Why is it that koreans or asians in general can't act for shit?
They seem to be completely incapable of doing subtle facial expressions and mannerisms.
Character is surprised? Most exaggerated facial expression of surprise one could possibly fucking do.
Is this a cultural thing? Do asians actually mimic this way when they talk normally? Is my criticism unjustified?
they are pretty stoic, Koreans are like a drone swarm. plus they fucking clog up the isle of the grocery store and wont move out of the way
It's probably a cultural thing.
Just like in old movies, they mimicked theatre by over exagerating emotions
Asians don't know what subtlety is. This is a known fact.
have you watched Oldboy you motherniggerfucker
>oldboy
>good acting
nigger please, it's as subtle as a comic book
>They seem to be completely incapable of doing subtle facial expressions and mannerisms.
Film I watched just last night didn't seem to have this as the case.
Oldboy has the exact same issues. I suggest you actually rewatch it and take your "timeless classic" goggles off.
I don't care, their films are still top tier, even if the performances are goofy as fuck.
I'm gonna go watch Memories of a Murder again now.
while i rewatch it go you go kys
I really don't know. It's probably a cultural thing
The japanese have some great acting by western standards
Asia, Korea in particular, is a place where people are generally unemotional and restrained. So when they are displaying emotion, it is showing that it's a very strong emotion.
I watched some korean films over the past few days and i was pretty underwhelmed. It seems that every single korean film has some more or less blatant directional choices that drag down the films.
The movies i watched were:
The Host
Thirst
Mother
Mother was pretty okay overall, just due to how the story plays out, but the acting (again, might just be a cultural thing) was pretty shit across all characters except the Mother herself, the whole "acupuncture spot that makes you forget bad things" is completely retarded and was only set up to serve as a "punchline" at the end of the film...
The Host was insanely stupid as well, it's like whenever they want to show you "this character is an irresponsible, selfish asshole" they shove it into your face in the most blatant and unmissable way possible. Are they scared i'd miss it otherwise? The only thing about that movie that i found truly nice was how the monster interacted with the environment around it.
Thirst was so bad i couldn't finish it, and i rarely just turn off a movie. Again, that movie has such stupid and blatant directing. There's this one scene where it's hot inside the house and they make an effort to film NOTHING but the girl getting sweaty, and rubbing her shoulders and unbuttoning her shirt while the guy watches her, when that scene could've been handled so much better if they filmed all of that from afar. It wouldn't be so fucking forced.
Recommend some Korea-kino to me so i can actually see what a good korean movie looks like. I really, really want to watch "The Handmaiden"
Memories of Murder.
Name an example japanese movie that has good acting. The last japanese movies or shows i watched were Midnight Diner Tokyo and Like Father Like Son and the acting was pretty shit by western standards
Veteran
Cure (1997)
any Ozu, Koreeda, Teshigahara...japanese cinema is light years ahead of Korea
Kill yourself, that's not a Korean movie.
hmm, I think you might dig some Sang-soo Hong movies. the acting in his movies is kinda organic
this movie suffers from the exact problem in the OP
still pretty good
What? These are all Korean movies you dumbfuck
If you think you know better directing than Bong Joon-ho and Park Chan-wook, I think you should just give up.
What exactly is good about their directing? From the trailers i've seen "The Handmaiden" looks like a gorgeously directed film, but all of these i mentioned were pretty shit.
>OP doesn't know who Tony Leung is
>korea
I'm sorry but your problem is you picked three dumb movies. Mother is the best of those three but it's entirely carried by the main character's acting and the rest of the movie is weak. The Host is overrated as FUCK and Thirst is possibly that guy's worst movie besides the 5 minute experimental one he filmed on an iPhone.
IIRC those movies were all by the same guy, who also did Memories of Murder. Memories of Murder is his best and a very solid movie all around.
I enjoyed Poetry and Peppermint Candy a lot. Those movies have very strong writing and direction.
The Handmaiden was a very well executed thriller. Very enjoyable.
I feel like in general people complaining about the acting being too bombastic don't really understand that that is the Korean style. It's like when you watch American movies from the 50s and they have that style that is almost stage acting. I don't know what you people want, for everyone to just be moody as fuck all the time like in American/European arthouse films? That has never been the Korean style. It is all about powerful emotion and clear intent.
>japanese cinema is light years ahead of Korea
Only because Korea didn't have a real movie industry until the fucking 80s and the Japs were pumping out talented directors since the 40s. But I would say right now, in the current generation, Japanese movies have basically degenerated to the point where Korean and Japanese cinema is at the same level.
Park Chan-wook directed The Handmaiden also directed Old Boy and Thirst which are both masterfully crafted. The Handmaiden is in my opinion his masterpiece but that doesn't mean much if you think his previous movies were terrible. Apart from the amount of detail and precision that goes into their filmmaking, I'm not about to explain anything if you think The Host and Thirst were shit, it would be a waste of time. They obviously don't appeal to your sensitivities and there's nothing wrong with that. I think most French classic movies are insufferable so I guess I can relate in a way.
All three of those movies received pretty favorable reviews. I mean in retrospect i find that all these reviews were probably full of shit, but that's the reason i'm asking for recommendations now.
And like i said; it might just be a cultural thing. But i think that more subtlety in how characters behave is always better than just getting the blatant shit across and have them be 1 dimensional beyond that point. That's just my personal preference anyways. If it's truly just the "korean style" then i guess korean movies just aren't for me.
I thought Oldboy was pretty good, i only thought Thirst was really awful.
I was convinced the handmaiden was a comedy but apparently its a thriller.
>asians in general
kek that's a normal reaction towards korean movies
Watch "In the mood for love" or "Chungking express", they are very subtle little films with good acting.
I like Oldboy but it had zero to no subtlety in it. No wonder Tarantino loved it so much.
Just because characters more openly display strong emotion in Korean movies doesn't make them one dimensional. Korea is a very repressed country. There is a lot of that "you gotta be a man, never show emotion" stuff for men and for women women have to endure everything and never show their real feelings because people will gossip about their problems. So again there is little emotion shown, and when emotion is shown it is because the feelings are so strong they can't be hidden.
I don't know, maybe it is because they arr rook same you're not really grasping it. I hate being "that guy" who says "you just don't get it" but that largely seems to be the disconnect here. If that style of acting is not for you, it's not for you, and that's OK. But just understand that it is not bad acting, it is just a different style that you can actually find in older European and American films as well.
Also for the most part western critics of Korean movies and Asian movies in general are full of shit, they are oikophobes who believe "it is different so it must be fresh and superior" and once they find a pet director they just dick suck them all day long. Do not fall into the trap. Good directors can make shit movies(just look at the guy who did Die Bad/Veteran/Crying Fist, he basically makes one good movie and one shit one alternatingly) and this is especially true of Korean movies because Korean filmmakers are for the most part genre filmmakers at heart.
Thirst and Handmaiden (and Oldboy) are Park-Chan Wook films, whereas Mother and The Host are Bong Joon-ho films
>openly display strong emotion
Come on, man, you talk like it's melodrama-tier display of emotion but it's way worse. Korean acting is hyperbolic as fuck, it's like a caricature of itself. Every korean movie I've seen so far made me question at least for a second if I was watching satire.
Yeah I got mixed up and thought Bong did Thirst also for some reason.
Thirst still sucks.
I thought I Saw The Devil had pretty good acting, so i don't think that Korean style thing you're talking about is completely true. But yes, Korea is a pretty repressed country, maybe directors even hestitate to give actors precise descriptions of how they want them to act. I don't know. I really don't want to be the guy who "just doesn't get it" so i'll try to watch more korean movies before making a decision.
Bong and Park are two of the best directors going t b h
Ironically the softporn flicks are the most watchable acting wise. Maybe its because the actors knpw its just a glorified porn as actual pornography is not lelgal korea.
Bong and Park are very talented but Park's flaw is that he always has to go over the top and Bong has the typical Korean director problem of just trying to put in way too much.
Try watching Poetry.
>actual pornography is not lelgal korea.
wew
Asians have no emotions, they're literally soulless drones.
That's not true desu. It's just that asian countries have a culture of SHAME and are so repressed that they don't actually know what actual drama looks like. How the fuck do you make a proper drama film when your culture is such a fucking peice of shit about such things? Poor koreans.
>koreans
>can't act for shit
You talking about japs.
What about reddit?