Would a latin american union with a single currency work? yes no why?

Would a latin american union with a single currency work? yes no why?

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no, too big

no, too poor

yes but only if its backed by resources of all nations in communion and these are protected from foreign interests, and then with our own influence we force other countries to trade with it. for example, trade venezuela's oil, or passing through the canal. both are done with us dollars today

no, too much back-stabbing

isn't there already a south american union which is like EU-lite?

>Would a latin american union
No, too culturally different. We're only similar to Venezuelans, Panamanians and Costa Ricans.
> single currency work
That'd be our demise. Look at the EU as an example

>again with that stupid list
autistic fuck

There are two
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Why would the Pacific Pumas want to join Mierdasur and the albANOs?

i'm pretty sure you'd all end up killing each other if that happened. you guys have too many chimpouts

I don't want an union like this.
I'm not racist but I think that Argentina is racially and culturally superior to the rest of Latin America, and neither of us will benefit from being in a Latino union,

Maybe...Chile and Uruguay are aight, we can unify with them.

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>Pacific Pumas
cringe

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yeah Mercosur, but i don know if theres free movement of persons, anyone from mercosur can explain?

Regulations fuck our chance for economic growth

spics are too dumb for that, brazil is literally only good country in whole americas

So why not Bolivia and peru? well,they're racially similar as Argentina
Unions are superior

It's the reality my man. We are not close in the slightest to either Mexicans, the caribbean islands, Amerindian Andean countries or the southern cone and would rather not be associated with them

Not feasible because very different political/ economic systems.

>I'm not racist but I think that Argentina is racially and culturally superior
Cuba and Brazil are more European than your country if that's what you imply with being """""""racially superior""""""", my deluded friend

this

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Too much poverty in México ,Bolivia, and CA

i meant an union with the complete package including free movement persons goods and everything like the european union
i dont think the mercosur allows you to do that? can a bolivian just go and work in argentina or brazil?

>can a bolivian just go and work in argentina or brazil?
yeah they play those little dumb flutes on the subway and the beaches all the time

But Brazil and America are racially and culturally diverse and are better than Argentina.

there are free moviment in mercosul, we dont need passport to cross the borders

>The South American poorso

no. there is a failsafe within every hispanic that prevents them from establishing a long term functioning society. prone to fail quicker the bigger it is

>can a bolivian just go and work in argentina or brazil?
Well, they do that all the time. Also, it is not a good idea

Thank you Slovenian brother.

they teach this to children, ensure future voters to destroy a country

Yes

Too many backstabbing wh*Tes bringing down the prospect. Wh*Te geYEScide first, unite later.

Why always Mexicans with the "Latin union" bullshit? Fuck off.

thres no such thing as pacific "pumas" or tigers. theyre just a bunch of extraction economies that havent inveswted at all in technology, the same way asians did. maybe mexishits could be considered one, but they always have some limp limb. either ways all of them are banana countries and the puma bs is a bad meme

also, this is why a lot of venezuelans are coming here, they literally just need to walk throught the border in attempt to get food

They somehow think that they would rule it

Kek.
Why is the capitalista room the color of socialismo, tho?

California is not that poor.

Good post

kek you're delusional my congolombianito ;}

nice to hear that other countrymen think the same, but personally i dont think we'd "rule it" no chance, we're too far away

but except brazil all the other countries in SA are way too small i mean brazil has the same population as all of you combined

>CA
Is Centroamérica, sudacas shitholes like you'r shitty canal

Why don't Brazil?
We are latin americans too.

S

>socialismo

Me on the right.

>They somehow think that they would rule it
They would be the biggest economy by far. Mexico's GDP is bigger than Chile's+Argentina's+Colombia's which would be the the 3 next biggest economies. To put it into perspective Mexico would have more economic weight proportionally than Germany does in the EU

> think
we would

>That is some broken english if I ve ever seen it.

Not really, since 70% of their economy depends on murrika, mexico is fairly irrelevant to latin america, aside from media mexico hasnt been relevant for most of latin america since the early 90's

so we can rule it with no one to oppose us (evil laugh) nah its cuz we all speak spanish, and its way to big already adding you would double size and population

you can join in phase 2
yeah sure eternal second place to brazil and mexico, maybe third cuz it looks like chile will surpass you more sooner than later

Brazil or the US for that matter would rule us all by that logic

keep lurking m8. You're more Amerindian and they're more African while being slightly more Euro. Now comparing African vs Amerindian achievements is a battle you don't want to enter

and yours in commodities,

Exelent post

For starters Mexico doesn't have free trade with SA countries outside of the pacific ones and they are more than half of the GDP of that union and the exports. SA countries are really poor and little

>chile will surpass you more sooner than later
That's something that won't ever happen. If anything it's be us as we already surpassed them for a brief period back in 2014 and it is just a matter of time before we head full speed and surpass them for good. It's a numbers game: more people + faster growth. It's just bound to happen

And how does that change what i'm saying? mexico doesnt matter to latinamerica. Chileans are not pretending to be important or relevant, Mexicans and Chicanos are.

They are not there in OPs map. And both Brazil and the US have huge control over your countries irl

Brazil doesn't have any kind of control or even influence over Colombia, keep talking out your ass stupid fat chicano

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Why would Argentina risk getting even more latino rapefugees when we dont even trade with you all except brazil

In my country's case ---> US: yes (both main import and export partner). Brazil: despite sharing a border it's like they don't exist. We never formed a strong bond and hold very little influence here

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Argentina has higher birthrates than Colombia and a way lower emigration rate. Also it has twice the GDP of Colombia. Colombia surpassing Argentina is nigh impossible

No, Brazil would, they'd become the Germany of the union sooner or later. While granted that may change in the near future, pending NAFTA re-negotiations, we are too far involved with the US to have much of an active role so we'd be much like the pre-Brexit UK in the EU.

Having said that you do need us to counterbalance Brazil if you want a real union.

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I said Brazil or the US. Brazil basically rules countries like Uruguay or Paraguay for example. Colombia is a US colony

Brazil, Mexico, Colombia, and Argentina in 2050

>chicanos
Wut??
Mexicans don't care. but our goverment yes all our shitty media is in your countries ,Other products tho

>twice the GDP
If you're talking nominal you probably understand that it literally fluctuates daily and our currency lost more than 50% of its value in the last 3 years while Argentina's currency was pegged to the Dollar. As I told you, for a bried period during 2014 our economy was larger due to these fluctuations and the gap keeps getting smaller and smaller as time goes by. Their birth rate is higher true, as they get immigrants from Bolivia, Paraguay and Peru.... now take a look at those countries and draw your own conclusions. Meanwhile we get immigrants from Venezuela (which are just like us, so no cultural shock) and American retirees spending their neetbux

>Argentina has higher birthrates
That's thnaks to paraguay and bolivia.

Even with free trade nothing would change, don't you get it? Mexico is cancer for America and America is cancer for mexico, Mexico will get backstabbed by the American industry, their cars will be too expensive compared to the chinese and indian factories eventually, the only chance mexico has is to change that extreme dependency, free trade has never been a good thing.

yeah i know that we dont matter, we're too far away
,but i think we both win from a closer relationship (between mexico and SA) dont you think
why do argentinians like to act all mighty and superior isnt your inflation so bad you all go to chile and uruguay to buy basic commodities

Brazil superpower

No
Criollos and their internal power struggles.

Hmmm?

>That's thnaks to paraguay and bolivia.
Lol, they love to throw this argument but they don't realize that the 2nd and 3rg generation are already Argentinian and the pseudo-European urbanites still don't consider them as such

>,but i think we both win from a closer relationship (between mexico and SA) dont you think
Sure, and that's the point, i'm not shitting in mexico, i'm saying that mexico needs to start separating itself from murrika.
Free trade with murrika is good for the short run, but eventually fucks every country in the world. Even Canada, they went from the most developed country in the world to just another first world country.

>but they don't realize that the 2nd and 3rg generation

Boliguayos have kids at age 12 so sure.

Argentina's birthrates are higher. That doesn't take into account inmigration. And even then I don't know how a shithole like Colombia can be so arrogant about its country while fucking Peru has more chances of surprassing Colombia than Colombia has of surpassing Argentina. Colombia has a huge inmigration rate. Your country has entire cities worth of expats in Spain,The US,Chile and Panama and the trend is not changing

>mexico doesnt matter to latinamerica
It's like you almost mean that to sound spiteful. Sure, Canada, Japan or even Germany and Spain are far more important to us in terms of trade than any of you, with the possible exception of Brazil, that still doesn't mean we are important in terms of culture or geopolitics, or that the health of the Mexican economy doesn't impact your countries.

In terms of integration the Pacific alliance is de facto far more functional than Mercosur or Unasur. I'm not saying we are in any way important for your everyday lives, but right now a good bit of your future is invested in our success.

t. sudaca in mexico

panama is the only country that can lead such a union

>Peru has more chances of surprassing Colombia than Colombia has of surpassing Argentina
No dude, check ---> . It's a non-stop ride for us from here
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> I don't know how a shithole like Colombia can be so arrogant about its country
I don't care what the media have said about this country in the past and how much they have shit on us ruining our reputation, but the reality is that expats that come here not wanting to leave, recent trends in immigration and lower emigration rates say otherwise

> Your country has entire cities worth of expats in Spain,The US,Chile and Panama
Not gonna deny that we have a sizable diaspora in those countries but "entire cities" as you put is a bit of an exaggeration. That's not a thing even in border states of Venezuela, which has historically been the largest recipient of Colombian migrants along with the US (especially NY and FL) and those states are renowned for having larger diasporas like those of Cubans and Puerto Ricans respectively.

So, a mexican.

wheree is this from

Actually, Nicaragua is the best option

El Panameño ve estadisticas y se excita jaja

The US has almost 1 M Colombians. Spain has around 300k and growing. Panama and Chile are getting invaded by Colombians. If so many people are leaving Colombia it must be for something don't you think? The cpuntries that you shitted about (Peru,Paraguay and Bolivia) actually have lower emigration rates than your country. Just face it. Colombia is closer to Peru as a country than it is to Argentina. There is no shame in that

Price Waterhouse Coopers

why would you think im from south america, im from the north (of mexico)

Most of those people have been living in those countries for more than a decade. Colombia really had a large emigration in the 90s and it is estimated that 5 million Colombians live abroad. Also, we aren't close to neither Peru or Argentina, we're our thing.

how autistic can someone be...

>implying there's an equivalency
kys sudaca

Just educating our Venezuelan friendo

Aproximatly 1.2 Millions Colombians left Colombia between 00's and the 05's. Like seriously stop posting. Your country has the largest diaspora in all of South America

> Aproximatly 1.2 Millions Colombians left Colombia between 00's and the 05's
So? Those people send back remittances which help us all and those figures are from 12-17 years ago, Are you proving my point?

Losing 1.2 million people in 5 years lowers the GDP a lot. I don't know how you can't see it

These countries (Peru, Paraguay and Bolivia) have much higher emigration rates than Colombia.

The only LatAm countries with lower emigration rates than Colombia are Brazil, Chile and Argentina. And maybe Panama and CR.

Its the most populated South American country after Brazil, dumbass. Only that Brazilians migrate within its own country mostly (being like a continent on itself).

Some of them have returned and the others have been replaced by now. There are 1 million + Venezuelans here