Is porn harmless or are there real societal consequences from it?

Is porn harmless or are there real societal consequences from it?

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It depends what you mean. What kind? In what context? What kind of societal consequences. Certain kinds in certain contexts have positive consequences on society.

If it were harmless I seriously doubt the Jews would have such a large hand in the production and promotion of pornography.

I've been following craigslist personals for years now.

In the MW4M it used to always be a normal couple looking for a guy to spitroast the girl, or maybe a couple looking for a bi-sexual guy because the husband was a fag.

Now it is literally all cuckoldry. Really started to notice it in 2014, now that is practically all you can find. I don't think it is a coincidence.

Beyond that, no, free pussy isn't good. Pussy is a commodity that should be earned. Free pussy is basically welfare for your dick. It will make you lazy as hell.

There are real consequences.

Also one of the biggest conspiracies of the modern age is that regular (daily) masturbation has no negative effects.

It reduces testosterone levels in men, as does viewing pornography. When you jack off to a porn, the centers of your brain that tell you to be a manly man and go out and conquer, plunder, and mate with women become satisfied.

In a sense, they've been tricked. This can lead to less enjoyment from actual intercourse, and reduced testosterone, which subconsciously makes you less attractive to females, less dominant in conversation, and less able to build muscle.

porn is harmful, but there's worse stuff out there
masturbation w/ porn is healthy, but don't get too obsessed with it

I only started watching porn with my gf a few years ago and suddenly realized why a lot of guys cant be fucked dating and everyone is insecure about every little thing sexually and thinks rough sex, anal sex and casual sex are normal

it really is top degeneracy and of course an almost entirely jewish industry

porn is bad

I'm curious if porn usage in general has negative impacts in society, like bad attitudes towards women and sex

You might lose taste for women that actually want to fuck you, also may get insecure about your dick size, may get less motivated to work, since not needing money to empty your balls. Also you may generally lose respect for women, seeing how much of a whore women in porn are, and you may treat women in bed ruffer, seeing in porn they can take it.

>watching porn with my gf
>with my gf
wtf, why?

No.

And nofap does nothing aside from restoring penile sensitivity.

Of course it's not good. Just look at the effects it's had on Sup Forums users

It's inevitable so it's moot. What's harmful is stigmatizing what is essentially a normal bodily function.

it's the worst, but what are you going to do? go out and talk to people? yuk

This.

He's full cuck mode. Soon she'll ask him to have a threesome with another guy and then it's all downhill from there.

It poisons young minds.

>go out and conquer, plunder, and mate with women
That is more dangerous than the consequences of regular penile exercise you describe. Evolution is a mysterious business.

I think it gave guys unrealistic expectations of girls bodies (fake breast, 17 BMI) and also gave women unrealistic expectations of guy's bodies (people are shocked that the average penis size is 5.5 inches)

It teaches you how to be a cuck by watching instead of doing. The justification of many cucks is that they feel like they are watching a real life porn but really are just letting some nigger knock up their wife.

Men need more porn and less attention to women in the short term.

Women are able to coast on their sex appeal. This does not build good characters.

>casual sex are normal
It is.
Everyone just uses shit like tinder for it. That's not because of porn, that's because everyone wants sex.

This guy offers an interesting and unique perspective:
youtube.com/watch?v=OUk3RPWvvtc

Constantly jacking off causes anxiety via low T

You need libido from testosterone to override anxiety and depression

Ever since Maddox fired Dick. His show quality declined severely.

Dick Masterson, if you ever read this: I love you, man.

Having a wank every now and then isn't bad but abusing porn is certainly harmful.

1. Porn always tries to outdo itself, it normalizes deviant behavior. I heard a few skanks complaining about guys trying to fuck them in the ass or jizz on their face on the first date.

2. It takes time, energy and focus that could be better used. Porn is ubiquitous it's tempting to just jack off in your room rather than doing something more productive.

3. It is a cop out, a way to avoid meeting actual girls, making them like you enough to let you fuck them.

Are you a proud boy?

pron is bad like alcohol is bad.

used responsibly nothing is wrong, abuse it and you suffer and can possibly die.

pounding alcohol destroys your health and liver and can kill you slowly or you can chug and die from poisoning.

chaining porn makes you desire more and more fucked up shit to get you off to the points you might mutilate or suffocate yourself and can die from infection, aids, or suffocation.

should you be watching people chained up and electrocuted with nails put through their tits at 12? no. Should you drink alcohol at 12? no. Should you be able to decided for yourself at a responsible age? yes.

tl;dr do what u want nigga anything in excess is bad.

>fuck them in the ass and jizz on their face in the first date

That is fucking hilarious. I actually lol'd. I imagine an army of clueless Indian men taking women out on dates and expecting the date to end with the girl on her knees ready to get blasted in the face like they saw on the internet.

In reality, women want life to be like Gilmore Girls. They want to live in a Cape Cod-tier town and wear cute sweaters and have a flirty on-off romance with a masculine man in a flannel shirt, and throw sex in the missionary position in there.

yeah.

the common denominator of Sup Forums users is porn and internet addiction.

it's not a coincidence most of our lives are shite

It's good if you don't have a gf
>Zero risk of STD
>Zero risk of unplanned pregnancy
>Don't waste money on hookers

Of course the ideal is to have a hot trustworthy gf to bang and blow you

>le porn lowers testosterone in any remotely important way meme
examine.com/faq/does-ejaculation-affect-testosterone-levels/

Furthermore, most betas are already betas. If anything, having them not go after a woman is better than having them do so and become beta orbiters (artificially inflating the female sense of self-worth, and in supply-and-demand terms, flooding the market artificially.)

>be me
>porn hoarder degenerate, own about 4Tb of all kinds of shit
>started collecting about 8 years ago and haven't stopped since

>fetishes come and go, but the worst I've steeped down to is preteen jailbaits, incest, and rape
>been noticing a growing trend recently
>when I started, I was into milfs, big butts, silicone tits and pumped up teens
>when I continued, it was natural girls, the milkier tits and smaller the ass, the better
>when I still continued, it evolved into cute girls, clothed girls, kissing, cuddling and groping porn

These days when I fap, it's often to facebook selfies, fully clothed, just smiling in the picture. I only look at naked chicks when I'm really fucking horny and just want sex, but your regular everyday fap consists of face pics.

I almost had a girlfriend once, and we exchanged a lot of pics, non-nudes. I collected every single pic she sent me and fucking bursted to her facepics more than a hundred times.

tl;dr my degeneracy led me to fap to facebook profile pics, I like it more than watching porn. Even when I started with porn and nothing but porn. I still have the collection and still collect stuff, but it's being slowly overriden with softporn facebook and instagram pics.
What the fuck is wrong with me?

It harms a small segment of people who ruin their libidos and don't procreate because of it.

90+% of porn watchers are fine.

Does anyone use porn as a means to alleviate anxiety? I rarely jack off when I'm horny, but if I feel really stressed out it's about the only thing that calms me down.

people on the internet totally overestimate the importance of test. yes it's important, but it's not everything.

PMO fucks with your head as much as it fucks with anything else, both in terms of dopamine sensitivity and on a psychological level.

same here
i went through nudes but I'd always go back to clothed.
It's more interesting, because you end up having to use more imagination, which in turn could make it even more satisfying than an actual nude.
you're fine man

Lots of girls are just submissive and will let guys do this with a little pressure. A few of my friends do shit like this all the time and they aren't any happier for it. After they cum all good feeling is gone and they just try to get out of the situation as fast as possible.

how do I distinguish causality from adventuity?

everything is a meme

fapping is healthy and makes you more productive and calm member of a society

if yuo jerk you are literally Jesus 2.0 sacrificing your genes for the society

so grab you dick and double click

man at least your evolution was straight
i was from anime > futa > shemale > gay
im now so fucked up with my porn

The Gospel of user.

Don't let the welfare dick state make you weak!

once I fapped to absolutely nothing at all.
I literally stared at the floor with a blank mind and fapped until I actually came, no fantasy whatsoever too.
god I'm a fucking chimp

But grills have absolutely no idea how long 5 inches actually is so its all good

A population is at a 2:2.10 population replacement rate.

10% of men no longer have a sex drive due to pornography.

The population rate is now 2:1.89

I wonder who would try to get our population to naturally decrease... Really makes you think.... :^)

lol japan's population rate is fucking negative.
with all that hentai they aren't even bothering to fuck their own women

it is a means of genocide

it really fucks you up in the head

society is evil so it kills society

you sacrifice society for the good of society

humans were a mistake probably

do you know another animal literally destroying the whole planet because it just likes it?

during communism we were using a single plastic bag till it was completely broken

now they produce heaps of shit just to satisfy their """""needs"""""

right so check this out
right now, sitting in a car, probably stuck in a bit of traffic, you know big city living and all that

He has just finished work at a office or warehouse or supermarket it dont really make much fucking difference just trading time for money

On his way out of work he says goodbye to sara working at the front desk (a spicy little number)
he jokingly asks if shes got any plans for the weekend "oh not much just hang with the boyfriend i guess"

A slight chuckle is all he can mange as he turns to the exit , a rage so pure and intense like gouts of flame spike into his soul all he can think about as he walks to his car is violently beating and raping the stupid whore sara fucking dumb bitch ill fuck the life out of her he thinks has he brings his 1993 honda civic to life

he is on his way home now where soon he will lock all the doors, close all the blinds then put on his $10,000 usd pink and blue wolf furrie costume

and spend the rest of the night shoving bigger and more complex looking dildos up his arse, stretching out his urethra with a ballpoint pen and masterbating to child porn all live on webcam

this is the real world, people like that exist and worse they vote for hillary

all interpretation is lost just under the surface, can you tell the difference between a smile and a crocodile? are you sure? am not.

this is the real world, a world of illusions

I want you to watch one of those girlfriend roleplay ASMRs. That's basically what pornography is, except it is also intended for you to orgasm from. So not only are you making a pathetic artificial representation of sex, you're also tricking your mind into craving it.

A society of fake-sex-addicted men and women is more easily controlled and subverted than any other society.

>Muh test

I really want this meme to die, there are other hormones in the human body, these all interact with each other meaning that it isn't as simple and as linear as "more test = more manly" or whatever the fuck you faggots seem to think.

Jews just do it cause it makes a shit ton of money for them.

greed is good, lust is good, lies are good, disinformation is good, chaos is good, hedonism is good

all the old books were wrong, now we know THE truth

youtube.com/watch?v=8tekqmv3IVo

I started watching porn on Kazaa back in like 2002. Anyone else care to post their fetish development

>non-nude/playboy
>Female masturbation
>handjobs
>fucking and facials
>bukkake
>vomiting
>scat

it's like I need to seek out increasingly deviant fetishes to get off

Just think for two seconds. If half the population didn't need to buy groceries or pay to eat at a restaurant, would that affect the food industry at all?

Is 2D still ok?

>I've been following craigslist personals for years now.In the MW4M it used to always be a normal couple looking for a guy to spitroast the girl, or maybe a couple looking for a bi-sexual guy because the husband was a fag.Now it is literally all cuckoldry.
It sounds like it was always cuckoldry under a different name desu senpai.

But maybe we started jacking off all the time because our lives were shit and not the other way around? Seems like the more reasonable conclusion; if you're feeling bad you'll do more of what makes you feel good.

ASMR role play is some of the strangest shit I've seen. I'll watch them scratch Christmas cards all day though.

the problem with all the nofappers is they think just quitting porn will let them take control of their lives.
Porn use isn't the cause of all your problems, just a symptom of it, quitting it can have some results, but won't change much if you don't get at the underlying causes

I don't know what is wrong with you m8.

I've been jacking off just a bit longer and my tastes are still mostly vanilla.

I do remember being nauseous the first time I saw an erect dick that wasn't mine online, but now I see dicks every day so there's that.

always

no its just a meme
without porn rape would skyrocket

It's fun to listen to, sure, but my argument about the roleplays still stands.

If you think girlfriend ASMR is weird/creepy, but still masturbate to pornography, then you're a hypocrite. I'm not accusing you specifically, of course, this is more of a general statement.

Hey cuckface I was putting it in simple terms as I am a simple man.

I can tell you something from experience: I am much much more likely to smash a new PR having abstained from masturbation for one week, then I am having jerked off every day.

In fact, when I jerk off to porn every day my gym performances suffers noticeably, I become discouraged, and it is harder to make gains.

Btw, you still aren't leaving the EU, so you might want to get that straightened out before you talk shit.

I don't know if it's degenerate or not but it cured my insomnia.

He asked about negative impacts.

Thanks greatest ally for that helpful tip

there is no negative impact to porn, its just that boomers and feminists keep attacking porn and masturbation so man will settle with woman and care about them more.

woman selling their body and men fucking them, this is the most natural it can get

My fucking sides

>there is no negative impact to porn
That flag...

Jesus doesn't approve of porn and thats all you need to know

ABSOLUTELY SINFUL

What if I just masturbate and don't watch porn? Will I be okay? I'm trying to go NoFap or at least LessFap but I easily gave up porn. I just use my imagination while masturbating.

(((you)))

i study the human body for a living, yes others are important, but test is NO.1 in making a man a true man. Maximise as much as you can.

>Pussy is a commodity that should be earned
Spoken like a woman desu.

JUST

enjoy not being able to get your dick up when you actually fuck.

your brain has forced you to go to extremes now, a normal girl and normal sex won't cut it for you.

For several reasons. Pages could be written about why. Consider this scenario: Two people are screwing in a room next to you. If they didn't mind would you watch and masturbate?

there is no conspiracy

you either pay to watch people fucking
or you pay to fuck a woman

we need masturbation and masturbation products because the truth is not every average joe can get laid, and even then men can choose between fucking a landwhale or watching porn. thank god underprivileged men have that option. it stabilizes the pussy market and make the fat bitches improve themselves, it also makes the pretty bitches improve themselves. without it the market would explode with desperate horny guys willing to pay any sum of money for any kind of pussy

>blowjob
>titjob
>pov

the end

yeah i think of porn like alcohol or cigars, it will kill you, but will make your life more bearable

Watching porn since 7 years old made me bisexual. Progression:
>pictures of boobs
>videos of normal male female intercourse
>anal videos
>cream3.14
>anal cream3.14
>double penetration
>double penetration in the same hole
>dp same hole with cream3.14
>triple penetration with cream3.14
>girl eating out male asshole
>trannies
>twinks
>hairy muscled guys
>hairy chubby musclefat guys
>hairy chubs
>dirty man scent sniffing
>dirty gay rimming
>pissfuck (fill boipucci with piss then squirt it out)
>shitfuck (slight layer of poop on dick while fucking)
>30+ gay cream3.14 load squirt out

>you either pay to watch people fucking
>or you pay to fuck a woman

>No traditional monogamous option
>That flag

he is right. in todays society you practically pay for a womens existence and get sex in return

if you can find a righteous upstanding woman and raise a nice family go ahead.
im saying not everyone can, not everyone will.

>bikini models
>softcore
>girls kissing
>lesbian breast sucking
>lesbian ass eating

Calm down faggot, anyway it's surprisingly hard to find some actual science on what happens to test levels after masturbation, but I managed to find one:

>The plasma levels of all steroids were significantly increased after masturbation, whereas steroid levels remained unchanged in the control study.

joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/70/3/439.short

The literal opposite of what you're claiming. Any gains you're seeing is likely due to some conformation bias.

Just remember this, we used to build with asbestos, make pencils filled with lead, and doctors would prescribe cigarettes to cure ailments.

If we can ever loosen (((their))) grip, it will become apparent very shortly after that jerking off to fucking cuck porn every day is in fact VERY UNHEALTHY.

The evidence is already overwhelming. If you don't believe me, go 10 days without masturbation and porn and make your own conclusions.

> Implying you have the self restraint to go 10 days without porn, yet you argue it hasn't affected your physiological chemistry.

Because people tend to become more degenerate like him when they start watching porn.

First you watch normal thing like lesbian, then a men who fuck a woman you want yourself(unofficial cuckhold), then you continue to watch porn until you reach the vilest form of degeneracy (zoophilia, gay, trans, cuckhold(official), scat, etc)

Keeps all of you faggots from reproducing, so I'd say it's a win/win.

>VERY UNHEALTHY

are you a doctor? probably not.
the more testosterone you produce the more urgency you will have to have sex.
the more you want to have sex the more you will masturbate.
the more you will masturbate the more you will contain your primal desire to have sex
the more sex crazed you are, the more pussy whipped you will be

This thread gave me some inspiration.
I'm getting on the bandwagon (or off it? Can't remember the expression)

woah...

you think VR porn is going to be the next boom?
doctors are going to give them to people with sex problems?

What are you supposed to feel when you have an orgasm during masturbation anyways? Happiness? I've never felt anything so porn never appeals to me that way.

I'm on 5th day of nofap

was looking at FB deciding which ugly girl to bang

>After they cum all good feeling is gone and they just try to get out of the situation as fast as possible.

Same for when i wank to porn or erp and finish myself lmao.

>furrie
Why can't people spell it right goddamn it?! F-u-r-r-y. I get real triggered when people start fucking with established words.

Norm sums it up:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5R6s6BjJuY

>Former porn sluts would NEVER make up stories of exploitation and violence after the first realization that they are now unemployable.