>In 1970, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol.[9] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited out the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[9] He was later moved to a VA assisted living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. He resided there for his last seventeen years until his death due to malnutrition on September 30, 1987.
>Died of malnutrition in a veterans hospital really makes you think
That's where people always fuck up, the gun to the temple thing looks kino but is a terrible way to commit suicide.
Robert Long
You really just need to look in a mirror while you are doing it to make sure the barrel is positioned to hit your brain not your eyes
Samuel Taylor
My great-grandfather killed himself like 10 years after he fought at Okinawa. They didn't know what PTSD was or how to treat it back then
Christopher Scott
In your mouth and point it up towards the base of your skull.
James Harris
I'm really paranoid about suicide. I don't know what the signs are and am afraid someone I know might attempt suicide. I'd feel like I failed them, like I wasn't there when they needed me.
Easton Bailey
REEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S NOT ANYBODY'S FAULT
Jose Baker
WHAT IS THE GODDAAAMN HOLDUP, MR. SOBEL?
Jaxson Hill
Heard having a mouthful of water will cause some form of shockwave and obliterate your whole head
Alexander Hall
They'll tell you. It takes a while to get that low to commit suicide. It's seen as desperate or annoying or whining, or just plain attention seeking - but thats what it is
Eli Sanders
>only 9mm
Brody Martinez
try it for us and find out if that's true
Connor Taylor
I'll do it and post results
Jason Brown
kk I'll report back
Oliver Bennett
Wtf I drink water everyday
Lincoln Gonzalez
David Schwimmer was surprisingly nice towards him and did his research on the man.
Isaac Watson
>you are going to die
Ryan White
not really, many guys never tell anyone and one day just go down to their garage and hang themselves
Samuel Phillips
It's a slow burn but when it hits you it's bad man, Make sure to get help before that point hits. Luckily I had a support group in place but if I didn't I;d be dead.
Matthew Nelson
>PTSD nah fampai, he was just depressed at being a loser. not saying he deserved suicide, but he wasn't the greatest dude and wasn't operational to get PTSD.
Connor Harris
>They didn't know what PTSD was nigger they knew what it was after WW1, look up shellshock
Juan Smith
Mine was similar. Came back from WWI in France and did nothing but drink and rape my great-grandma. My aunt said he started hearing voices and getting paranoid. He got in a bathtub and blew his head off with a shotgun in 61. We still have the shotgun.
Jace Smith
Calm down, dick
William Cooper
I disagree, I speak from experience. If you're talking about celebrity suicides - we only know their persona
Parker Long
That's the whiny emo kids, not the older people who just aren't coping or lose the will to live
I had a friend tell me he fucked it up (drugs and asphyxiation), woke up, was like oh well fuck it and checked into the psyche ward
I've also had friends constantly reminiscing on the glory days of high school and asking if I remember all these little things. That got alarming and I told that guy to come round and reminisce in person the day after, where he told me all about his cutting and how he was going to kill himself last night and everything.
There's probably a whole spectrum, from emotional pain through to feeling nothing, that creates a ton of variable symptoms
Leo Gomez
>really makes you think Yeah, makes me think that it's fucking bullshit that a guy who intentionally shot himself is sponging off the tax payer. VA should only be for chronic injuries sustained in combat.
Oliver Morris
My great great grandfather killed himself 30 odd years after fighting in the civil war, but I doubt it was PTSD. He got dysentery and pneumonia in Virginia and had shitty health for the rest of his life. But all things considered he was fortunate. After his health discharge his unite got BTFO
Austin Foster
underrated af
Lincoln Hernandez
I'm glad his grandpappy is dead.
Xavier Martinez
>I don't know what the signs are and am afraid someone I know might attempt suicide. I'd feel like I failed them, like I wasn't there when they needed me.
Your expectations are pretty much what it's like. A coworker killed himself once. It sucked. There was a grief counselor to talk to, but I had no clue what to say to a grief counselor.
Elijah Cruz
>WW1 lived on in his head for 40 years.
jesus, no thanks.
David Wood
t. Okinawan monkey
Jacob Miller
fucking lmao
Jaxson Nelson
Holy shit I'm fucking dying here
Carter Brooks
>my spirit animal bullies won
Connor Clark
Your family told you how you grandpa raped your grandma over and over making her his personal slut?
Jayden Gray
i've taken a variety of those depression self tests and all of them give some variation of "your depression is critical and you have suicidal thoughts you need help NOW"
what did they mean by this
Aiden Edwards
They had a name for it but it was largely misunderstood, even until vietnam people stigmatised PTSD victims and called them cowards.
Adam Jackson
>Fight in world war 1 >Enjoy 43 years of drinking and raping afterwards A life well lived.
Ayden Walker
Yeah, my aunt has issues. It was the night my sister almost died in a car crash and my aunt just started talking about him and how she could hear him yelling through her wall about how he could to beat my great-grandma's head in with a hammer any time he wanted. Most of the people in his family had problems. My family has a lot of anxiety that probably came from his branch.
Asher Johnson
Pretty hot
Ethan Brown
At that point it doesn't matter user. You factor into zero of their thoughts. They'd rather die then spend another day trying to talk to anyone about it.
Bentley Davis
>Died the day I was born
John Hill
Post pics of your gran so I can fap
Samuel Peterson
>at least 3 anons in this thread will die before they're 35
im sorry anons
Austin Gonzalez
LOL
Jace Rivera
t. /r/Sup Forums/
Elijah Rivera
>constantly reminiscing on the glory days of high school and asking if I remember all these little things
>mfw I realize that "4 touchdowns in a single game" was a cry for help and not funny at all
Nicholas Gonzalez
it aint me starts playin
Asher Brown
just like me
Tyler Edwards
>tfw someone on facebooks talks about being depressed and killing himself
I don't really know the guy, but I straight up told him I don't know how to help him and that he should get professional help. I don't know what else I can do, but I also know it's not enough.
Charles Lopez
Even then it's not guaranteed, especially if it's a small-calibre.
Eat a shotgun or something (better yet, use an exit bag) if you want to be certain. You'll have to have a closed casket funeral but if you are planning on blowing your brains out you don't want to fuck it up.
Hudson Johnson
dont worry about suicidal faggots, life has never been easier, if they cant hack it, oh well
Adam Cox
Cant wait tbqh
Lincoln Rivera
This may seem really stupid, but this is where you need to fire to guarantee death. This part of the brain controls breathing and heart rate. I realize this is awkward for a suicide, but it is the most logical.
Owen Barnes
why am i laughing at this shit
Brody Powell
If you're saying you'd have to shoot yourself from the back that's incorrect. Stick the barrel in your mouth, angle towards the back toward this big glowing white bit (cerebellum). You'll nail the primary connection of the spinal cord to your brain, so you'll lose just about all sensation immediately, and you'll take out your pons, which controls your breathing.
Leo Diaz
Using your own drawing shows how wrong this is. Guns are too big to get the proper angel from the inside of the mouth. Plus with shaking hands, much easier to go from the back of the head.
Joshua Ortiz
I should also clarify that the ponsis a large target than trying to hit the thin bundle of nerves of the spinal cord.
Parker Garcia
Isn't it easier to just not use a small caliber gun? This way you will make sure the damage is widespread so you don't need to aim precisely at the right spot.
John Howard
I'm not even going full Dick Winters or Sup Forums, just being desu. maybe you inherited his loser soul
Chase Morales
But what if the barrel slips while you try to awkwardly pull the trigger with your thumb.
The real answer here is that you need to purchase a shotgun and destroy the whole brain. It's the best way to guarantee death.
Luke Flores
Couldn't even command himself to commit suicide competently.
Jose Martinez
Placing the gun directly behind the ear should do the trick.
Sebastian Bennett
Regardless of the caliber shot placement is critical.
This guy just got a face transplant from a suicide attempt.
Zachary Martin
>Guns are too big to get the proper angel from the inside of the mouth
What are you, a little kid? Or a tiny person? Bust your teeth if you have to. You're going to die. The red line has you shooting straight back, and with a large enough caliber you'll still decimate the pons and most of the connecting nerves from the brain to the spinal cord, including the nerve responsible for normal heartrate, the vagus nerve.
Oh we're on different pages. I'm not saying shoot the brainstem directly, a bit above it. You'll fuck everything up with a 9mm or more.
>But what if the barrel slips while you try to awkwardly pull the trigger with your thumb.
Why are you using your thumb? Turn the gun upside down and put it in your mouth.
Indeed. If you REALLY want to do it, just save up for a shotgun and shells.
Not necessarily. More room for error.
Oliver Walker
Probably me. I'm 27 and I think im gonna call it quits before I hit 30. I pretty much fucked my life up and work a minimum wage job now with a nerve damaged left leg and an alcohol problem. Im thinking im gonna do the helium tank method at some point if i can't find my pistol.
Dunno but I like to imagine that we get a do over after we die.
Gabriel Thomas
we dont. We just die
Carter Phillips
>Oh we're on different pages. I'm not saying shoot the brainstem directly, a bit above it. You'll fuck everything up with a 9mm or more. But this isn't possible from inside the mouth with a 9mm. You are forced in one direction.
All I can say is all I own is a 9mm and if I commit suicide then I'm going for the back of the head. Or jumping off a very high object and trying to fly!
Andrew Perez
What happens after?
Ian Peterson
You go to hell for murdering yourself.
Daniel Morgan
I know. It's just nice to have a good thought to cling to before lights out.
Dominic Hernandez
wrong thing, you need to aim for the brain stem >The brainstem also plays an important role in the regulation of cardiac and respiratory function. It also regulates the central nervous system, and is pivotal in maintaining consciousness and regulating the sleep cycle. The brainstem has many basic functions including heart rate, breathing, sleeping, and eating. straight from wiki
John Roberts
>hell Well meme'd
Zachary Gonzalez
My man, stick three fingers in your mouth and angle it where the image shows the cerebellum/brainstem. Unless you're 4'9, your mouth can accommodate. I just stuck a 7 inch revolver's barrel in my mouth and it was no trabble angling it.
I said that in my first post, but I can see I wasn't being clear enough. I said towards the cerebellum, not at it. Second time when I say above the brainstem is so you can hit the pons and shit.
Matthew Ramirez
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Isaac Richardson
Someone who is actually suicidal won't show any signs and just do it.
Cooper Mitchell
pls be me
Kayden Thomas
>not pouring your essence into a phylactery and living forever You're not thinking big enough.
Austin Wright
That's not even close to being true. I had a friend who talked that way a lot and everyone just figured it was how he would get sometimes when drinking and he recently killed himself with heroin on purpose. Left a note and everything. Good way to go though desu
Dylan Torres
>Choking on vomit >Good way to go
Grayson Mitchell
*cringe*
Wyatt Young
Fucking trench foot
Eli Taylor
Sup Libra bro?
Adam Hall
It lived on in his head not his feet.
Jeremiah Wilson
I don't think he choked on vomit I think he just stopped breathing from respiratory depression. Then again maybe he did. Not something they would share with the public I guess.
Jason Parker
>he recently killed himself with heroin on purpose
Bentley Bailey
You'll never hit the vagus nerve with that shot, the vagus nerve goes through the latero-faringeal space ur hitting straight back still aiming to the veil of the paladar will surely kill you.
Charles Torres
Fuck off man I did anatomy and physio back to back shit's fuzzy.
Elijah Jenkins
What did he mean by this?
Jace Wood
Its alright, but you wont hit it.. I never liked anatomy but I remember alot of stuff.
Not the fella you replied to, but don't be a cunt, cunt
Evan Ramirez
>This will hurt someone
What did he mean by this?
Ayden Cruz
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Eli Rogers
I live a few minutes away from Waukegan. Sounds about right.
Charles Jackson
what is this from?
Parker Rogers
your future
Jordan Jones
The North Hollywood shootout, two guys with an ak, hk rifle, and body armor robbed a bank in LA and shot it out with police for an hour shooting like 1000 rounds, the cops couldnt take them down because of the body armor, and they fucked up like 20 cops. Police had to buy guns from a gunstore to match their firepower en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout