The problem is not capitalism. The problem is social market economy with high taxes and a big state. It goes against the laws of nature and free market capitalism
Jayden Ramirez
>The Free Market Meme Literally retarded
Robert Morris
Just because they're without a state doesn't mean they're without, religion, a constitution and a king with limited powers. Your system has millions and millions and millions of inevitable problems that can never be solved, while my system has potential to work without any problems whatsoever
Ryder Bell
>Not regulating business >No inevitable problems Alrighty, friend. Forget the fact that Marx predicted the political-economic environment of the US today like 150 years ago. Purely coincidental!
Zachary Hill
Neo-liberal are really deluded.
It's gonna work, it just almost killed every european nation so we need more liberalism to solve the problem.j
Sound just like soviet btw
Landon Reyes
>muh Jews Jews are only in banking and in the media, most capitalists are whites, Chinese, Europeans, etc.
Communism goes against humanity. It turns people into ants, it's inhuman and can't work. It's a scourge that must be eradicated.
Carter Powell
This, marx is a utopian fag but a very good economist with engels who make law today about capitalism flaw
Noah Peterson
>Listening to Greece about the economy kek >Jews are only in banking It's a blanket term for shady douchbags running the world into the ground for financial gain >Communism ain't natural You realize all economic systems are unnatural, right? Bartering wasn't a think until pretty far into history. It was mostly credit based borrowing of random shit. "Like, hey can I borrow your shears?" "Sure, but only if I can borrow your bucket later"
Noah Bennett
If you have a totalitarian bolshevik Jew regime that controls all the banks, media, governments and universities in the west and uses all of their powers to intentionally subvert and disintegrate the west from within then you can't say that that system represents capitalism, just like I can't say that the soviet union represents communism because it doesn't. The soviet union was a socialist state.
Gavin Kelly
Marxists like you should be lit on fire so that people can roast marshmallows.
Carter Flores
Some form of robo communism is inevitable once robots replace everybody. Probably not before that.
Capitalism basically destroys itself in a mad dash to decrease labor prices while forgetting that it needs people to work to sustain itself and it's profit margins.
Grayson Reyes
>But capitalism does? Who told you that, the bought and paid for public officials? The personal computer you're using does. North Korea doesn't have those. Bernie forgot to tell you that, didn't he?
Kevin Phillips
I had to go through like three different web browsers just to find one that wasn't cucking me with seizure inducing flashing white pages because of programming errors.
Because the internet is SATURATED with contradicting programming from multiple sources all centered around making a profit.
Half owned by the same God damn corporate entity that is Microsoft. Just thinking about all the chaos and the commotion of what goes into something so simple as browsing the internet and posting on this shit place but bombarded with bourgeois jewry makes me want to vomit.
And that's not even bringing moderators into the equation. The modern feudalism.
Oliver Ross
Why don't communists and socialists buy stocks?
It's literally owning the means of production.
Aiden Clark
North Korea does have computers you fucking idiot. In fact their internet is much more constructive being a centralized nationstate internet. Far easier to maintain, regulate, and no God damn felon moderators.
You'd be so lucky as to be North Korean. And if they weren't being cucked with embargos they'd already have robot waifus.
Brody Morales
Oh, but this is not true communism/socialism/whatever twist you leftist fucks give to a failed system.
Ethan Wood
How about using some common sense to solve the problems instead of going to extremes?
Michael White
If you want a better internet, capitalism allows you to create a better internet and make money while doing so. Communism does not allow anyone to do any of that
Brayden Turner
>"We've finally driven labor prices down to 0, they're essentially slaves! Now we jsut sit back and enjoy pure prof- Wait... No one is buying anything, why not?!" Every time
>A leaf
I'm not saying Capitalism is inherently flawed, but it certainly seems to have destroyed my country.
Jacob Wright
>now we will finally build true communism, all tries before was a big mistake
Isaac Gray
Those computers are used by government employees for government purposes. The average citizen has never seen one in his life. Hence why I said "personal computers", Pablo.
Jack Jackson
Trusting a mooching neet like Marx really makes me wonder how stupid people are.
Henry Jenkins
>But capitalism does? The reason why you're allowed to run your stupid commie mouth on a machine that's connected to a network of servers is because of capitalism, retard.
Evan Scott
>TIME >TO >GIVE >COMMUNISM >ANOTHER >SHOT I think you meant time to shoot communists
Kevin Allen
Yeah, I'm pretty sure your average NK citizen has access to internet.
Here, and in the rest of shithole South America, even the poorest of all have access to internet.
Jeremiah Rivera
Go do communism on your own time in your own nation.
Fact of the matter is that even in America you have the freedom to self incorporate and donate all your money to a communist charity. You can be free of taxes and do it all your way.
Millions of decared communists and they can't make this work. Even when they are free to exclude unproductive members, they can't keep so much as a tribe running.
Brayden Brown
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Lincoln Sullivan
>Time to give Communism another shot. Can't wait to start giving free helicopter rides to some fuckheads
Gabriel Murphy
>It is 2016 and you are still able to see baby communists get btfo.
conflicted feel, but mostly positive.
Carson Howard
Instant save
Leo Smith
>implying communists aren't just as jewey
Nathan Perez
>94,000,000 dead >lol we'll just try harder next time
Brody Morales
Read this post then read it again and then read it again until you really understand it Jews abusing their totalitarian powers in a social market economy just to plunder the state in their sick tax funded industries like the military industry, the refugee industry, the welfare industry and all the other atrophic parasite industries, that's what destroyed your country, not capitalism. Get it through your head you stupid self loathing, kikedefending commie shitfag.
Joseph Hill
I'm holding out for a kingdom of ends.
Kant has wisdom.
Tyler Price
It's not real socialism.
Christian Green
Seriously i can't understand Sup Forums on this subject.
On only ~200 years capitalism killed every single western nation, what do you want now
No it's not just jew. I don't know for every country but in france this happened when DeGaulle died(degaulle was "authoritarian" ""far-right""leader who rule for some years with some communist make the nuclear project, spatial project(france was the third nation to go to space)he make executed people who wolrk with nazi, give independance to algeria afr the french military victory overs rebels because he didn't want to have 20 millions french algerian, try to stop american influence in france...etc...etc) A lliberal started to do measure like massive immigration because it was the economic interest of france, it indeed make the country more rich. He do that because he was a capitalist and capitalism is a marxist neologism who design a form of goverment were the increase of wealth is the main political subject.
If you are a capitalist you already put the nation and the people beside economic interest and it's the logic who kill the west today.
They are not crazy they just think economy is the more important thing and thris no need of subvertion to come to this logic
Chase Green
Good job avoiding his point.
Isaac Price
Leftists saying that the solutions for all the problems is more leftism is like a alcoholic drinking to stop the hangover They are going to lose their liver at some point
Leo James
let's create a new socioeconomic system with leftist ideas.
marxism is pretty overrate and isn't the only way to make a better world by achieving a better life quality for the majority of the people
Thomas Rogers
>other socialist regimes were not socialist enough so lets try my special flavor of socialism i promise it will work this time guys ;_;
Henry Lewis
I've got nothing against small, justified, surgical purges.
You know, mostly involving free helicopter rides. That's right, you leftist fucking shit! They're free! They're completely free for anyone that deserves them!
See, this guy gets it.
They're absolutely free! In order to protect egalitarianism, each individual is only allotted one (1) free helicopter ride, though. Unfortunate, but you'll understand, right?
Liam Lewis
>he thinks that private property isn't the very staple of a free society grow up kid
what we need is a true free market and a move away from collectivist shit like public healthcare, centralized governance, high taxes, bloated state departments, and get rid of lall the useless laws which prevent people expressing themselves. lassiez faire capitalism is the doctrine of innovators, who wish to create jobs themselves and benefit those who help achieve their ideas.
communism is the doctrine of lazy idiots who just want to either be told what to do or tell everyone else what to do for the rest of their lives, with little room for individuality or innovation. it has led to genocide and social discourse almost everywhere which it has been implemented, and the only reason capitalism is failing is because communists have all the money because politicians are in their pockets
Wyatt Brooks
The US stopped being capitalist more than half a century ago, you fucking idiot. The welfare state, income tax, and government regulated economy are straight out of the communist manifesto.
Liam Russell
BTW, cooperatives (essentially what a socialist wants), are perfectly compatible with a free market. Just get the fuck out of my property.
Christopher Sanders
>By Venezuelan No wonder why your country is literally teh definition of a distopia
Real capitalism has never been tried! It has always been socialism controlled markets!
Colton Turner
I answered more hereBut i can resume my point, for me capitalism no matter what you try to put in place to avoid degenracy is by essence a generate system because it put peoplean nation beside the economy it bring a logic who can't controlled and it's what history show us, except for japan but it's just 70 years old and they will go nationalist before the degeneracy
Carson Wright
It's easier for jews to weasle their way into one business (and they get the government for free too) than it is to weasle their way into multiple businesses and the government. Add to the fact that they have to not piss of said businesses too. There is a reason the US took so long to be corrupted while the USSR was corrupt from the start. While the non corrupt businesses fled to Europe or America with their money too.
noice
Blake Taylor
>C-capitalism is so terrible, I can own anything mankind has ever dreamt of, b-but still everything is shit because I'm a looser! >S-sure under Communism people murder one another over a piece of bread, b-but capitalism isn't much better, I swear!
Colton Rodriguez
Capitalism is fucking great, even the crony capitalism we have
People who piss and whine about capitalism only do so because they're too retarded to make the system work for them. The first rule of capitalism: there is no room for the weak.
Isaiah Gray
Britanon is right.
Josiah Watson
Fra:ce wasn't capitalist during degaulle mandat and curiously it wasn't so hard to live here
Jaxon Edwards
>KC Green thinks he invented the joke but Pinochet was living it in the 70s
Christian King
OP is clearly a Capitalist who's trolling.
sage goes in all fields
Dylan Morris
Jews invented communism
Luke Hill
Look this guy who take a pic with his iphone.
He make enough money to live comfortably, capitalism is the rule of the strongest, what a great man
William Ross
I will donate use of my entire arcade game collection to the first socialist arcade.
No coin in, no cover charge for shareholders and free admission to anyone on some kind of food assistance. The arcade must be open at least 8 hours per day, 6 days per week.
To this day, nobody can turn autonomous entertainment machines into something that can pay rent. Somehow, this same group of people can be expected to run a country.
Jack Williams
good post
Henry Hughes
>Communism doesn't work When will this Jewish meme die?
Isaiah Brooks
>complains about competing programming standards >complains about Microsoft having a dominant market share Why can't socialists even maintain a coherent thought for half a second? Microsoft monopolizing the entire software market is LITERALLY what you're asking for (only replace "Microsoft" with "Amerisoft").
Adam Foster
> what did he mean by this?
Nicholas Watson
when it works
Evan Robinson
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Julian Baker
Capitalism isn't failed the problem is just fucking neoliberalism
Angel Bailey
France is more free than ever and shittier than ever
Before the 70's we were still a massive power with a lot of influence and amongst the most innovative nation in the world. Company were privatised media were really controlled by the state, abortion was forbiden, divorcing was really hard, they was a obligatary military service, more tax, etc etc
Lucas Rivera
R A R E F L A G A R E F L A G R E F L A G E F L A G F L A G L A G A G G
Logan Rodriguez
It's already extreme so going back to the common sens is a extreme will
Leo Anderson
I'll only be a communist when they stop glorifying Hard Work
Read Russell's "In Praise of Idleness"
Communists should support full automation, not back breaking work for the "proletariat", so we can all enjoy free time
I mean really, why would anyone want to work?
Ayden Ortiz
kys
Jacob Morgan
neoliberalism is just "muh pure capitalism" but on a world stage. Sounds like capitalism to me
Luke Ross
Here neoliberalism meant privatization of state companies (handed over to friends of the government of course) plus state-enforced monopolies of said companies. A joke of a "free market"
Luke Phillips
>Implying modern communism would mean a purely agrarian society That's silly. I imagine more of a purely automated labor force. The only actual "jobs" remaining will be in the government, designing/maintaining the automatons, and various craft/artistic endeavors. Everyone else will just be on the gobment cheese.
tl;dr: I agree
Juan Howard
>let's be communist because we dislike Jews
Didn't do a lot of thinking there, did ya?
Liam Ross
lol
Wyatt Price
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Jeremiah Bell
>Muh real free market >Muh we never try free market >Muh everybody will be happy under free market
Two post later
>kek he think sovuet weren't communskt >he think it wasn't communsim
Autistic liberal
Ryan Fisher
That's what I mean, I'm not talking about agrarianism, though I do want to see a more green world, the godawful Soviet cities make me eyes bleed. I guess you could me a techno-socialist. It's just a lot of the time, I see some communists advocating that work is a necessity and Stalin dindu nuffin by working people to death.
Asher Gutierrez
>There's literally nothing wrong with purges
Cant argue with that.
Seriously though, spouting this kind of shit on the 4th of all times, you are a disgrace to a great nation.
Lucas Lopez
> Communism works meme
> Communism never tried correctly before meme
> Giving a one party state power over intimate areas of private citizens doesn't necessarily lead to purges meme
Look, just go get a job, climb the career ladder by working well, raise a family, get your children more opportunities by giving them a good education and be happy you never experienced communism back in the day when it was cool. My parents and grandparents told me about Yoloswagia back in the day, it was intolerable for anybody with an actual, valuable skill. You are not stupid, quit the cult while you are young.
Evan Gutierrez
Just gas the kikes you fucking retards
Gavin Long
Jews invented communism for those they take over.
Aaron Ramirez
I only see degeneracy in socialism to be honest. Single mothers popping kids like there's no tomorrow to get some of that welfare money, state incentives to live the Greek-style NEET life, tax money that goes to fill the pockets of 100 politicians that do the work of a single man, or to pay the salaries of a professor teaching in useless carreers like Gender Studies.
You would see degeneracy in a free market, but at least it would be privately funded; instead we get a system where we're forced to subsidize the mistakes of others.
Luis Nguyen
What the hell are you talking about, you frog-eating retard
Jaxson Sullivan
not even rare
stahp
Aaron Wilson
You are not european so of course you can't know what it is do to see a 600 years church with a tag on it!, or seeing t place were the kings of france rest surrounded by muslim and niggrs This happened because of liberalism not socialism or communism, and i'm not socialist or communist but nationalist
Bentley Edwards
No, this is because you have a system that attracts and subsidizes shitty immigrants and that prevents you from defending your property against them.
Asher Baker
Those 20th century attempts were admittedly shitty. Leninism is a load of authoritarian bullshit.
Liam Turner
OP is a faggot.
Communism never works.
>B-b-but it wasnt real communism! >Need another chance! >DIDN DU NUFIN!
Sod off.
Connor Price
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Zachary Hill
Is there any other way to get to communism? To begin with, you need so seize the means of production and purge the bourgeoisie. How are you going to achieve that without violence and totalitarianism?
I tell you, don't fall for this rubbish. It's a cult, very similar to Islam btw, and goes contrary to everything that made the west superior and nice to live in.
Adam Reyes
>Communism fails >capitalism is seen as having some downsides for some
hurr let's do communism again guys let's replace what we think doesn't work with something we know didn't work
Adam Lewis
No this argument clearly don't work.
People come to work not getting welfare that's why today with the french unemployement people who can very easily and are almost forced by th gov to take french nationality(calais) refuse and prefer stay in shitty camp hoping to go in england where they can have a work more easily because of more liberal law
Our immigration come from a liberal president who bring millions of immigrant to make a bigger interior market and low wages and it's good for the economy that's proven.
Your pic is all of why liberal are totaly blind to the history, the fact is, it never happened, people can't choose that because there is always a part of the population who want to become richer, that's natural
Jaxson Cruz
>When will you idiots learn? They don't, that's why their commies
Daniel Gonzalez
>capitalism ruined the west in 200 years
Communism ruined every country it touched much faster
Leo Taylor
>I tell you, don't fall for this rubbish. It's a cult
exactly, the biggest cult mankind has ever seen. It's leaking into the west now at a terrifying rate. All memes aside, Social Justice and blind progressivism is a product and agent of the cult of communism and it needs to be stamped out soon if the west is to survive.