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One of the most stupid things I've seen in a while. WW2 was a very long, and complex conflict, and somebody thought it was a good idea to poorly sum it up with pictures of dinosaurs (why dinosaurs?). I honestly hope the person who created this image was under the age of 14, because it's very embarrassing.

The beginning to midway through world war 2, no. But after the German invasion of Russia went sour, and the Germans had to retreat and Russia started pushing into Germany, and Americans through France, it was ogre. Though I'd make those small dinosaurs half murrican half Russian.

Somewhat true.

The biggest losers and wimps of WW2 were the Brits, the lost the fewest people relatively speaking but their empire entered a death spiral.

France always gets a bad rap but France in 1940 was a barely held together revolutionary powderkeg and Germany killed A LOT of french in the invasion, plus they had a huge resistance movement.

Japan was actually probably worse than Nazi Germany but we we like to gloss that over cause of Das Jews.

and Italy was more or less irrelevant.

>Ugh NO! this topic is so nuanced and complicated it is INSULTING that you would summarize it with photos and allegory, NO! i will NOT point out how you are wrong... just Ugh... you are SO wrong and STUPID!

The dinosaurs should be wearing American clothes and then it would be more accurate. Lend lease was no joke.

Finn-raptor fighting against 50 Russo-rexs is missing from the pic.

Japan should be a t-rex and fighting some soviet raptors

WW2 japan was fucking nothing

I'd make US raptors coming from the other side of Nazi T-Rex.

UK a T-Rex
Japan an Allosaurus

>nothing

The USSR and UK could have finished off Germany with our supplies

Japan was the real fight for USA

pic related

US can still be a T-Rex

He just has lots of raptors too

germans tried to fight everyone at once and failed.

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It's a plebbit-tier look at WWll that for the sake of being "FUNNY XD, SO TRUE" ignores so much

There should be more Russians


But remember Stalin is a cunt, was a cunt and Russia is a land filled with cunts.

It was only the UK who stood up to the Nazi, alone.... Just the Brits


Remember that too. And remember that Ameria didnt even want to help, we were taking a hammering from the Luftwaffe, who came to help us? no one.

Russia only entered the War because Stalin got cucked, but lucky they did, otherwise...
Brits are doing it again, stopping Germany, their EU project will burn, we are going to burn it and there is nothing they can do.

not many nations are willing to smash their economy and currency for the good of the world.

O, and I'd give the UK some raptors too, to equate to the commonwealth

An Oz raptor; a Canadian one

Opinion on who contributed the most to the end of the war in Europe by years.

England should be an anklyodon for outlasting German air raids. Italy should be some kind of cowardly egg eating dinosaur that only managed to eat colonies not actual powers. Japan should be a group of velociraptors, but only a few at best because it was rekt relatively easily and only got off a good ambush which made them look scary. France should be a dead dinosaur, but something stupid like a stegosaurus because it didn't use the right tactics even though it had the tech to defend itself. Germany can be a Spinosaurus or something similar because even though its tech wasn't all that great its tactics were. Russia and the US are the only good representations, though the US should be laying eggs for Russia or something because without their arms Russia doesn't do shit.

With that said, the image is misleading and childish in its current incarnation. Reminds me of a s4s or black people meme.

America came for the final hurrah, but lets be honest, they only joined when Japan cucked them.

War is fucking gay, hundreds of MILLIONS died.

For what? Fucking Nazi German cunt.

Lost.

>england

france is accurate

this post again

are you some butthurt oldfag fapping sentimentally over your fantasies of WW2?

isn't there a different board for that shit?

one of the bigger achievements of hollywood

Well one inconvenient truth that you can get by reading on the subject is that effectively USSR capacity to wage war wasn't all that great.If it weren't for Land-lease, they probably would have lost.

Up until the very end of the war there were shortages of things in USSR army that would unthinkable to a British or American solider...allot of their soldiers weren't given shoes ffs.

Which was true to some degree, Lend-Lease kept the Soviets in the fight until they could finally get full production going behind the Urals, and even then, they got quite lucky that the Nazis got bogged down both by the Russian Winter and their inability to get through Stalingrad to reach Baku.

Hitler wanted peace

Winston Cuckchill wanted war

kek

i dont speak dutch.

god damn hans, don't be stupid.

>Britain
>bigger than Japan

The Brits were nothing more than island French who had the luxury of having time to build up their military. The crown for ratio of bragging versus what they actually did definitely goes to them.

Italy should be considered an Ally, for all the good they did the Germans.

>no happy merchant seen anywhere

Not accurate at all.

But I thought the Jews were trying to turn us all into Communists? Wouldn't they want to portray the Soviets as heroes?

>200 killed

>they had a huge resistance movement.
kek. They had 10 times more french serving nazis then in resistance. That's why germans were so surprised when told France is one of victors in 1945. DeGol himself said la resistance was a propaganda myth.

The thing is the industrial output of USSR never ever matched that of USA. And allot of their production is inflanted, because they were essentially cutting corners wherever they could.

PPSH-41 were very badly finished, to the point that many could only accept the magazine that came with it. We all know the reputation of the Mosin Nagant in the surplus market of america.

T-34s were unreliably, despite the History channel myth, it was just the case they ended up being destroyed before some of the components went to shit.

Most of their planes were still using allot of laminated wood, due to aluminum shortages (being most important source, captured german plane wrecks).

I don't speak Mexican

>masochistically caring about who lost the most soldiers
>sadistically caring about who got the most kills

the only correct way to judge the outcome of the war is by who obtained the greatest strategic advantages with the least economic costs

I think this would be more accurate if at least alf were black dinosaurs and a quarter were poo in loo dinos.

>Hitler wanted peace
he killed millions, did blitz invasions, wanted to shape the world how he wanted...?

See this is exactly what Germany said.
You fucking retards. Do you really think that helped SO FUCKING MUCH?

$11.3 billion to the Soviet Union went to the Soviet Union. Americans estimated that this was enough to keep around 60 divisions on the line. So all that food, vehicles and so on was only 60 divisons.

Stalin increased mobilization, and by 1 August 1941, despite 46 divisions lost in combat, the Red Army's strength was 401 divisions.

OUT OF 401!

So the US financed 15% of the USSR combat strength. WOW THEY SURE WON THE WAR.

>Japan was actually probably worse than Nazi Germany but we we like to gloss that over cause of Das Jews
Eh I wouldn't be too sure.
The eastern front was pretty fucked up as a result of the will to avoid a situation like in WW1 where several years of famine spark a revolution so they decided to starve out, I think it was Leningrad, rather than take it because they would have had to feed them .

>Japan
>little
they fucking raped everything in the Pacific until we arrived, including the Soviets.
Until 1945 anyway

Better hurry up my little burger, you want to be able to listen to you new reina, dont you?

You have no idea how it annoys me when people here still bring up the fucking resistance. Some of them did good shit, but half of the resistance were bona fide communists who were only pissed off because the Nazis weren't their brand of totalitarianism. Those people shouldn't be honored, and we should be grateful for every communist that caught a bullet instead of a patriot.

For some reason this country took all of its post-war pride out of the resistance. You get people with cringe-worthy stories about how their ancestors were heroes for carting around illegal newspapers or crap like that. The common man is lifted up as daring for having a hidden radio and listening to the queen prattle on from England. And, of course, movies, books, schools names after dead commies.

No doubt it took stones to be in the resistance, but the disproportionate, self-aggrandizing hero-worship makes me sick.

Peace with England. Who cares for France and all the other irrelevant "countries" like Belgium?

>How people think WW2 was
How America thinks WW2 was*

that thinking belongs in medieval times

your missing the part where america steals the german research and scientists

>all these people trying to downplay US involvement in the war
without us you'd all be speaking german right now

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Russia saved Europe from the nazis

US saved Europe from Russia

15% is no small number you dumbfuck. Think about it. War is mathematical, every extra division you can squeeze out is more pressure to the enemy. More strategical possibilities.

Offensives and defenses are planned on the amount of men you can put o na given geographical area. Extra 60 Divisions can make all the difference. Image Kurks salient with minus 5 or 10 of those divisions? Imagine Moscow outskirts with less 2 divisions. etc.

If famine is your idea of "worse than Japan", you obviously have no fucking clue of the shit Japan pulled.

>your

blatant teen spotted.

KYS

Where are the dinosaurs of colour? Dinosaurs of colour almost single handedly defeated both the nazis and the Japanese. Cis white dinosaurs stealing all the glory and white washing history once again.

Fucking shitlords!

>they fucking raped everything in the Pacific until we arrived, including the Soviets.
We weren't even at war with japs you asked us to assist in 1945 after germany was done.

Verpiss dich du zugeschissene Arschkrampe

Yeah think about it. Soviet union would have been worse off later but it would have still zerged Germany just as good.

It might have taken more lives and might have taken longer. But they sure as fuck would have out zerg germans.

They came over under their own free will you fucking leaf. Go slurp some fucking maple syrup, you'll embarrass yourself less with your mouth glued shut

This.

We pumped resources and money into Russia like it was no one's business. If it wasn't for our lend-lease, Russia would have crumbled under the lack of resources and equipment.

No you fucking did not. The British were the only ones to raise objections to the commies occupying all the shit.You dense naive fucks literally thought it was no big deal that China and Eastern Europe were taken over by reds.

Was? Ich sprech deutsch jetzt du hurensohn!

JAJAJAJA, donde esta la biblioteca? Yo soy un hombre,

This. Russians are all about their deaths by Nazis, starvation and winter.

>You don't win a war by dying for your country. You win a war by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his.

I actually didn't know that they owned all that land, Jesus fuck.

>Leningrad, rather than take it because they would have had to feed them .
it's not like I wanted to capture your Leningrad or something baka!

>tfw my children will be learning of poland that was a nazi ally/"""bad guy""" of WW2
>tfw at some point there wont be anyone to tell the truth

why do the kikes hate us so much

Replace the American T-Rex with a meteor and it's more accurate

???

They fucking bombed the Australian Main land

Read a book, this is Sup Forums get your shit together.

>pumped resources and money into Russia
You sold us all that stuff. You're like merchant saying he sold sword to hero who fought dragon so it makes him a dragonlsayer-merchant.

Wtf I hate world war 2 now

Well, it's a visual, and simplification is necessary. It represents that while the US and Brits were bombing the living shit out of civilians, the Red Army were defeating the Wehrmacht in the field at a catastrophic price.

What it downplays are Lend-Lease, North Africa and the role the bomber offensive played in diverting defensive resources. However, Western perceptions, particularly American, are generally remarkably uninformed about the true scope of actors and actions in the conflict.

Post-fact armchair BS. You only say that now because of the results, but that wasn't at all that apparent up until 1943. And this is were you need to read and get schooled properly. Up until 1942, effectively Germans outnumbered the Russians. The infamous soviet juggernaut, zerg whatever the fuck you young plebs call it didn't exist.

60 divisions is allot and we aren't jsut talking about divisions but also equipment, food, vehicles and petrol. You dismiss important logistical and strategical factors. You don't know what you are talking about.

I don't think anyone underestimates how valuable the Soviets were in WWII and the massive meat body sacrifices they made.

>the city of portugal
your biggest contribution to the world is a fetid jungle whose only exports are disease and fart porn

80% of wermacht loses occured at eastern front though

Want to clear up a few myths about WW2.
The British empire was more or less finished at the time the war began. We got our shit pushed in just about everywhere on the ground. Our only contributions were our Navy and the RAF (more on that later.) We were not saved by America, our air force and navy were enough to prevent invasion, and a complete German takeover of Europe would not have changed this.
The Soviets won the war against the Wehrmacht and SS through sheer attrition, and they could have done it without any exterior support.
America did nothing relevant in a ground war against Germany. By the time the U.S. entered the war, Hitler had already lost to the Soviets and their winter. 80% of German casualties occurred on the Eastern front, and adding 20% of it's armed forces would have done nothing.
American lend lease was utterly irrelevant, both to Russia and to the U.K. There's a copypasta circulating of the figures of arms lent to the Soviets by America. It's figures are dwarfed by actual Soviet production - I believe it said the Americans loaned 8,000 Shermans to Russia. The Soviets produced 84,070 T-34s alone, not counting their other thousands of medium tanks and their hundreds of Heavy Tanks. The Americans only developed a heavy tank, the Pershing, at the end of the war and did not lend any. Alongside this, in some cases, the copypasta is factually wrong. It states that the Soviets never developed a heavy bomber, relying on the western bombing campaign. In reality, some Soviet bombers such as the Petlyakov Pe-8 were designed before the war even begun, and first began bombing Berlin in 1941.
The U.S. is solely responsible for the defeat of the Japanese empire. This is solely the fault of the Japanese failing to sink any Carriers in the pearl harbour attacks. Britain did nothing relevant in the pacific. The atomic bomb was not justified, but that doesn't matter in war.

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this breddy much. throw a few leafs in there as well.

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Operation Overlord was never launched to beat Germany; it was launched to stop the Soviets from taking over Europe. It could not have been done without the Americans, and if it hadn't have been launched, all of Europe would be a post-communist shit-hole.
Aside from the above, the only worthwhile contributions Britain and America made to the war was the strategic bombing campaign, annihilating the Luftwaffe and the German industry, speeding up the Soviet Victory considerably.
Italy would have been destroyed by Russia if America had not done it first.

The End.

When Germany invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941, in Operation Barbarossa, the Red Army's ground forces had 303 divisions and 22 separate brigades (6.8 million soldiers), including 166 divisions and 9 brigades (3.2 million soldiers) garrisoned in the western military districts. The Axis forces deployed on the Eastern Front consisted of 181 divisions and 18 brigades (3 million soldiers). Three Fronts, the Northwestern, Western, and Southwestern conducted the defense of the western borders of the USSR. In the first weeks of the Great Patriotic War the Wehrmacht defeated many Red Army units. The Red Army lost millions of men as prisoners and lost much of its pre-war matériel. Stalin increased mobilization, and by 1 August 1941, despite 46 divisions lost in combat, the Red Army's strength was 401 divisions.

Glantz, David M (1998), Stumbling Colossus: The Red Army on the Eve of World War, University Press of Kansas, ISBN 978-0-7006-0879-9

The unprepared Soviet forces suffered much damage in the field because of mediocre officers, partial mobilization, and an incomplete reorganization.[43][page needed] The hasty pre-war forces expansion and the over-promotion of inexperienced officers (owing to the purging of experienced officers) favored the Wehrmacht in combat.[43][page needed] The Axis's numeric superiority rendered the combatants' divisional strength approximately equal.[d] A generation of Soviet commanders (notably Georgy Zhukov) learned from the defeats,[45] and Soviet victories in the Battle of Moscow, at Stalingrad, Kursk and later in Operation Bagration proved decisive.

War was one by Russian blood and American industry, not just one or the other. Russians sacrificed the most men and killed the most Germans, and did most of the legwork on the ground, but they wouldn't have been able to do that if it weren't for all the American industrial assistance. Russians got completely curbstomped in 1941, they would have been knocked out of the game if it weren't for the yanks.

I am sorry but you do not know your dinosaurs.The ussr is clearly Compsognathus

Where are we cunt

>The Soviets won the war against the Wehrmacht and SS through sheer attrition,

Factually wrong, not a lie either.

> and they could have done it without any exterior support.

Absolute BS, Soviets were pretty desperate for outside help, specifically that Allies made attacks to draw out potential reinforcements to the Eastern front. Without, D-Day, Salerno, Sicily, El-Alamein etc, land-lease...soviet victory was unthinkable.

We always learned you got your ass blitzkrieged

>blatant teen spotted
>KYS
the irony

The sun never sets on the Eternal Anglo.

where is canada?
we assaulted the beach on d-day too

they smashed the british and the americans in the pacific continually until they nearly landed in Australia. The first defeat for the Japs in the pacific was at the hand of Australian conscripts.I would rather fight on the western front thats for fucking sure, pacific was a bloodbath.

Real help from USA only started coming around 42-43 when it became obvious blitzkrieg failed and it won't be a waste of money. USSR was successfully holding nazis alone at first.

> who came to help

ANZACS did, even when we were under immediate threat of being invaded ourselves.

>bitching about Operation Paperclip

>mfw a commie thinks this makes him a winner

congrats, you won the privilege of living under nearly 50 years of communist rule before collapsing completely and it only cost you 25+ million lives and a fucking shitload of resources

I guess this is a big win from the perspective of a masochist

Their british and french allies told them to slow down mobilization and that help is coming ASAP. Then they dindu nothing and laughed about poland believing white people would actually fight for it.

Was going to post this.

The fuck are you talking about?

The Russians made
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_combat_vehicle_production_during_World_War_II
106,025

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_armored_fighting_vehicle_production_during_World_War_II
88,816

SO YEAH TOTALLY.

Also the really funny thing

Heavy Tanks:
USSR - 13,831
USA - 2,202

The Russian made more KV-1 and IS2 then Americans did Heavy Tanks combined.

we made them nothing. they would've salted the earth on the west coast if we had let them

We keep providing Wikipedia papges at least. You keep shilling your opinions like it's law.

Now it's your time to prove us wrong.