Can Cuba be considered an example of socialism working?

So a guy proposed to me that Cuba is an excellent example of socialism working. Free healthcare and education, literacy rate above USA and below 5% population living under poverty. Do any of you have any counter arguments or you agree with the notion?(Provide sources alongside please)

Ever been to Cuba?

Nah

Cubans are doing well considering the embargo and situation with practically no allies.Hopefully it will not turn into a post communist oligarch shithole like russia and china in the 90:s.

The country is incredibly poor (which could be attributed to the trade sanctions)

What about only 5% population living below poverty line?

socialism is a fucking meme, especially "state socialism"

workers ownership and control of the MoP, not totalitarian dictatorship ok???? Praise bakunin

Those are memes and communist propaganda. Every Cuban that can get the way out, he does. Those who can prove they have family in Spain are allowed to leave, I don't think there are people like this anymore in the island.

it's actually a pretty decent country considering the embargo

There are 11 million Cubans in Cuba and 2 million Cubans in America
They're leaving for a reason, user

>with practically no allies
>Russia
>Venezuela
>Nicaragua
>most of Europe is ok with them

Hopefully, but can it be considered a successful example of socialism working?

they aren't leaving, they left. the cubans in america are the or are the descendents of cuban kulaks. they came here and bred when the means of production were socialized.

According to crappy Wikipedia statics their HDI is pretty good.

no, workers do not control the Means of Production

Indeed ,but what are those reasons? That's what I wanna know.

That's communism, we're talking about socialism here. There is no free market and the companies are govt owned.

HDI is a stupid meme

I literally get WUT when i see venezuela and cuba there

no, communism is the abolition of the law of value and the value form

read Bordiga

not really, by hdi standars they should be high, but the problem is that hdi standards are stupid

I'll go ahead and address real quickly one of the arguments you're about to be spammed with.
Cuba has done well for itself when despite the fact that the world's largest military and economy (and their closest neighbor) has been constantly doing almost everything in their power to destroy them for the past 50 years.

Ever been to India?

Based.

Friendly reminder that most of the "people" fleeing Cuba were wealthy plantation owners who were assmad because Castro forced them to give their slave laborers rights.

Ah yes, the economic powerhouse of Venezuela (which only became chavista in '92, long after the Cuban Revolution) is clearly the key to Cuban success. Russia really doesn't care about Cuba, and especially wont try anything with them since the Monroe Doctrine is still in effect to an extent. And Europe doesn't make up for the world's largest economy (who just happens to be your closest neighbor) embargoing you.

Before anyone (I suspect it will either be the Sup Forums leaf or that bong namefag) starts spamming me with >"leuglycommunistface.jpg", please refer to the following image.

>Every Cuban that can get the way out, he does.
Wrong

when the fuck did i even say if cuba is good or bad, i said venezuela is their ally and it's true, they hold 25% of their imports, also i forgot China

>Venezuela
??????

>they aren't leaving, they left. the cubans in america are the or are the descendents of cuban kulaks. they came here and bred when the means of production were socialized.
>Friendly reminder that most of the "people" fleeing Cuba were wealthy plantation owners who were assmad because Castro forced them to give their slave laborers rights.
This. Fuck them.

No, the only thing Cuba can boast about is not malnutrition. In the rest is to be a dead in life.

t. Cuban.

>Friendly reminder that most of the "people" fleeing Cuba were wealthy plantation owners who were assmad because Castro forced them to give their slave laborers rights.
They were literal Jews, nearly all of Cuba's Jewish population fled during the revolution.

Really makes you think...

No.

Precisely this.

Huh? Jews are known to be capitalist . Why is it a surprise?

...

Do Cuban girls have nice feet?

Yeah, it's a shithole thanks to communism.

Neato, that communist Finn found a US proxy to talk to himself.

>Jews are known to be capitalist

You clealy don't know shit about jews

Yeah Castro's personal slave state with $150 a month wages is really the workers' paradise, no?

Cuba is a shithole, the hookers are good looking and cheap tho.

Cuba is a depressing place with two hours of electricity a day and empty store shelves where old men in undershirts sit around driving rusted 1955 Buicks and playing Dominoes. The birthrate is almost nil and the suicide rate is one of the highest in the world.

Elaborate

Jews were the ones who forced bolshevism in Russia. Jews are the most notorious commies in the US. Even Israel was a lot more socialist before they wised up.

>There is no free market and the companies are govt owned.

That is communism

You made this same thread on Sup Forums.

Interesting how the people saying "no" to this question have simultaneously managed to not address a single point of the other posters here while also not making a single argument themselves.

*shoots you*
Ah you see we are a functioning state and not niggers

Yea wanted to get a wider array of opinions

Comie stats tend to be rather deceiving.

On Sup Forums, people made some really good counter arguments

>79994586
Why do namefags exist? On an anonymous image board? How big of a pathetic anti social faggot to you have to be in real life to attention whore on fucking Sup Forums?
Ah yes, because clearly "The Congo is developing its economic infrastructure at an exciting pace for investors!" courtesy of the IMF is a much more reliable source for determining the success of a country.

Cuba is objectively god tier. A country suit for the nihilistic and those who simply don't give a shit about money. Jorge should move there in a heartbeat and get himself a mulatta gf

Wtf, I love the Congo now!


CONGratulations, BRAVO CONGO!

Kys

Let's put it this way, Cuba might be a '' 'third world cunt''' and India might be a '''superpower''', but I would choose to live in Cuba over India in a heartbeat

Liberal and leftist Euros and Americans thinking that Socialism really worked well in Cuba.

That all happens because you have never had leftist governments before. It is easy to be left-wing while browsing through an iPhone

Who's Jorge

>Liberal and leftist
>leftists
>liberals
>implying
Stopped reading.
>being this new

I bet he's some South American shitposter who only posts in general in newworld hours

He's Spanish.

Since Cuba is tropical North Korea, Imma go with a no.

IMHO you should compare Cuba to Puerto Rico which went the exact opposite way. Cuba is a renowned cultural pressence in Latin America through it's film, food and music, they produce MDs almost like if they were a factory, they are a well educated people and produce the world's finest rum and cigars. They can compete with countries the size of Brazil, Argentina and Mexico when it comes to sports.

Puerto Rico is responsible for Reggaeton and is currently without power and running water for the most part, they're American citizens.

Sure, I'm not condoning the crimes of the Castro regime but honestly you've gotta give it to Cuba they'v done some things right.

>Cuba is a renowned cultural pressence in Latin America through it's film, food and music, they produce MDs almost like if they were a factory, they are a well educated people and produce the world's finest rum and cigars.
Are you a time traveler from 1955?

No man, it is reality, there's plenty of Cubans in Mexico City.

lmao

you tell them mr jew expert

Their cultural pressence might be strong in the Caribbean region, but not here.
Also
>Puerto Rico is currently without power and running water for the most part
Well, they had a hurricane destroying all their shit a few days ago, meanwhile Cuba has a few hours of pre-scheudeled power a day, and the only natural disaster they got was communism