>he is not as talented as messi
>he just works hard
>he is just a poacher
>he just taps in penalties
>not even top 10 of all time
Why are missifags so insecure they need to deny the talent of Ronaldo? Why do they conveniently forget he was a better dribbler@customers Missi could ever dream to be?
>(you)
honestly, it is a very sad state of things. Bandwagoning multiple balloon doors Messi just to be cucked by the goat few years down the road. I seriously fear for their mental health if CR adds another CL/BO to his collection, I can't think of any delusion helping them cope tbf
you now remember Ronaldo
Ronaldo is the Kobe Bryant of Football. He's a really good player that people and the media try to pretend is an all time great
huffing upside down does weird things to your brain m8
magyar cigany
Does the Ballon D'or even mean anything anymore?
It means
>solely looking at stats except for the ones we don't like Penaldo wins lol
I don't think it ever did.
yes it is awarded to the best player
best is defined by missifags to be the most talented whatever they mean by this, while the rest of the world means the best performances weighted against the importance and difficulty of the games averaged for the year
Why are you replying to someone who obviously doesn't give a fuck about your childish ass retarded argument? Messi v Ronaldo is the kindergarden level of football conversations
based neighbour
how will fraudssi soybois ever recover?
trying to help him, being in denial for too long will wreck havoc on his mental health
only missifags try to downplay this argument
>it was clear years ago who is the better footballer
>messi is a genius, ronaldo is a hard worker
>it is the kindergarten level of football conversations
tbf anyone with half a brain should reevaluate this position in the light of what ronaldo achieved in the last couple of years and how missi failed to deliver
>even in the 6-1 psg comeback all missi managed to do was not miss his penalty
ajajajaja but he was GOAT against ecuador Z team paid off to let him qualify
Messi is a soyboy autist who lucked out with insane skill while Ronaldo from day 1 strived to be the best there ever was while also being skilled but not quite as skilled as the autist, and has surpassed in individual awards through hard work and determination and going from trying to be the best to knowing you're the best
tl;dr TSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUU
fucking kill yourself
sage
I ain't no fanboy but I understand why Ronaldo won it, it doesn't change the fact that Messi is a better player. Of course Ronaldo is great, but Messi is in the GOAT discussion
counter-sage
Barcelona were winning and that's just the 48th minute
Ronaldo (a penalties """""specialist""""") missed a penalty against Valencia in the last game of the season a few years ago (not 10 years ago like in your webm) that costed them the league
>bring up missed penalty as a fraudssi fangirl
el ol mao my fucking sides I can't find em
men don't care about either of them. it's a team sport, faggot
Mate, I don't give a shit about none of them, they play in Europe
Just saying you are retarded, the only relevant penalty missed by Messi was in the last Copa America final, but still, he got the first one and Vidal had already missed his, so we actually didn't lose because of Messi
When have you ever watched Cristiano and thought to yourself 'wow, this guy is just so far ahead of everyone else, he might just be the best ever'
And be honest
>it didn't even matter that he missed his penalty
I'll just post a relevant reaction image at your butthurt
never tbqh, didn't really happen for FRAUDSSI/MISSI/MESSHIT either so I don't get the big deal about this rivalry. fucking muller is better than them
Believe it or not, we aren't all bandwagoners of some European club like yourself, I couldn't care less about Barcelona losing
I only bandwagon one team and it sure as shit isn't a laliga one
chelski is even worse, bro
well then I guess I'll just go ahead and bandwagon barcelona since they bought the refs for the past 15 years innit?
you are still a bandwagoner, I watch european football because it has a higher level than our league, but I don't support any of them
so what?
That you blindly defend or attack players, I'm objecitve
no you aren't missi is argie so you obviously have bias. if you wanted to pursue this line you should have claimed you were a first gen immigrant or proxy
Almost every EF in the CL he absolutely owned the pitch and also smashing Spanish farmers almost every weekend
based australoid even he knows the soccer better than the eternal anglo
It's subjective. For me, Messi is fun to watch. CR7 isn't as fun. So it's simple. You can give Ronaldo every balon d'or, every golden boot, every trophy, if the two were playing at the same time in different games, i'm watching Messi, not Ronaldo.
did you watch messi when ronaldo was playing juventus in the CL final last year? :3
...
>Win an Euro
>Doesnt even play in the final
What did Ronaldo mean by this?
autism, the thread
obviously not
but if you give me unlimited money and tell me to build a team, Messi is the first player i'm taking.
if i were building a global advertising/branding campaign i'd probably do a deal with ronaldo first.
wow bro das rayciss ernesto over there is entitled to his opinions
well if I had unlimited money I'd probably ban soccer worldwide and fund texas secession just so I can roleplay as a lone ranger
>Gypsies
You aren't even considered real people by the rest of the citizens on your continent, why make fun of Ernesto and Pedro hopping borders to do menial labor when you guys are the menial laborforce of Europe?
chill down ernesto I'm sure ICE is gonna lower the heat for the rest of the year. and that's another thing you guys have in common with gypsies, they hate working :3
>he can't have an opinion because of where he was born
i see euros say dumb shit about this sport all the time and no one says "flag"
that's because the >tf >tp meme was made with USA in mind. you shouldn't take it to heart tho, this is, after all, Sup Forums
>That flag
But user... you're a gypsy, it's a side effect at birth that comes with being romanian.
good bantz ernesto
>comeback
kek, if anything is more important to messi's legacy than growth hormones, that is is the constant refball uefalona gets
based neighbour with the truth bombs
cucking saf's poonited with sporting. He has been delivering from day one
Kobe is an all time great though
>be substituted in the final
>mutts claim you did not even play
please stick to kneelnogging
yeah, but he's not even top 10 all time, meanwhile Messi is LeBron and Pele is the MJ of football.
But Kobe is top 5, Hiro.
He's literally better than LeBron.
Fucking non Americans don't talk to me about basketball.
imagine ronaldo is fucking pissed (((uefa))) let's a roided manlet play the game. he should be sitting on 10 BOs and a couple of extra ligas and CLs if missi an farcelona were competing on equal footing. Then autist come and spewing this talent bullshit DESPITE ronaldo being twice the player is really insult to injury
>shoot 30% in the field man
>better than lebron
funny I read that greentext and totally agreed with it and only then realized you were being disparaging
they don’t care about us
why argue about them
then please enlighten why do you think missi is more talented than ronaldo? Because their performances on the pitch actually show the opposite. The manlet running on his stumpy legs is easier on your eye perhaps?
truth bomb desu
>81 points
>60 point farewell
Field percentage is a meme and so is LeBron.
Anyone who's elite today could score 60+ if they shot the ball every possession like Kobe did
iz fun
Will never understand how anyone could support Ronaldo. Ever. He's a colossal faggot and more of a primadonna bitch than any woman soccer player out there. Then you have Messi who puts his head down and does his job. Funny thing is, this wouldn't even be a conversation if Ronaldo just focused on his job too, instead of spending most matchdays making sure his hair is perfectly gelled and pouting when his teammates score.
not your fault pal, mutt media is just too good @ brainwashing. We adults have no problem separating the public image of a player and his performances and achievements
remind me who's the one covered in hideous tattoos again
It's clear to see for anyone who has played a bit off football and understands the game that Ronaldo is more the beneficiary of his environment than Messi who can initiate play from anywhere and any circumstance. Ronaldo always needs special conditions to thrive. He was truly great for the end of his Man Utd tenure and for the first couple of years at Real, but he has declined drastically. Don't get me wrong, he is still class and his little renaissance to clinch the CL for Real last year was brilliant and entitles him to this years' Ballon D'Or - but he's still not even in Messi's league when you compare their careers as a body of work.
>It's clear to see for anyone who has played a bit off football and understands the game that Ronaldo is more the beneficiary of his environment
kek, if you played more than a bit of football, you realize Ronaldo did it with at least 3 teams, while Messi best performance was usually on team refballona and constantly failed with argentina, especially in the biggest moments.
But cr depends on his environment suuure. Tell me more about talent and innate abilities
>won trophies with Gago, Royston Drenthe, and Anderson Oliveira
>needs special conditions to thrive.
all we need for a typical ronaldo thread is the >leaf
this dessu doesn't feel right without leafy dropping the bombz
>Did he had a better year than Messi? Yes
>Is he top 10 all time? Yes
>Is he better than Messi? No and each year it becomes more obvious
Apart from his impressive renaissance in the latter rounds of last years' CL, Ronaldo has offered little compared to his previous standards. He scores when the team's aleady winning. He offers very little in general play. When things are going well he capitalises. He was quiet during Portugal's Euro win, not exactly a driving force.
He used to be a match winner independent of his envrionment, but not for a few years now.
Messi on the other hand can still grip any given match and pull out a victory when the chips are down and has always had that in a greater capacity than Ronaldo. The Argentina claim is bullshit - he's had a great international career, won many tougher games than Ronaldo has ever had to on his own.
Oh were those the only players Ronaldo had help from?
I can pick out a few scrubs from any of Messi's teams as well. Silly argument.
>apart from when Ronaldo is in god mode, he is not that good
are you for real?
ronaldo single handedly get portugal out of the group at the euros and won more with Gago than Messi
Messi went messing in at least 3 finals and he is a flat track bully nowadays get off your messi glasses l8d. His international career is SHIT and argentina would have probably won more if they don't have to accommodate the little autist
>and argentina would have probably won more if they don't have to accommodate the little autist
nobody believes me when I say that but it will become apparent when he finally fucks off and they win a copa or smth immediately after
and mesSHITTERS will STILL somehow find a way to give him credit. lol
There's only so much one man can do. Messi was great, if not god-like, to get his team to a WC final. At the end of the day it's still 11 men against 11 men. Neither player is going to be amazing every game. I can point out plenty of Ronaldo examples too. My observation is simply that Messi generally makes more meaningful contributions i.e scoring when his team actually needs a goal and isn't already 2-0 up on a more regular basis and does far more in terms of general play.
it's like a religion, maybe more of a cult. Just look at AS Roma, they loved sucking Totti's cock more than winning.
Messi's rage quit could have been a blessing in disguise.
As much as I believe Messi is the superior player, this is a good point. Although it's unclear to me how much of this is down to Messi/his coaches demanding a system being built around him and how much is down to players like Aguero and Di Maria shirking responsibility. It's not like Messi's the type of player who's afraid of playing in a team-mate or would take the huff if they scored.
everyone who unironically thinks ronaldo is better than messi is:
>a third world subhuman
>a real/manu fan
>all 3
I've never seen any evidence in the contrary
the hungarian guy is neither
>messi does nothing and team isn't efficient either
>higuains fault lolmao
>his team does smth but he doesn't
>wow messi carried them GOAT
indoctrinated cult it is
Correct. There's just one example and I've never seen Ronaldo do anything as impressive as that in a big match. Messi has a catalogue.
I bet he's conditioned to be a Real fan because of Puskas.
doubt
Yep.
If they removed two yard tap ins from his goal count he'd have scored about the same as Chris Armstrong.
It doesn't help that he's insanely unlikeable.
But he clearly isn't half the player Messi is.
>goals don't count because I said so
Why do you need to fight?
both are great. period.
this holy shit lol
A lot of autism/dick sucking going on here kek.
I'm on your side, but there's nothing wrong with tap-ins. Ronaldo has historically shown great desire and intelligence of running to be on the end of those moves, but it goes back to my previous argument that he has for a good few years now required certain conditions to thrive. Now that his pace is diminishing, he is struggling badly and he's been hitting the weights or doing crossfit so much that his mechanics are all fucked up. Nothing like the fluidity he had at Man U when he could ghost past players.
Are you going to claim Marius Lacatus is the best player of all time then?
We're talking Messi or Ronaldo. In the GOAT type discussions tap ins don't count. A tap in is a result of team work. Team work =/= individual brilliance.
>being able to fit in a team and shooting balls without missing isn't good
>lmao
das why u lost to iceland
he shouldn't be first choice when aguero, icardi, higuain etc. are available
great ad hominem, agreed
literally runs in a straight line and scores at the near post against who: the opponent.
Are you suggesting Icardi, Higuain and Aguero are better than Messi?
I'm suggesting more and more evidence showing the argentine NT should not be built around messi
Messi is fucking shit since Xavi left
/thread.
stick to rugby mate
We are not, we recognize him as one of the greatest footballers of all time. Most of the time is just baiting and shitposting. Ronaldofags do the same. It's all for the memes.