Why don't people people buy blu-ray/DVDs any more?

Why don't people people buy blu-ray/DVDs any more?

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Fuck off, corporate shill!

MUH SHECKLES!

You start asking

>how many times will I watch this?
>is it even worth it?
>will my massive blu ray collection ever impress anyone?

So whats the point when it's free and don't have to be burdened with such questions

Probably because, according to your image, they can make money by pirating stuff.

Copying isn't stealing. Either I download a movie from torrents or not, rights owner doesn't suffer or benefit. I simply cannot do any harm to them, even if I would. And digital copy is more reliable that some shitty disc that will turn into garbage from one scratch.
Fuck you.

Ignoring the obvious bait image, steam is more convenient than piracy. Blu-ray isn't.

Does steam have movies now? And if so why?

Oh no, I mean in regards to Vidya. I wouldn't get movies on steam even if I could.

hes saying for video games. If you're retarded steam is easier than piracy. But for movies and television, all the monetized services and physical media are objectively worse than piracy.

All movies suck. Who would even pirate the trash made now.

I do, Blurays are cheap as shit and it's the only way to really enjoy 4k

>steam is more convenient than piracy. Blu-ray isn't.
WRONG

It really is. It's worth 10 bucks to not have to wait for some faggot to seed me 60gb. Automatic updates and online shit is just bonus. And hell, if I lose my library, not like piracy is going anywhere.

Steam shill get out. Steam is literally cancer.

Fuck off mate, lemme hear your alternative.

pirate AAA titles, buy indies off gog or just DRM free (yes steam is DRM) and get a switch/wiiu/3ds for good console games

I buy the hard drive so i paid for the data.

Literally anything but steam. Steam is a monopilising monster and shovelware site. Companies that make steam exclusives should be boycotted.

>dude just pirate, it's literally worth the extra work to stick it to the man
>dude buy a FUCKING SWITCH
Let me repeat that.
A FUCKING SWITCH.
The piece of shit that you literally cannot even use the controllers that come with it they're so shoddily put together. Whats the last fucking game you played, user?

I mostly play phone games honestly, but I do watch twitch streams of real games a lot.

You dont even have to pirate anymore to get games withoit paying.
Get drm free games from sites that give rewards. Buy any game that you absolutely have to buy on steam with the voucher.
the last steam game i bought i got from selling virtual items

Welp, we've hit Poe's law, this is over.

If you're a baiting Sup Forumsirgin, fuck you.

The entire point of this thread is convenience. Why would I jumped through a shitton of hoops to save 5 bucks? And I'm not even a wageslave.

What did he mean by this?

>downloading 40gigs for something you're probably gonna watch on your phone
What did he mean by this?

Was it autism?

This.

My ISP caps me at like 80GB a month I'd be able to get 2 movies and then just spend the rest of the month with no internet it would make no sense.

>he doesnt have home theater setup.
I bet you dont even watch on VLC at X2 speeds pleb.

No real reason when Netflix and other streaming services are much cheaper options and have massive libraries to watch, it even makes piracy obsolete too which is win-win for both consumers and producers.

The way sites are now they are more convenient than steams trash system

Communists detected.

And I don't mean watered-down socialists like Bernie Sanders.

You indolent slackers just went FULL left-wing retard vis-a-vis property rights.

I download from public pirate bay trackers just as fast as I download from steam.

The nice thing about torrents is sometimes those 50gb games are compressed down to 20-30gb, which means a much quicker download.

Also I couldn't give half a fuck about game publishers (devs dont get money from sales) and would like to see the whole game industry crash and have to rebuild itself.

Something something that has nothing to do with movies on a movie board.

What if I had no intention of buying the product but pirated it anyway.

If PC games weren't piratable, I wouldn't even play games either. Good luck debating this one goody Flanders.

i dont get it, nobody is saying piracy isnt a crime but why does it have to be theft?

enjoy the malware, seriously every single game torrent on public sites are loaded with trojans and shit

>this is what buyfags actually believe

it does and I think it's because they started having some video game documentaries on there as bonus content for games and they just kinda branched out. You can get the Walking Dead on steam so they do some shows too.

because what is released is complete utter shit these days so it's not worth it.

Most movies aren't worth watching more than once.

The only reason i stopped pirating was because its easier to simply buy it.

Aka make it accesible less people will pirate.

because there is almost no chance of you getting in trouble for 'stealing' movies/tv shows and because so many do it only encourages others that it is a completely acceptable act

>(yes steam is DRM)
Factually and objectively not true. Steamworks is the DRM made by valve that may or may not be included in steam games at the discretion of the games developer. Plenty of DRM free games are available on steam and once downloaded these games can be launched directly from their executable without ever launching steam. To put it more clearly, Steam itself is not DRM, steamworks is and it is the game maker's choice whether or not to use steamworks, their own brand of drm (denuvo or uplay or whatever) or no drm at all.

traditional concepts such as theft and ownership do not work in the post-scarcity context of piracy

>Digital rights management (DRM) schemes are various access control technologies that are used to restrict usage of proprietary hardware and copyrighted works.[1] DRM technologies try to control the use, modification, and distribution of copyrighted works (such as software and multimedia content), as well as systems within devices that enforce these policies.[2]

Steam is the literal definition of DRM.

Hey it looks like you replied to me without reading my post. That's weird. I'm going to copy and past some of my post here, hopefully you actually read it this time.

>Steamworks is the DRM made by valve that may or may not be included in steam games at the discretion of the games developer.

Even better, here's an (incomplete) list of some of the DRM free games available on steam.
>pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_Big_List_of_DRM-Free_Games_on_Steam

>Copying isn't stealing.

No, copying IS stealing. What copying ISN'T is larceny. When you steal tangible goods, its larceny. When you've stolen intellectual property, it's theft.

What did medieval peasants five hundred years ago find this such an easy concept to grasp, but you with the entire world's knowledge at your fingertips from that magic box you're typing into can't understand it?

Theft is still theft regardless of whether you had the money or intention to pay for it in the first place.

I hate steam shills. Dumbest bunch if cucks.

Piracy isn't theft, it's copyright infringement. They're two very different areas of the law here.

Piracy steals nothing if you weren't going to purchase it in the first place. No physical product, no theft, never a customer for the product, never was there going to be a profit for the company creator of the product.

Copyright infringement is a type of theft.

>intellectual property
Contradiction in terms.

>presented with facts
>better call him a cuck
lmao nice post, compelling and rich

You being too stupid to know what the term means doesn't mean they contradict one another.

>Piracy steals nothing if you weren't going to purchase it in the first place.
Except that presupposes you know the future. In time you might've bought the game or movie, but having pirated it now you definitely won't. It turns an uncertainty into a certainty. Not to mention the fact that you acquired something with a hard price for free.

There's no such thing as intellectual "property." Everything ever created resulted from the influence of something else that was copied. That's all creativity is. Copying ideas, mutating those ideas, and combining those ideas.

Why do that when I can rent and stream?

>There's no such thing as intellectual "property."
No, there literally is. You can sit there defiantly telling the lawn that green isn't a real thing because it's just red mixed with yellow, but it won't make it so.

You don't like how civilization has deemed intellectual property to be a real and quantifiable thing? Go stake out some patch of unclaimed land where no one has any rights to any ideas they come up with. Otherwise, get used to the law of the land.

I just don't care, I'm not going to lie to myself that it isn't immoral or anything.

I think you mean blue + yellow makes green. Red and yellow is orange.

Is it just me, or do all the piracy defense arguments sound just like those sovereign citizen videos where the faggots are arguing with cops?

>you can't arrest me for speeding because I wasn't driving, I was *traveling*

>want to watch a movie or tv show
>don't own the physical disk
>fuck you either buy the disk or stream it using our shitty compressed source
fuck that, I'll just take 5 minutes to download a properly compressed BDRip

Green is a concept that we created to describe a general portion of the visible spectrum of light. It's not something definitively set in stone, since where "green" begins and ends is fuzzy and the visible spectrum isn't comprised of 7 solid colors. The visible spectrum is a smooth gradient comprised of a very large assortment of colors. Isaac Newton "defining" the colors of the visible spectrum hundres of years ago is man trying to put nature into a rigidly-defined box, which cannot be done because nature is not rigidly-definable.

Any ideas you come up with are ideas you have because of other ideas that came before you, and frequently different people will come up with exactly the same idea as each other at exactly the same time. Ideas are not property, they are products of other ideas which were themselves products of other ideas.

There is no such thing as intellectual "property," for trying to state that it exists is like trying to state that a rainbow is only comprised of 7 colors — no more, no less.

>90% of my media was old enough to be recorded to video/mixtape
>thats not piracy. if it was then they wouldve made tape players and vhs's with recorders bannable.
>that other 10% sucks and doesn't deserve my money nor will it suffer without me. if it did then it wouldn't be going the direction I dont like which everyone else is throwing their money towards

Indie movies I would buy and blu-rays of movies of movies I love
because I like the collection of them and since im strict on them theres only like 50 of them, but all of them are top teir and no bullshit, unless its good bullshit like hobo with a shotgun and kung pow/kung fu hussle

i own dvd box sets
it's quicker and easier to go to a streaming site than getting up, finding the dvd, putting it in the player and then waiting through all the copyright warnings and shit

>data caps
I want off jewcast's wild ride


OY VEY GOYIM PAY US A EXTRA $50 FOR A PREVIOUSLY UNLIMITED CONNECTION TO KEEP IT UNLIMITED

>literally debates the existence of the color green to justify being a poorfag leech on society

wew. Imagine if you put any of that energy toward actually working a job, you fucking worthless nigger. Then you might have the income to not need to be a filthy degenerate thief.

I honestly don't remember the last time I actually torrented a game but unless your a retard and download the torrent with the lowest seeders you're pretty safe

youtube.com/watch?v=nJPERZDfyWc

I suggest you watch this to better understand just how fragile and worthless the idea of "intellectual property" is. I 100% guarantee that YOU have "stolen" ideas before.

Please stop trying to argue with ad hominem and nothing else. It's not productive and doesn't get you or him anywhere.

nigger I'm not paying $20 or whatever to see some bullshit I'll only ever care to watch once

>have a huge collection
>no effective way to browse a bunch of physical discs
>when I want to watch something I have to go and get the disc and put it in
>they have ads, trailers and all sorts of shit in them
>cost a lot to maintain a collection
>they can and are region locked
>they don't always show up in you region in any timely manner

literally no point

Sorry to break it to you but GIGABYTES are not a finite medium like coal,oil or mineral ore.
They dont exist therefore you can put a cap on it,you can pay for network maintenance but is stupid to have a number cap.

tons of people do actually, mostly the older generation and parents buying them for their kids but we make most of our profit through physical media because the profit margin is huge, along with cables and warranties.

As opposed to putting your head in the sand and pretending your pot-smoke dream of intellectual property being something you can argue out of existence is ever going to hold up. It's been grounded in law for western society for over five hundred years. You choosing to pretend it doesn't exist carries all the weight of the libertarian faggot who insists he's rejected his citizenship so he's not subject to the law of the land when he gets arrested.

You would've if there was no such thing as piracy and it was your only way to view it. But since you CAN watch it for free, it's been devalued in your eyes and $20 isn't worth something you can see for free. Ergo, the whole "I wouldn't have seen it anyway" is indefensible.

>having a home theater system
>pirating movies to watch in said home theater

>thinking its appropriate to pay for art

t. someone that doesn't know how networks work

the infastructure is a once time cost
infastructure maintenance is not horribly expensive
shunting electrons around costs nearly nothing ($0.10/kwr)

>>cost a lot to maintain a collection
what? All you need is shelf space

I'm not the guy you were arguing with, I'm just pointing out that calling him a dumb thieving nigger doesn't help your case. I agree with you, but I want you to prove him wrong with facts instead of trash talk. Just trying to help you out here buddy.

I'm not paying for it if normies are going to pay for it anyway

>please watch this 40 minute video because I am incapable of forming my own arguments or even succinctly summarizing the ones made in this video

Lazy nigger.

>Having huge collection on demand
>What whatever I want instantly
>In the highest quality available retail
>but for free

Again, you would if you couldn't steal it. That's the whole point. You only steal because you can get away with it. If the only way for you to watch a movie was paying legal tender, you'd bitch but you'd do it.

So your point is that one should not pay for internet access at all?
Really makes you think

Hard-left commies noted.

my point is unlimited data on a fucking cable connection should not cost over $100 a month
I was paying $80/mo for LITERALLY YEARS until they pulled this bullshit

It all comes to this - if you all weren't poor and had a decent paying job where buying a couple blurays a month doesn’t affect your financial status at all, most of you would buy them.

Admit it, torrenting is for poor people.

>Supports commie Hollywood
I'd like to question where your loyalties lies

>piracy steals income
No it doesn't. That entire premise hinges on the assumption that people pirating something would buy it if they couldn't pirate it. Setting aside the fact that many people pirate things they couldn't afford to buy even if they wanted to, or things that are not available to them in their region or country, you can't even prove it for people for whom buying the product was an option because you'd have to be able to read minds to do so. This claim is basically accusing people of stealing imaginary money. Treating every pirated copy as a lost sale is as stupid as it is shamelessly greedy.

The actual crime being committed is copyright infringement. Copying/distributing somebody's intellectual property without their permission. There's plenty of laws already in place for dealing with it, yet media industries aren't satisfied with that. Because "they're infringing our exclusive rights to exploit this intellectual property" doesn't have as sympathetic a ring to it as "they're stealing from artists!"

the inner jew thinks that $20 a blu ray or whatever would literally be better utilized if it was lit on fire

as long as there isn't a unified subscription based movie platform where I can watch whatever I want for like X$ a month I'm gonna have to torrent movies - I don't have time to wait 25 years for distributors to pull their fingers out. It's not about money, its about the convenience and breadth of torrenting compared to every other alternative

Wrong you fucking loser. Film isn't the main entertainment, you delusional fuck. You watch film so you can post about it on this board, you moron. The more film you are able to watch, the better Sup Forums poster you are, you tool. Torrenting allows for unlimited view of a limitless amount of material. If you watched herp derp 2 movies a month you would be out of touch and unable to understand the memes on this board. Two movies a month? Are you fucking serious? Casual as fuck.

>tfw owning the twilight zone and seven samurai on blu ray

Y'all don't know what true kino looks like, assholes.

I did succinctly summarize the arguments from the video, and you'd know that if you'd watch it.

But you won't, because your pride is more important than education. Since you'd rather attack me than my arguments, you're wasting my time.

Dude I pay 20 euros for unlimited internet with digital TV and phone included.
i don't know what you americans are doing there nor do i care.
I just came here to laugh at you people trying to justify bandwidth cap on an unlimited medium.

I like watching videos on my computer, so I can take screencaps and make gifs or webms if I want. Easier to do this with a downloaded media file than a stream. I actually own many of the movies I download on DVD, VHS, or BD. I just find it more convenient to download a new copy than to try ripping them myself (which is just as illegal anyway).