Daily reminder that we could have had a functioning healthcare system like the CIVILIZED world...

Daily reminder that we could have had a functioning healthcare system like the CIVILIZED world, but you conservashits had to go and sabotage the whole thing.

I recommend suicide, I really do. We're behind the rest of the world and its your fault.

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ayy fug off

NHS is shit tier.

We could have health care if the rest of the world had any fucking military strength so we didn't have to play world police every single time

>Letting Children be the voice of reason

ROFL I'M NOT PAYING FOR YOUR HEALTHCARE PEDRO. SORRY!

That's when you pat the kid on the head, say "that's cute", then explain the economics of state monopolies and why they fail to him.

This is begging for a flat tax edit.

I'd like to wrap my hands around your neck and squeeze until the last drop of life comes out of your worthless body. Believe me, it would bring me great pleasure, just that it's a shame I won't get the chance.

Death to faggots who think we'd be better off emulating a dying Europe's social programs.

>Europe is dying
>America isn't

making someone else pay for your new liver cause you're a fucking drunk waste on society is definitely the answer.

ya you too could have to wait 5 hours to get into the ER where if you are lucky you get an extremely overworked white doctor who will treat you like shit

if you are unlucky you get a "doctor" from Nigeria who will not be able to speak English and will have no idea what they are doing


>One time I walked into a hospital in Toronto and the bottom floor was flooded, no one cared, government drones kept on pretending to do their jobs like nothing was happening

I don't know why people realize communism leads to misery and bread lines, but communist medicine is a great idea

You mean have CIA overtrow leaders all over the world, democratically elected or not, and funding """""""""""""moderate""""""""""" rebels in the process, creating the need for a world police? Yeah go USA

>implying the whole healthcare debacle known as obamacare wasn't designed entirely without input from republicans
HURR IT'S THEIR FAULT STUPID CONSERVASHITS HURRRRRRRRRR

Its time to edit these cartoons into rabidly racist themes.

Kill yourself socialist

Wow, guess i'm with her now.

poor and stupid need the most health care too, coincidence?

>Used to only have to pay $30 a paycheck for full coverage because it was offered to me for being a full time employee
>Obama forces Obamacare
>I was dropped down to part time to dodge having to be "required" to be offered healthcare
>Then when it became forced for everyone regardless of hours I had to pay $100+ for full coverage per paycheck, while meanwhile every Welfare Queen can get it for free because muh welfare
>Every spic and nigger that goes to the ER to waste the doctor's time and money shoot up my costs even more
>I'm now paying $30 for the absolute bare minimum insurance where they will only help me if I'm on the absolute verge of death, which in case then and only then they might give me a bandaid
>King Nigger is so upset the working class is mad about being forced to get shitty healthcare that he jacks up the price of penalties for people who refuse to get it, which is like $5000 at the end of the year if you go a year without having it

Take your universal free healthcare and shove it right the fuck up your ass

>Build a wall
A barbaric simplistic approach to a complex problem
>Single payer
Common sense

here we go again

You're next.

Daily reminder that Horsey threads are in the same tier along with

>Sup Forums BTFO
>what did he mean by this?
>really makes you think

>implying Europe is a model for anything

The writing is on the fucking wall dude. Europe is going to hell in a handbasket. Right now we need to be talking about moving forward in a world where Europe has irrelevant geopolitical pull.

We need to be figuring out the exact reasons democracy failed. Because you're fucking delusional if you think the current political paradigm is going to last much longer. The world is going to be a whole lot different in the coming years and we have a lot of shit to figure out, none of which are your pathetic progressive causes that are going to feel pretty darn petty a few years from now

Feel free to pay for your own defense anytime. I'll await your desperate texts when Russia invades and you realize your military budget was just solider cosplay.

You want "Free" healthcare? Immigrate to a country that offers it.

Problem solved fuckhead.

Who gets to define civilized? What makes a country civilized? Are you saying that only civilized countries are white countries? Considering there's no universal healthcare in African tribes, yet you're saying they're not civilized? What are you, a racist?

No.fuck off.grow up and get a big boy job that offers actual insurance.

This.

Look I'm no fan of US imperialism but you Europeans are fucking delusional about your place in the world. The ONLY thing keeping Russia from having its way with Europe is the United States. And increasingly the only reason we give a shit about Europe is the UK. But it turns out that they aren't so European after all.

The real reason Europe collectivly lost its shit over brexit is because Europe is truely on its own from here on out. We'll salvage western civilization without you ungrateful cucks. Have fun being Russia's bitch

You're a liar. When Obongo was pushing for his healthcare, in 2010 it was the 111th United States Congress. See pic related, fuckface.

absofucklutely right man. I concur.

I just saw this today for my wife's surgery and overnight stay.

Yay, the system works, I guess.

>Russian military
>effective outside of Russia
The UK could resist any Russian invasion and fuck them up.
Americans are the ones deluding themselves into thinking that Europeans don't know how to wage war

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You guys don't. We had to end both your wars for you.

Socialized healthcare is terrible.
Look at the statistics that show how much better american healthcare is.
Yeah its expensive, but you're supposed to have a job.

Why make healthy people pay for the sick when in 2016 most of the sickness relates to poor lifestyle choices?

I find it hilarious how people don't value highly skilled health labor. They will pay top dollar for the most frivolous of shit and someone saves their life or greatly improves their quality of life they get mad when they have to pay them money...

>implying
Soviets were pushing back the tattered remains of the German army and we were winning every attempt to put German troops on British soil despite have less equipment and less soldiers.
We probably couldn't have launched a counter attack and taken Berlin without the US, but Britain was never going to fall

I'm a NEET so I get free everything anyway

Thanks Obama

ya, real life details always seem to get in the way of your utopian dreams don't they you naive cunt?

The AHA was passed unilaterally by democrats. Look it up ignorantfag.

>Democrats have majorities in the House and Senate, and control of the White House.
>Still too softcocked to just push through single payer whether the Republicans like it or not.

Even if you agree with the Democrats, they're simply to fucking weak to ever do anything of value to you.

we already have it. You go to emergency room you get care. Just ends up costing more because you're afraid of the word "socialist." You can't leave your safespace.

NHS may not be what the poster meant by "civilized"

>blew your military budget paying for dude free shit

yeah everyone wants you to "police" the world and you do such a good job of it when you do actually bother to do something

republicans control the house boss.

Actually, I doubt any health system will put a new liver in an alcoholic; we don't. Same as smokers are always lowest on the list for lungs, meaning they will never get them. (I don't mean 'former smokers' or 'recovering alcoholics'.)

People who made bad decisions get put in the back of the list, for example, smokers always get put in the back of list, drinkers get put in the back of the list for liver transplants and shit like that.

Most of your objections about nationalized healthcare are simply due to ignorance

>poor and stupid need the most health care too
you mean women?
>Women's costs are higher, and they live longer, yet Obamacare will charge men the same for health-insurance premiums

ideas.time.com/2013/08/23/women-should-pay-more-for-health-care/

Democrats controlled the house in 2009 when this shit happened dumdum.

>American education.

>but you conservashits had to go and sabotage the whole thing.
Lol
Socialized medicalcare to "fix" the system we have is like the government breaking your leg and then giving you a crutch (which it bought with money from your pocket) and then government convincing you that without it you wouldn't be able to walk.

The issue has always been government period.
freenation.org/a/f12l3.html

tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-541-just-how-much-has-government-screwed-up-health-care-an-er-doctor-explains-and-tells-us-how-to-fix-it/

>tfw just went to the doctor and got medicine for under $12

>Ends up costing more

When I was still on my parents insurance I would just give the ER fake information and pay nothing

That would never work in America then. People would not stand for unequal access regardless of what people did to screw up.

How do liberals kill themselves when they don't own guns?

Do they go get "enlightened" by the superior negro in the hood?

learn the difference between present and past tense then dumbass.

I worded it poorly. You guys aren't cucks and do actually pull your own weight in the world. My point was that the US and UK are the only reason Europe has any geopolitical relevance. The post-Brexit world inevitably will shift the UK interests to be more aligned with the US than with Europe. Europe might not literally be conquered by Putin but they are inevitably going to be forced to submit to him to some degree. Europe just isn't worth the US or UK time anymore

>I recommend suicide
Funnily enough, that would be the recommendation of the death panels for most ills if ever the system implied by state-run HC was fully imposed on the people.

Why bother? You'll be found dead at your desk at 35.

Hey retard we already do that in America, if you're a drunk piece of shit you're not getting a liver

>american exceptionalism

>It may work for the rest of the world, but it may not work for USA
>Why?
>Because it's USA baby!

> People would not stand for unequal access

How do your organ transplants lists work?

>dad's healthcare stuff changed so he no longer pays for one of his medications but still gets the gift certificate that comes with it
>basically gets paid 50 bucks to pick up his medicine

feels good considering how much shit he's been through before now

....my raging alcoholic 2nd cousin got multiple livers.

Fair enough

Fuck you, I'm not paying my hard earned money for the poor. I have a job lined up that will provide me my health care.

Get a job or join the military lazy shits.

why does he need more than one

>Only in USA

How? Are you guys swiming in livers?

FDR and Truman were Democrats. They ruined US health insurance. LBJ, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, and Obama made it even worse. Clinton also tried to make it worse but was blocked.

>Fuck you, I'm not paying my hard earned money for the poor.
You already do

Russia had a much easier time pushing back the Germans because American bombers actually flew in the fucking daylight and hit strategic target. Kind of hard to keep up a war when your industrial base gets keked. Meanwhile the Brits just flew at night and firebombed entire cities instead of doing anything actually useful.

Furthermore, US involvement meant the Russkies stopped at Berlin, and not fucking Gibraltar.

>how does greentext work.

>>>/reddit/

You're deluded if you think the Russians would have stopped at Berlin without the United States.

You'd have a Soviet Sickle and Hammer flying from Big Ben by 1946.

This is true. Hopefully the GOP will implode this election and we can get to work on making this country not suck.

Don't get me wrong, conservatives tend to be right about some "human nature" things (giving children discipline, men and women being different, ...) but they have literally no clue when it comes to economics and making a country actually work.

>Sabotage the whole thing
>Democratic super majority in house and Senate

Look man, some people just deserve to die. With Universal healthcare no one would die and that would create a world of regression and no one would advance, because there would be no fear.

Says a fucking Swede

graft rejection

Dems had the chance to pass single payer.
Instead, they chose corporate welfare.

We could have a perfectly fine welfare state if we just deported all the blacks but you libshits had to go and sabotage the whole thing.

Very little though. I live in a state that is constantly fucking over the public school systems finding to save the tax payer money and to feed private schools.

It's pretty great.

>the reason Russia pushed back the Germans wasn't because the Germans were starving and freezing to death by the thousands
>Canada
>war
No
>implying
We beat the Germans and we can beat the Russians. Ruskies are useless once they actually leave Russia and their surprise winters aren't an asset anymore.
Russia never taken western Europe and never will
They don't have the men, the intelligence, the tactics or the support.

>With Universal healthcare no one would die
>He is actually saying current US system leaves people out of healthcare and dooms them to die

How does it feel to have Muslims penetrating your women, swedecuck?

Btw I love Swedish people, but Swedes say there is no swedish culture and that immigrants > swedes so... ultimate cucks

dear effeminate American, the reason you don't have government funded medical service and we do here in Canada, is because you have the most badass army on the planet, and that shit costs money. And because you have the most badass army on the planet, we don't need to have much of an army at all, and can spend our shit on government funded medical services. Thank you for making Canadians think our country is good because we made it that way, America is the hero we need.

>surprise winters
>It's a surprise there is a nasty winter in Russia

>They don't have the men
They had

It wasa the funking slave owners who wanted to niggers to stay

fip bip

How is natural selection going to work if we keep everyone alive, you dumb shit? America is ahead of the curve.

>How does it feel to have Muslims penetrating your women, swedecuck?
>American cuck fetishs

I bet you masturbate furiously to interracial porn.

How is vacation?

You can sit on your high horse all you want, but remember your best general was the reason for Operation Market Garden.

Even when you had your boot on Germany's throat you managed to trip.

The UK in WW2 was incompetent. The only reason Africa was won was because Italy was an even bigger shit show. You got kicked off France with little effort and you couldn't have launched D-day without American bodies. The only thing that went right was your Air Force.

But please go on about how you would have held off the Red Horde for the rest of time.

A FUCKING LEAF!

Ours is shit too

I'm poor as fuck and forced to go private for decent mental health

Insurance is the best

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>>He is actually saying current US system leaves people out of healthcare and dooms them to die
Which is true... I think conservatives are OK with this. You know, supporting the culture of life and all

>you have the most badass army on the planet, and that shit costs money
Fucking retarded. Our system costs $9k/capita, british costs $3k/capita.

6k*300million = 1.8TRILLION dollars we're literally wasting on our system that doesn't even work well. Just because it comes out of our income instead of our taxes doesn't make it any cheaper.

>yfw all the WHO health care rankings that put europoor countries above USA have a heavily weighted category in their metric for "% of people covered", which obviously gives socialists country a 100 and the US a sub 100 score because of useless niggers that don't work. This category offsets the FACT that all top hospitals, researchers, and surgeons are in the US and that the US has the highest survival rates for ALL serious ailments BY FAR

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>2000-2002
>figures for france not available
>no source
>equates nationalized healthcare with socialism

Now that we stopped with the children memes, let's look at numbers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita
Americans spend much more in healthcare

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

USA has 3rd world life expetancy (below my country, lol).

cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/worldwide-cancer/mortality#heading-Zero

USA has shit cancer mortality

worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/all-cancers/by-country/
another link

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

USa has 3rd world infant mortality rate, well below my country (lol) who spends less then a third per capita in healthcare.

>our system that doesn't even work well

The United States has the best medical system in the world.

If you have a modest income, you have, BY FAR, the best chance of survival in the US. Stop jerking off to Michael Moore movies and get a job. You'll be fine and you aren't going to go bankrupt unless you literally stroll into the ER needing a quadruple bypass.

You realize our cancer survival numbers are inflated by doctors over-diagnosing benign or harmless slow-growing cancers as needing to be treated...
>fuck up your prostate
>render you impotent and incontinent
>make money doing so
>you count as a "survivor"

>The United States has the best medical system in the world.
It really doesn't. First, large numbers of people don't have access to care. Second, even controlling for lifestyle factors we don't generally do better than any other developed country.

All systems have their pros and cons, but the US system is just retarded, cruel, wasteful and shameful.

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