Communism

Explain to me what exactly is bad about communism

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I don't mind if you and your friends want to live your communism with each other. Are you going to respect other people's private property, though?

>communism
>private property

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Generally it leads to the state (and there will be a state, even if ancoms say it's not a state), oppressing everyone, and mismanaging everything.

Starvation is common, most of ths population is poor, and human rights abuses are brutal and frequent.

Go look at Cambodia, China, North Korea and Venezuela.

>prosperity

Good spook

>be an industrialized country when it was socialist
>now it is a whored out shithole

>everything I don't like is a meme
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>Mexican intellectuals

:0)

>Anyone who doesn't want to work can just not work without any consequences.
>Few people will start working and creating free shit lmao for every single person in the world, just because it's natural human behaviour.
>Apparently natural human behaviour is not sitting on your ass as long as you can still get free shit.

They were a shithole under the Soviets too, m80

See also: The Holodomor

In reality, people are not very revolutionary

Corruption and mismanagement run rampant

Communism goes against human nature itself. Turns out people really like freedom and owning property. It will never work in any form.

But he's right

>someone makes a thread on /vr/ asking about games where you kill communists
>pinkos show up squeeling of ass damage and "it's never been tried" and "buh capitalism is like worse tho"

Thin skinned cucks.

>1st wave feminist
>21st century
TRIGGERED

>Ukraine wasn't a shithole under the Soviets

you can kill Marx in that new Assassins Creed game

But he used a meme so that means his argument is disproven

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Nothing in theory. It just hasn't been practised correctly yet. Look to Star Trek Federation for the ideal of communism.

what is the argument?

Ukraine was not any better under the USSR

It indoctrinates children into committing violence for irresponsible, racist adults, just like the Trotskyists in pic related.

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Communism threads are basically bait and slide material at this point, since it's been debunked so many times.

>Trotskyists
at least the alt right knows that those morons are trots

>Holodomor

It's like Holocaust: Hohol edition
It was everywhere, but only cucked hohols screaming around about it.

At the same time during USSR Ukraine was one of the most advanced regions.

They had shitload goods after USSR collapse, but they literally destroyed everything, cuz USA told them to do so. Pic related.

>At the same time during USSR Ukraine was one of the most advanced regions.

lol

based ivan comes to the rescue))

On paper sounds great, in reality is impossible.

Marx had too much confidence in the good nature of humans around power.

Ukraine was a shithole at all times of course but during the period of the USSR they had space and heavy industry

>all the disadvantages of capitalism
>none of the positives
>HEY COMRADE, LOOK, WE FREED SOCIETY FROM CAPITALISM

Prove me wrong, burger. They had nuclear power plants, huge amount of nukes, our military top tech, numerous amount of research facilities.
They even had prototype of a fucking cold fusion reactor "Tokomak" (forgot number of model).
But after USSR they went full "USA GIBE ME DAT" mode, and did whatever the West told em.

Oh no I broke my imaginary chains and now I have real chains oh noooooo!

Oh fuck, AssCreed is finally interesting!

Don't be so thinskinned.

It doesn't work, and until it's proven not to work, it has to imprison or murder all the people saying it doesn't work.

Eastern European jewish communists destroyed my country. And what do the kaffers propose to unfuck the country's shit and get us out of this fucking mess? More fucking communism paid for courtesy of whitey who pays the taxes. I guess, according to them, we haven't tried that fabled true communism just yet.

Anyway, I will make it my personal duty in the next global war to exterminate every communist I meet with a bullet to the head. Hopefully I can live that long.

>Anyway, I will make it my personal duty in the next global war to exterminate every communist I meet with a bullet to the head. Hopefully I can live that long.

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The baltics were on germans level back then. Ukraine had/has many Industry, built fom the soviets.

Why do communists pretend they aren't like the Nazis?

>The baltics were on germans level back then

look at the old ussr

Well, this shit fail in every single country it is implemented, so we don't need to know exact the reasons of it, we need to know only that it entirely sucks.

B-BUT IT HASN'T BEEN TRIED THOUGH

It's a Bolshevik scam to enslave the working class and seize the means of production for a regime that holds all of the political power.

Here you go, Tallinn in 60's.

And one more.

You know what's bad?

IT WILL NEVER WORK

Communism stops when human traits begin

based ivan striking again

Nice meme, but you don't know shit.

Niggers wrecked my country after the SJWs handed it over to a group of terrorists in bed with the commies. Even now, the white minority under threat of genocide is the only thing keeping this failed corrupt shit hole afloat, and the niggers still blame us for the problems they caused. They took my dad's farmland and redistributed it to the dirty kaffers, and we're facing food shortages because dumb niggers don't know how to cultivate the land. The niggers are too stupid to realise they are worse off now than they even were under whitey's rule.

Mexicans are clearly no better than niggers if you believe in this retarded ideology. Your country is shit because you have always been shit. You want to take over the Southern USA and make it shit like Mexico because your people are a fucking cancer. Always have been and always will.

It has failed and brought tragedy to every nation that has adopted it.

It totally fails to address mental illness or corruption in general and is unrealistic in other ways as well.

It's unworkable and always has been.

Marx couldn't formulate a solution for shit, but he saw the problems in what was already being done around him well enough - but when he starts talking about his idea of a solution you can see he doesn't know shit about what the underlying problems were as he failed to address them.

If you don't have a plan to keep things ethical then your plans will never work.

This is why the world is shit user

In a mostly automated society, there won't be as much work to do by humans. People will work to create, which is essential to human nature.

Venezuela and China aren't communists.

>an empire who colonized countries talking about bringing tragedy

Venezuela was a shithole long before Chavez. That's why people voted him into office. The issues people love to blame on Chavez actually started in the 80s and 90s.

This. Many people have a huge double standard where they rail about muh 200 billion but think that colonialism and imperialism dindu nuffin.

It's an ideology that's rooted in Jewish supremacy, and destroys culture and history in order for everyone to be exactly the same. Leon Trotsky invented the word racist to silence Slavophiles in the Soviet Union who wanted to preserve their culture, history, and religion.

China isn't communist anymore, really, but they killed like 50 million of their people when they were.

Also you can't just say Venezuela isn't communist just because they're doing badly.

The LTV is wrong.

t. US state department

That's blatantly false.

>It's an ideology that's rooted in Jewish supremacy
Which, of course, is why communists then treated the jews like shit.

Actually the whole continent was under rapid economic expansion. That lead to confidence going in debt. Then currencies went to shit for global reasons such as dollar cut its link from gold, debt was impossible to pay, Mexico defaulted, and so on.

Chavez took the opportunity of crisis to blame it all on capitalism and oligarchy, people believed him.

His "free stuff" socialist plan was even somewhat successful when the whole system was fueled by selling oil, and taxing the hell out of the rich.

But of course oil prices dropped eventually, then it wasn't a good idea to rape industry and commerce with taxes, and the whole thing collapsed under its own weight.

Now they have no money, they even ripped off plenty of Uruguayan companies who sent them food in exchange for oil. No one in their right mind would invest in USA, where Maduro will just expropriate your investments whenever he wants.

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>B-b-but it wasnt real communism!

no one in their right mind would invest in Venezuela (not USA, sorry)

I would totally invest in USA if I had any money

And yet we are still around today unlike the soviet union. Also not an argument.

At least there were no 5h corn flour lines

Every communist movement says that the previous ones weren't "the real communism", so will we repeat infinitely the deaths and misery of communism?

Labor theory of value is fucking retarded, fight me gommies

Before UN agreements and shit it was constantly one power conquering another power.

Even the little tribes constantly attacked and raped each other.

At least empires that took over settled it at last.

Until you realize that there's an objective difference between someone like Salvador Allende and fucking Pol Pot or Stalin.

I hope they are making the real communist in hell.

Give him the power and I'm sure he'll try for the highscore.

Hello my fellow communists

Communism is an utopia, so literally nothing.
However, socialism that aims to reach communism has in practice failed more or less.
It's internationalist, it destroys culture, it's materialist, it leads to great abuse of power, and so on and so on.

looks comfy as fuck tbqh fampai

>no property rights
Utopia of a madman maybe.

Rare?

What you don't see is the people lining up for bread, and then going home without bread.

Not rare, just negro

serbia >>>> montenegro

Problem with communism is that you put all resources of a country in the hands of a control freak who doesn't have the ABILITY nor the NECESSITY to administrate effectively the country.

All a communist leader needs to do is keep his people UNcommunicated from the rest of the world... and avoid mass starvation... and even then they fail to do that.

Fun fact
>Two communist leaders who killed MORE people than the holocaust: Mao & Stalin.

>Economy
I agree with Marx's economic analysis of Capitalism; but the model Marxist use to replace is inherently flawed, the concept a few men ina room with calculators can accuratley predict market shifts and set quotas and prices is retarded and can't match market fluidity.

>The use of a Vanguard
Vanguard parties inherentley slide towards either revisionism or totalitarianism, such is the issue in any single party state; any Marxian Socialism that rejects authroitarian powers or the state is destined to die to countre revolutionary feeling.

>Philisophy
Although his theory of historical materialism is pretty sound; it entirely ignores the concept of ethnic and cultural influences on a society; nor did Marx ever foresee mass migration to the west that would undermine the inherent powers of Western culture that foster change in a society.

>Superiority of Post-Roman cultures
The precense of a Romanised culture in Europe has allowed continued innovation and redrawing of the social map so to speak, where as other civilisation have always inherentley stagnated even ones so advanced as the proto-feudal societies of Asia which achieved civilisation even before Rome. Any non European nation has had to have civilisation forced on them, either though direct colonisation or Matthew Perry's expedition.

Total Communist Body Count: 149,469,610

People's Republic of China
Body Count: 73,237,000
1949-Present (57+ years and counting)

USSR Flag Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Body Count: 58,627,000
1922-1991 (69 years)

Russia Flag Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic
Body Count: 3,284,000
1918-1922 (4 years)

North Korea Flag Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Body Count: 3,163,000
1948-Present (58+ years and counting)

Cambodia Flag Cambodia
Body Count: 2,627,000
1975-1987 (12 years)

Afghanistan Flag Democratic Republic of Afghanistan
Body Count: 1,750,000
1978-1992 (14 years)

Vietnam Flag Vietnam
Body Count: 1,670,000
1975-Present (30+ years and counting)

Ethiopia Flag People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
Body Count: 1,343,610
1974-1991 (17 years)

Yugoslavia Flag Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
Body Count: 1,072,000
1945-1992 (47 years)

Chinese Soviet Republic Flag Chinese Soviet Republic
Body Count: 700,000
1931-1934 (3 years)

Fucking commies ruined my life and my country for decades to come. They should be shot on sight.

Just read about what communism is.
Basically, everyone gets what they need.

Are you ok down there? Can you fend for yourself?

Mine as well. Communism ideology should be prohibited as is nazism.

And I need my property to be private.

What now, Karl?

>Stateless Classless Society

>Oh wait, classes form naturally

>So we need to stop them from forming

>So we need a coercive state

>But we're stateless, so...

Communism is a self contradictory ideology. It literally cannot exist.

its against human nature

>Basically, everyone gets what they need.

Yeah, after doing 5h lines, and that's being optimistic that theres actually something to "get".

I don't think any ideology should be outlawed (because that's communistic, ironically), rather, it feels like people aren't giving commies the shit they deserve.

Ok, so Nazis are evil, we have Wolfenstein, but where is my vidya where I kill pinko scum? I think it's weird that commies aren't shat on as much as nazis are shat on.

communism is against god and nature. believe me son, i've seen it with my own eyes

That's communism in reality, he's talking about a fantasy land where communism doesn't lead to widespread suffering.