Why is Spanish Latin America multiple small countries instead of one big country like Brazil...

Why is Spanish Latin America multiple small countries instead of one big country like Brazil? They were all colonial regions of the same country and speak the same language. How come the former Spanish colonies became many small countries instead of one big one like Brazil?

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>Too many caudillos per capita
>Geography

Why aren't Australia and New Zealand one country?

Why aren't all the tiny Slav countries one big country?
>inb4 different languages
You get the point, brainlet

Maybe one day...

> multiple small countries
>small

most LatAm countries are among the largest countries in the World. and several of them are amongst the most ethnically, biologically and geographically diverse. if anything they could be even smaller.

Not getting into what hapenned in South America but for New Spain the islands all remained in Spanish hands after independence, except for the Dominican Republic which at the time decided to reunite with Haiti, and what was then the single country of Central America decided to strike on its own after the fall of the first Mexican Empire, which we allowed it to do peacefully. That's it, New Spain simply transitioned into Mexico for the most part.

Peru wanted nothing to do with Gran Colombia, Mexican Empire allowed the central region to go free, and they balkanized pretty quickly
Argentina its pretty big tho
Bolivia or "Upper Peru" also wanted its own autonomy
And no need to say Gran Colombia also divided later
Strong regionalism n shit

Gran Colombia was just Bolivar whim. Venezuela was for the most time a separate entity from Nueva Granada during Colonial times.

Criollos.

Now that you got the correct answer, just shut the fuck up, delete your thread and go get bitten by a black widow spider.

But Bolivar did wanted Peru to join his gang, I mean his ideal was to have a strong united Latin american nation, but after the shit show it was Peru he abandoned that dream pretty fast

Nueva Granada didn't like Bolivar that much either. He died pretty much alone in Santa Marta.

kek I know
He had a better run in the now Colombia than in his natal Venezuela
He did became the president of many cunts at the same time

Shut the fuck up you stupid indio

>And no need to say Gran Colombia also divided later
And will keep dividing
Fuck this stupid country

>antioquia
>disputa
>puta(s)

todo en orden

During empire we had several rebellions and all were supressed. We managed to keep everyone united while spanish america were killing each other.

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Brazil had a lower population density than most of Spanish America, I think this helped a lot. In fact, our countryside is still basically empty.

Why do anglos make such stupid questions?, Read a book from time to time instead of embarrassing yourself in posts like these

Go roleplay as ss1488 Sp*niard elsewhere, you schizophrenic paisa piece of shit!

colombia is as big as spain and france combined

The Portuguese royalty came to live in Brazil during the Napoleonic wars because they were major allies with the English.
That made both the politics and economy a lot more centric since they could deal with the problems and rebellions first-hand.

Keep being butthurt.

When the time comes, we'll drive you out into the ocean and reclaim the land you, parasites, murderers and criminals in nature are occupying. It's not yours but ours!

The same goes to costeños.

Yeah sure, but imagine how hard it was to move an entire division from Rio to the fucking nowhere up north.

Countryside it's only now starting to receive companies and growth.

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>kick us out
>go bankrupt instantly
>lose all their culture (there is no culture outside of Antioquia)

When France and Spain invaded Portugal in 1808, during the Napoleonic Wars, the Portuguese monarch D. João VI and his family took refugee in Brazil, as did the most important part of the court. The presence of the King in Brazil created a powerful unifying government that was previously unknown in the colony. The fact that the Portuguese court remained in Brazil for 13 years was crucial for the formation of a unified state, in contrast to Spanish America. D. João created many institutions and raised Brazil's status as an equal state to Portugal, a united kingdom, just like UK. Brazil became effectively the metropole of a large colonial empire spamming four continents. The country was de facto independent since 1808. Its formal independence was largely a peaceful, gradual one. Pedro I (João's son) wished that his father would return to Brazil and proclaim a Brazilian-Portuguese empire. When he announced the independence, he also promised he would abdicate if his father returned from Lisbon. It did not happened.

That's why Portuguese America remained a single, unified state, unlike Spanish America. Had D. João VI not landed in Rio de Janeiro, the Brazilian territory would be occupied by many smaller states.

Even D. João knew what could happen, and he said to his son before his departure in 1821 - "Should Brazil be independent, then it should be by your hands, and not by some adventurer" (refering to Hispanic libertadores).

kek joao is a chinlet

During that same Napoleonic Invasion to Spain, New Spain offered Mexico City to serve as temporary capital, a fleet was prepared to move the Spanish monarchs and everything they needed to the Colony where they could wait until Spain was back on Spanish hands
They rejected that offer and the colonies went out

The political structure of Portuguese America was, until 1808, similar to that of Spanish America.

What small countries?

It was a very different scenario. For the most part New Spain did remain unified in spite of much the same pressures as in South America. By far our greatest territorial loss was due to the Americans, what was once the Capitania General de Guatemala was always separate for administrative purposes and our country reaches south as far as Aztec influence extended in pre-Columbian times, Soconusco in Chiapas, which does show the extent to which Central American jungles separated them effectively. Guatemala was foiled by this very reason in exerting control which led to the balcanization of that territory.

We still ended up with a country the combined size of Western Europe, only Argentina ended up larger amongst former Spanish colonies because it was able to extend into Patagonia without competition for the most part. The land was at the time too far away from anyone else and not valuable enough to fight over, now it's probably worth gold given its resources, although they ended up giving the Magellan strait to Chile which was probably the more valuable resource to be had there.

On top of dealing with an expansionist America Mexico had to face France, so that's a good 3 decades worth of the 19th century that really began for us in the 1820's lost to that, add to that another 3 deacdes putting down insurrections and in civil wars we basically lost near that full century.

Still, as in pictured we aren't doing that bad, compare to Brazil with more than twice our territory and population. We lost a good two decades of the 20th century to the revolution and one (1980's) to mismanagement. And we've been doomed to low near stagnant growth since Calderón came to power and declared the war on drugs in our country. But if we can make it through this, and the one silver lining to the recent earthquake is it seems to have awakened something positive in our people, we might be able to actually become the world's 5th or 6th largest economy in the coming decades.

>Argentina its pretty big tho

for you big guy

'Cause Hispanics hate each other.
Also see: Spain.

>Stock market
thanks cristina

Well, it beat several records since Macri came, but if you mention it, people won't shut up about muh neoliberals, muh they're just going to take their profits away as soon as possible, etc.
Cristina and the Peronism in general did fight the Capital as their anthem says. Too bad they convinced everyone else of it on the process.

Also Brazil didn't had to put off with all the foreign invasions

the countries are already big af. why doesnt yurosmalls make a decent sized country?

>except for the Dominican Republic which at the time decided to reunite with Haiti
We didn't decide that retard.

This

>Suriname, Guyana, and French Guyana be included. Mmmmmm.

"On December 1, 1821, a constitutive act was ordered to petition the union of Spanish Haiti with Gran Colombia. The state of the Republic of Spanish Haiti was not supported by the population of slaves and servants who were wary of the rule of pure whites, and preferred to unite with French Haiti, because of their abolition of slavery."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Spanish_Haiti

The article makes it clear relations soured after, when the Haitian government was unable to mantain its promises to the common people, but I don't see where I'm mistaken when it does look as a democratic decission. By all means I'm not an expert in your country's history, do feel free to make corrections, but bad attitude is not a way to make your point.

>largely peaceful
No.

And don't forget the Bonifácio national project. We born as a empire and remain big because that was planed by him as Carbonaria grandmaster.

los blancos don't want this. They control everything en todos paises latin amerikka. They dont want the true la gente of the continent to rise up and take control, take back their land. If they stay balkanized they are weaker.

You need to go back

Slaves were always a minority in DR, whites were like 40% of the population before the haitian invasion, some freed blacks and mulattoes supported the haitians, but not all and surely not the majority.

He talked about area.

Are you aware that most South American borders are literally fucking mountains?

Fair enough, you do have to admit this article
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_of_Hispaniola
which I assume is factual in Haitians facing no armed oposition on their takeover would make it look different.

>mid 2000s south america uniting under leftist nationalist governments
>Brazil stops a war from happening
>we develop our economies and start refusing one-sided deals with the US
>the US starts backing coups and the rightist media in our countries
>back into the 90s neoliberal depression
RIP the dream.

At least we can always dream...

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Yeah, Chile and Argentina are the entire SA. There are lots of natural borders, but they are rivers in majority.

we only need to elect you know who, things will change for the best

because allies you puta

Shut up vadia