being self sufficient. They are a nation of dependants.

We did all we could have done. We gave them the gift of all gifts. We handed them a successful nation on a silver platter, and they fucked it up. What else is there to say? They fucked it up.

I get the people saying whites should go back where they came from and Africa belongs to the kaffirs and all that. You're voicing an opinion... but seriously, fuck all of you.

This is my fucking home.
My family's home.
We've lived in Africa for as far back as anyone can tell.
They farmed in the karoo, farmed in natal and many gave their lives to build this country and better what is theirs
So who is to say that because we are white we don't belong here? You neckbeard fuckers on the other side of the world sitting in a damp basement?

Forget that shit. So typical of you deluded westerners. This is why you arseholes are going to see your arse in a few years. You are not prepared to fight for your homeland. You just complain more and allow people to shit up your place.

So my solution is to abandon my home and become an immigrant?

That's not how it fucking works you lazy cry babies. If someone comes and starts fucking up the home you worked hard to build, you just give up and go to someone else's nicer home because your shits fucked? Fuck that shit. That's not what white people do.

Africa is my home. It may not be the greatest but it's mine and I will strive to improve what I have.

I used to go on reddit back the early days, before it was completely overrun by SJW's, and pretty much just go to the Trump reddit now, but damn do they all type exactly alike. I can't tell if it's just the same small group of people and paid posters rigging everything, or if it's like that fishmouth syndrome that SJW's get, like a weird genetic defect.

To be able to make that comparison, you must visit Reddit a lot.

I just learned Nelson Mandela's last was supposedly always spelled "Mendela". I also learned that he died in the 1980's and that his favourite book was Berenstein bears

>t. Jamal

U wuz kangz amirite?

Who do you think invented Necklacing?

>honorabul honorabul strongho

You're from the Bernstein timeline too?

I think CERN might have something to do with this.

You're thinking of his wife.

Stay strong, mate. I know a lot of Boers and Rhodies and I've heard the horror stories. Your people built civilization there from the ground up just like we did here. Stay, build and preserve your nation the best you can.

I don't think you understand what the American education system teaches about Nelson "black Gandhi" Mandela.

The struggle

>the apartheid regime didn't commit crimes against civilians
My sides!

But did you see the new Tarzan movie?

He went out of his way to target infrastructure and places with no people in them. He was more a saboteur than a killer.
>one of the worst people of the century
That's bullshit and you know it.

No, MLK was pretty good actually. He advocated egalitarianism rather than the current SJW "Wahhh we want special treatment".

Nice strawman

We can't let China have Africa- this is a serious threat to American national interests.

That's what happened when we let ploutocrat run a nation, they don't care about selling their own people, i praticaly sure the situation is totaly ok for rich white people

The apartheid regime wasn't known for being the freest.

Source?

Oy Vey! Shut it down!

>horror stories
You mean the borderline-genocidal killings in the countryside?

It was a real thing at first. Traditionally, the Anglos that moved back to the UK.

The Afrikaners tended to move towards Australia due to the similar climate, and now since there is a lot diaspora there in Western Australia it has become even more attractive for them. I've heard Perth is similar to Cape Town in climate and culture.

But the Afrikaners are also the most stubborn and tend to be more nationalist therefore more are likely to stay in the country. Anglos are more imperialist and were more willing to move back to the UK or the British colonies. These days, only a few white South Africans emigrate because of finance, employment and visa regulations. It's also very hard for people to move with the rand devaluing and old British colonies/the homelands creating more hoops to jump through.

I didn't know this till this thread desu. I remeber watching two very long movies in middle school about how peaceful and great Mandela was. I thought it was onlying highschool and colleges that were Frankfurt schools. Do they really get us this young? Anyone got amy links to Mandela being violent

Come to Perth/WA, we love you guys here.

A good friend of the family told us about her husband being murdered infront of her and her kids in broad daylight amongst other things.

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I can attest to this fact

> mfw broke up with the hottest SA chick you've ever seen

That's the only one I was probably gonna get. That fucking accent, damn.

Add ", much?" To that list. Well known example is " racist, sexist, much?"

>Whites build cities and infrastructure paralleled by no other African country
>Whites restrict blacks use of said infrastructure and cities which they had no part in building.
>Blacks get jealous and unsatisfied with their poorly developed tribal lands and commence a terrorist campaign for many years.
>Whites relent and allow blacks to share there accomplishments and democracy
>Blacks commence destroying everything white people built up over the years.

I don't deny bad shit happened under Apartheid, but that was never my argument. My only point is that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist. His ANC murdered anyone who disagreed with them. And even after everything he had done or was involved in, the apartheid government basically said they’d let him go if he denounced the bombing of innocent civilians. He refused.

This, for some reason, is of course painted as an act of bravery nowadays. But as long as it's whiteys getting what's coming to them for passively supporting Apartheid by living peacefully in the system, who gives a shit, right?

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If Apartheid was actually the separate, but equal system its creators wanted, South Africa would be a multicultural Utopia.

Separate but equal means separate, finish and klaar.
It does not equal separate, but have whites dependent on black labour.
It does not equal separate, but whites get all the resources of the country.

The Nats were greedy. They should have made two completely separate countries, with enough resources on each side to be sustainable.

The nigger side would still be a festering shithole like current South Africa. But they wouldn't have the excuse of blaming white people.

He also plagiarized most of his work. Boston University even discovered plagiarized passages in his dissertation for a doctoral degree years after he died and literally did nothing about it.

nytimes.com/1991/10/11/us/boston-u-panel-finds-plagiarism-by-dr-king.html

They would still blame white people
Congo is imperialism fault a hundred years later

They don't need an excuse m8. They'll always blame us.

law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mandela/accused11.html

Why do people still talk about this guy? Hes been dead for like 20 years

America isn't investing in overseas expansion anymore. The only thing America cares about the world right now, is maintaining the status quo. We're top of the world, so we just want to keep it the way it is. I get it. But the world lags behind because a massive land mass, with
millions of people, won't shape up. Something has to give. If we wont invest in Africa, let the Chinese do it. It's not like they're gonna turn Africa into a first world manufacturing powerhouse. They're just going to take the raw materials they need to make the crap WE buy.

Reddit was always an sjw place. The makers even admit to censoring content at the start